CornerBoy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:57 am
if pizza boy was lying about everything then ffuck me.
I really thought he knew a lot of the inner workings of W side and L crew in the BX
What did he specifically lie about?
Cheech would probably know if he was a bullshitter or not better than anyone based on what I've read on here
Cheech= any insight? Thanks!
Its not really black and white. Its like anything else there were some truths and some not. I dont really wanna get into it. There were a few years where we talked every day. One day maybe ill write about it but for now why say anything? He dont post anymore and cant defend himself.
CornerBoy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:57 am
if pizza boy was lying about everything then ffuck me.
I really thought he knew a lot of the inner workings of W side and L crew in the BX
What did he specifically lie about?
Cheech would probably know if he was a bullshitter or not better than anyone based on what I've read on here
Cheech= any insight? Thanks!
I don't think he was lying about everything, and may not have been lying at all, at the time. He may have just been repeating info as how he, a self admitted civilian, had heard it. Or repeating info as how he saw it, but he was obviously not seeing everything if he's not involved. He did have some random Bronx and East Harlem tidbits that were interesting , and I don't remember him taking as much of a hard line stance on things as some others here may. But, I wasn't reading or posting from like 2013 to 2017 so I may have missed some of that.
If he was a Bronx guy...10 years ago when he was posting about the Bronx Luccheses having the power, and the Brooklyn guys not having any juice, that may have been what it seemed like on the surface for guys in those neighborhoods who are just regular guys and hear things around. There wouldn't have been any other reason for a blue collar Bronx guy who might live on the same block as a captain or something, to suspect otherwise. He may also have known of people like Crea Junior and others who he said were not involved, way back when they actually weren't involved - like before they were made or before they were being talked about as players. Especially if those guys weren't out on front street acting like gangsters for everyone to see.
I don't know - I don't think he came on here to make shit up, he just had info on specific people that was shown to be incorrect later on. He could have also downplayed certain people's status for personal reasons, whatever those may be. Not sure why or what the point of that would be...to prevent like 30 people in some random corner of the internet from talking about people? Who knows.
I didn't speak with him directly a ton, but had some back and forth DMs a long time ago, and he seemed like a great guy. Basically a middle aged neighborhood guy who works in an industry that would put him a little closer to certain people, versus the average poster on here. Plus living around a lot of them. He was also supposedly related by blood to a Westside old timer that passed away a long time ago, but not sure if that is true (don't really care either way)
Interestingly thats a very good way to put it. Maybe one day ill be more specific. But you got it close, bro.
Regarding Crea. He always said Crea was the real power then JP kinda said the same thing so i dont think you can kill him for that.
He 100% knew things you cant read in books. And not just mob stuff. Neighborhood stuff.
Maybe ill put something in the graveyard so not everyone can see it later in the week. Idk
I read his posts so many times. He was adamant that Vic had no power, but that wasn't even remotely true. He had no reason to protect that guy and I don't believe he wanted to protect guys because he had no problem saying Crea was the true power and he seemed to have no problem shining a light on the Bronx guys in general. Why? He was definitely from the neighborhood, but that is as far as his credibility went with me. There was something very off with him. Whenever you meet someone who is that good with words and THAT personable, one or two alarm bells should go off.
Allie Boy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:24 am
I read his posts so many times. He was adamant that Vic had no power, but that wasn't even remotely true. He had no reason to protect that guy and I don't believe he wanted to protect guys because he had no problem saying Crea was the true power and he seemed to have no problem shining a light on the Bronx guys in general. Why? He was definitely from the neighborhood, but that is as far as his credibility went with me. There was something very off with him. Whenever you meet someone who is that good with words and THAT personable, one or two alarm bells should go off.
Allie Boy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:24 am
I read his posts so many times. He was adamant that Vic had no power, but that wasn't even remotely true. He had no reason to protect that guy and I don't believe he wanted to protect guys because he had no problem saying Crea was the true power and he seemed to have no problem shining a light on the Bronx guys in general. Why? He was definitely from the neighborhood, but that is as far as his credibility went with me. There was something very off with him. Whenever you meet someone who is that good with words and THAT personable, one or two alarm bells should go off.
What might be a surprise to some, I always got along with pizzaboy. Never had a problem believing he was "from the neighborhood." That, in itself, isn't an issue. However, as pointed out above, he got himself into trouble when he went beyond what he actually knew. That's always been where local guys get themselves into trouble. For pizzaboy, not just Crea and Amuso (the latter still being very much the boss) but some will recall he also claimed Bellomo pretty much no longer involved in the mob life, i.e. more or less retired and closing in on 100% legitimate. Later on, we find out he's the boss.
Allie Boy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:24 am
I read his posts so many times. He was adamant that Vic had no power, but that wasn't even remotely true. He had no reason to protect that guy and I don't believe he wanted to protect guys because he had no problem saying Crea was the true power and he seemed to have no problem shining a light on the Bronx guys in general. Why? He was definitely from the neighborhood, but that is as far as his credibility went with me. There was something very off with him. Whenever you meet someone who is that good with words and THAT personable, one or two alarm bells should go off.
getting warm lol
You should write about it in the graveyard because I am 100% sure there are other people here who would echo what you have to say. I agree that he told a lot of truths too. The people who are good at being deceptive will use the truth as much as they can to gain trust. He ran with that ball for a much longer time than I expected.
The Barney being boss thing - I think he mentioed he was trying to downplay his role to protect him like newera mentioned in his previous post, like newera said I'm not sure what the point of doing that was - he would allude to others being heavyweights/ heaviliy involved in that life.
I think he was a nice guy that loved being this street guy guru on GangsterBB and it caught up with him.
Skinny was the best "street guy" on GBB in my opinion, not sure if that guy ended up being a fraud too
moneyman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:34 am
The Barney being boss thing - I think he mentioed he was trying to downplay his role to protect him like newera mentioned in his previous post, like newera said I'm not sure what the point of doing that was - he would allude to others being heavyweights/ heaviliy involved in that life.
I think he was a nice guy that loved being this street guy guru on GangsterBB and it caught up with him.
Skinny was the best "street guy" on GBB in my opinion, not sure if that guy ended up being a fraud too
i knew skinny. young kid in college down south. his father was around the jersey lucheses. for sure, for sure.
if some of the older posters remember a really good poster was sitonmyface aka gamms. he was johnny gammarano's cousin hence the name gamms but he changed it or vice versa.
he owned liquor stores in arizona but had a lot of good info on brooklyn @ghonjotti would like. he had talked alot of some of the colombos. if anyones bored one day go read his posts at gbb. theyre very good and insightful.
Allie Boy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:24 am
I read his posts so many times. He was adamant that Vic had no power, but that wasn't even remotely true. He had no reason to protect that guy and I don't believe he wanted to protect guys because he had no problem saying Crea was the true power and he seemed to have no problem shining a light on the Bronx guys in general. Why? He was definitely from the neighborhood, but that is as far as his credibility went with me. There was something very off with him. Whenever you meet someone who is that good with words and THAT personable, one or two alarm bells should go off.
getting warm lol
You should write about it in the graveyard because I am 100% sure there are other people here who would echo what you have to say. I agree that he told a lot of truths too. The people who are good at being deceptive will use the truth as much as they can to gain trust. He ran with that ball for a much longer time than I expected.
moneyman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:34 am
The Barney being boss thing - I think he mentioed he was trying to downplay his role to protect him like newera mentioned in his previous post, like newera said I'm not sure what the point of doing that was - he would allude to others being heavyweights/ heaviliy involved in that life.
I think he was a nice guy that loved being this street guy guru on GangsterBB and it caught up with him.
Skinny was the best "street guy" on GBB in my opinion, not sure if that guy ended up being a fraud too
He would say different things to different posters all the time. When someone confronted him about it, he always had an answer. He was nice to most people, but there were people who got burned because of their interactions with him. I wonder if anyone visited him in Delray or wherever his place in Florida supposedly was lol
moneyman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:34 am
The Barney being boss thing - I think he mentioed he was trying to downplay his role to protect him like newera mentioned in his previous post, like newera said I'm not sure what the point of doing that was - he would allude to others being heavyweights/ heaviliy involved in that life.
I think he was a nice guy that loved being this street guy guru on GangsterBB and it caught up with him.
Skinny was the best "street guy" on GBB in my opinion, not sure if that guy ended up being a fraud too
He would say different things to different posters all the time. When someone confronted him about it, he always had an answer. He was nice to most people, but there were people who got burned because of their interactions with him. I wonder if anyone visited him in Delray or wherever his place in Florida supposedly was lol
youre even warmer now! allie boy gets it...delray lol...youre on it
moneyman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:34 am
The Barney being boss thing - I think he mentioed he was trying to downplay his role to protect him like newera mentioned in his previous post, like newera said I'm not sure what the point of doing that was - he would allude to others being heavyweights/ heaviliy involved in that life.
I think he was a nice guy that loved being this street guy guru on GangsterBB and it caught up with him.
Skinny was the best "street guy" on GBB in my opinion, not sure if that guy ended up being a fraud too
He would say different things to different posters all the time. When someone confronted him about it, he always had an answer. He was nice to most people, but there were people who got burned because of their interactions with him. I wonder if anyone visited him in Delray or wherever his place in Florida supposedly was lol
youre even warmer now! allie boy gets it...delray lol...youre on it
no one was ever gonna meet him in delray...that was just something to keep the ploy going....but im going to far now
