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Pmac2 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:06 am On Crea I think he got railroaded on the meldish murder charge. He didn't order it he had nothing to gain from it. He probably didn't even want it to happen. That guy got porked for being the underboss that's it. The judge was like maybe he knew about it and didn't stop it or whatever. Is that book the lady wrote still around a link. I would like to read it. I thought it was free. The one about the Madonna crea trial
Surely if Matty ordered it, he would have informed his Underboss. He must have had knowledge about it.
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:47 am
Pmac2 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:06 am On Crea I think he got railroaded on the meldish murder charge. He didn't order it he had nothing to gain from it. He probably didn't even want it to happen. That guy got porked for being the underboss that's it. The judge was like maybe he knew about it and didn't stop it or whatever. Is that book the lady wrote still around a link. I would like to read it. I thought it was free. The one about the Madonna crea trial
Surely if Matty ordered it, he would have informed his Underboss. He must have had knowledge about it.
The book is available for free here https://guiltfortheguiltless.com/
Crea was railroaded by any standard you want to measure it and you haven't heard a complaint or a peep out of him yet. You compare him to Tommy G complaints once he was inside prison. Stevie Crea was mentally prepared for the life like no other. And he raised his son the same way. His son gets what, over a dozen years with no priors and has a wife and kids and not much out of him either. Whoever Stevie crea was under did it the right way.
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But Pennisi says Crea Jr wasn’t cut out for the life
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AntComello wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:35 pm But Pennisi says Crea Jr wasn’t cut out for the life
Pennisi has no reason to be biased with that opinion.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:26 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:47 am
Pmac2 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:06 am On Crea I think he got railroaded on the meldish murder charge. He didn't order it he had nothing to gain from it. He probably didn't even want it to happen. That guy got porked for being the underboss that's it. The judge was like maybe he knew about it and didn't stop it or whatever. Is that book the lady wrote still around a link. I would like to read it. I thought it was free. The one about the Madonna crea trial
Surely if Matty ordered it, he would have informed his Underboss. He must have had knowledge about it.
The book is available for free here https://guiltfortheguiltless.com/
Crea was railroaded by any standard you want to measure it and you haven't heard a complaint or a peep out of him yet. You compare him to Tommy G complaints once he was inside prison. Stevie Crea was mentally prepared for the life like no other. And he raised his son the same way. His son gets what, over a dozen years with no priors and has a wife and kids and not much out of him either. Whoever Stevie crea was under did it the right way.
That’s a good point. Who did he come up under?
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:47 am
Pmac2 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:06 am On Crea I think he got railroaded on the meldish murder charge. He didn't order it he had nothing to gain from it. He probably didn't even want it to happen. That guy got porked for being the underboss that's it. The judge was like maybe he knew about it and didn't stop it or whatever. Is that book the lady wrote still around a link. I would like to read it. I thought it was free. The one about the Madonna crea trial
Surely if Matty ordered it, he would have informed his Underboss. He must have had knowledge about it.
The book is available for free here https://guiltfortheguiltless.com/
If anyone is going to read that story, they also need to read the retraction made in August regarding Pennisi which was posted on this board but also is available here. The retraction is not on the website because "the lady" that wrote the story doesn't own the website and her requests to have the retraction placed on the website have been refused. All of that is explained in the videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR2JHEFYKBU

https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtop ... retraction
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:51 pm
AntComello wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:35 pm But Pennisi says Crea Jr wasn’t cut out for the life
Pennisi has no reason to be biased with that opinion.
With the one tiny caveat that John rolled and Jnr didn't.

Tells you all you need to know.
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Little_Al1991 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:51 pm
AntComello wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:35 pm But Pennisi says Crea Jr wasn’t cut out for the life
Pennisi has no reason to be biased with that opinion.
How do you know?
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TommyGambino wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:07 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:51 pm
AntComello wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:35 pm But Pennisi says Crea Jr wasn’t cut out for the life
Pennisi has no reason to be biased with that opinion.
How do you know?
But if Crea Jr ever hit on one of John’s girls (which we will never know) then he’s 100% not cut out for the life. 😂😂 like I’ve said before I appreciate the insight we get from Pennisi and I do think he tells the truth. It’s just the low blows and cheap shots he throws out about certain guys that make him sound so bitter.
That’s the guy, Adriana. My Uncle Tony. The guy I’m going to hell for.
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if pizza boy was lying about everything then ffuck me.

I really thought he knew a lot of the inner workings of W side and L crew in the BX

What did he specifically lie about?

Cheech would probably know if he was a bullshitter or not better than anyone based on what I've read on here

Cheech= any insight? Thanks!
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:08 am

He's putting these guys, who are still in the life, lives in jeopardy. NOT a small thing.
I totally get what you're saying - but I think anyone who'd be a danger to the guys that Pennisi has alluded to being CIs probably look at Pennisi and all of the Youtube shit as a total clown show. That probably even goes for the guys that Pennisi has mentioned themselves. At the end of the day, he cooperated - so these guys probably chalk up everything he says as total bullshit. Even if they found him trustworthy or a solid guy way back when, him being a rat basically erases that - they can say "he flipped, he's a liar, can't believe anything he says", etc... Pennisi himself even has said in the past that was the attitude those guys have toward him and other cooperators. Just null-and-voids everything that person was, once they cooperate.

If it were a journalist (looking at Larry McShane...), a defense lawyer, prosecutor, even a civilian peripherally connected/related to some of those guys - that'd probably get their wheels spinning a lot more. With Pennisi, even if it's not true, he's always going to have an axe to grind in their eyes.
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CornerBoy wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:57 am if pizza boy was lying about everything then ffuck me.

I really thought he knew a lot of the inner workings of W side and L crew in the BX

What did he specifically lie about?

Cheech would probably know if he was a bullshitter or not better than anyone based on what I've read on here

Cheech= any insight? Thanks!
I don't think he was lying about everything, and may not have been lying at all, at the time. He may have just been repeating info as how he, a self admitted civilian, had heard it. Or repeating info as how he saw it, but he was obviously not seeing everything if he's not involved. He did have some random Bronx and East Harlem tidbits that were interesting , and I don't remember him taking as much of a hard line stance on things as some others here may. But, I wasn't reading or posting from like 2013 to 2017 so I may have missed some of that.

If he was a Bronx guy...10 years ago when he was posting about the Bronx Luccheses having the power, and the Brooklyn guys not having any juice, that may have been what it seemed like on the surface for guys in those neighborhoods who are just regular guys and hear things around. There wouldn't have been any other reason for a blue collar Bronx guy who might live on the same block as a captain or something, to suspect otherwise. He may also have known of people like Crea Junior and others who he said were not involved, way back when they actually weren't involved - like before they were made or before they were being talked about as players. Especially if those guys weren't out on front street acting like gangsters for everyone to see.

I don't know - I don't think he came on here to make shit up, he just had info on specific people that was shown to be incorrect later on. He could have also downplayed certain people's status for personal reasons, whatever those may be. Not sure why or what the point of that would be...to prevent like 30 people in some random corner of the internet from talking about people? Who knows.

I didn't speak with him directly a ton, but had some back and forth DMs a long time ago, and he seemed like a great guy. Basically a middle aged neighborhood guy who works in an industry that would put him a little closer to certain people, versus the average poster on here. Plus living around a lot of them. He was also supposedly related by blood to a Westside old timer that passed away a long time ago, but not sure if that is true (don't really care either way)
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I hardly ever posted when he was around, but that guy was wrong about so many important things that you'd have to be blind to still consider him a credible source. In hindsight, he came off as someone who wanted to seem important in the eyes of others. He seemed to really get off on sharing these little tidbits of "information" that made people wonder if he was "in the know". He clearly wasn't. I do remember thinking at the time how likable he sounded in his posts and that he was probably a great guy. He just had a way with words like he was a smooth car salesman or something. That should've been a red flag right there lol
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AntComello wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:31 am
TommyGambino wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:07 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:51 pm
AntComello wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:35 pm But Pennisi says Crea Jr wasn’t cut out for the life
Pennisi has no reason to be biased with that opinion.
How do you know?
But if Crea Jr ever hit on one of John’s girls (which we will never know) then he’s 100% not cut out for the life. 😂😂 like I’ve said before I appreciate the insight we get from Pennisi and I do think he tells the truth. It’s just the low blows and cheap shots he throws out about certain guys that make him sound so bitter.
He's stupid too, Pennisi.
At the end of the last episode he says "[if some young guy or associate was looking to join the mob, what would I say?]"
He says "I have one message for you," "Don't do it."
That is the words of wisdoms he departs with is don't do it.
Never very convincing and three words is not really a message just and idiot response to a question no one asked you...
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TommyGambino wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:27 pm
Pmac2 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:33 pm Where did this cefulo Campos one come from. The guys a capo and cefulos his boss? Interesting story
Pizza boy. I liked him but that was a weird lie
You got a link?
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