Steve Crea

[Bruno187]

Crea became Underboss in 1993 and then became the Acting Boss in 1998, after DeFede’s conviction.
Crea was into labor racketeering, he had a lot of money.
According to Pennisi, Crea was also seen as the leader of the Lucchese Family by members, even though Matty was the Acting Boss but Vic put him in their because he wanted someone who he could control.
Stevie is well respected and was even offered the opportunity to become the Acting Boss, if he beat his 2017 case.The old Brooklyn faction met with him and told him that if he beat his case, he would become the Acting Boss.

Thanks Al and Bruno - so he was an underboss more or less for 30 yrs?

Was he on street for d'arco and defede?

Did he ever try to force Vic and the BK mofuckas out bring the base to bronx?

Appears that he wields or wielded lol a lot of pwr.

So Crea had to take orders from madonna who sounds like a fucking asshole?

That pennisi claim seems nebulous.....

I think that the charts the public has access to are only fifty perccent as accurate as we think

Crea was viewed as potential Boss material for quite a while in the 90's and 2000's after all the craziness of Casso ....the power base WAS the Bronx for quite a while with DiNapoli and Crea being a big part of why that was. As someone else mentioned, the winds are very fickle.
Crea never took orders from Madonna.....Madonna didn't even get straightened out until relatively late in life after he got home from doing that long bid. Crea didn't have the type of hitters around him that the Bklyn guys did so he had no choice but to take a step back after they made the move on his power. Honestly I don't even know why he would give a shit at that point after having about a 30 year run of making serious money and surviving the Vic and Gas era.

[Wiseguy]

What's funny is that Gigante not only chiseled that insanely valuable house out of Levy, but indirectly from people like Tommy James and the Shondells and other artists that Levy completely stiffed and never paid. So in a way, generations of Chin's family have been able to live well off of money stolen from legendary artists lol. Definitely blows a hole in the "they only hurt eachother" bullshit mob mythos - unless Tommy James actually enjoys playing Casinos in bumfuck USA randomly throughout the year at the age of 75

You Jew cocksucker, you buy those two pieces of property or I'll bury you.

[Ravens410]

Where’s pizzaboy

[Little_Al1991]

Crea became Underboss in 1993 and then became the Acting Boss in 1998, after DeFede’s conviction.
Crea was into labor racketeering, he had a lot of money.
According to Pennisi, Crea was also seen as the leader of the Lucchese Family by members, even though Matty was the Acting Boss but Vic put him in their because he wanted someone who he could control.
Stevie is well respected and was even offered the opportunity to become the Acting Boss, if he beat his 2017 case.The old Brooklyn faction met with him and told him that if he beat his case, he would become the Acting Boss.

Thanks Al and Bruno - so he was an underboss more or less for 30 yrs?

Was he on street for d'arco and defede?

Did he ever try to force Vic and the BK mofuckas out bring the base to bronx?

Appears that he wields or wielded lol a lot of pwr.

So Crea had to take orders from madonna who sounds like a fucking asshole?

That pennisi claim seems nebulous.....

I think that the charts the public has access to are only fifty perccent as accurate as we think

Yes, he held the Underboss position since 1993.Vic promoted Crea to the Acting Consigliere position in 1990 when he went on the run which is also the time that D’Arco received a promotion along with Bowat Baratta who became the Acting Underboss.
He didn’t force a move but did try and get the power back to the Bronx after becoming Underboss in 1993, which led to George Zappola and some others, attempt to kill Crea on a “sneak hit”
Matty was the Acting Boss but Crea was viewed as the leader by guys on the street.Crea was taking orders from Matty because he had to.It seems like they got along well because they were running the family from 2009 until Madonna’s next incarceration which took place in 2014/15 for that 2007 gambling case in Jersey.
Crea was well respected and did wield a lot of power.

[Little_Al1991]

Where’s pizzaboy

PB hasn’t said anything about the transition from Bronx to Brooklyn…
He was overrated and extremely biased, that’s not me taking a shot at him
He ridiculously claimed that had Vic and Gas stayed on the street for another couple of years, that the Genovese Family would have backed the Lucchese Bronx Faction in taking both of them out.

[Little_Al1991]

Crea became Underboss in 1993 and then became the Acting Boss in 1998, after DeFede’s conviction.
Crea was into labor racketeering, he had a lot of money.
According to Pennisi, Crea was also seen as the leader of the Lucchese Family by members, even though Matty was the Acting Boss but Vic put him in their because he wanted someone who he could control.
Stevie is well respected and was even offered the opportunity to become the Acting Boss, if he beat his 2017 case.The old Brooklyn faction met with him and told him that if he beat his case, he would become the Acting Boss.

Thanks Al and Bruno - so he was an underboss more or less for 30 yrs?

Was he on street for d'arco and defede?

Did he ever try to force Vic and the BK mofuckas out bring the base to bronx?

Appears that he wields or wielded lol a lot of pwr.

So Crea had to take orders from madonna who sounds like a fucking asshole?

That pennisi claim seems nebulous.....

I think that the charts the public has access to are only fifty perccent as accurate as we think

Crea was viewed as potential Boss material for quite a while in the 90's and 2000's after all the craziness of Casso ....the power base WAS the Bronx for quite a while with DiNapoli and Crea being a big part of why that was. As someone else mentioned, the winds are very fickle.
Crea never took orders from Madonna.....Madonna didn't even get straightened out until relatively late in life after he got home from doing that long bid. Crea didn't have the type of hitters around him that the Bklyn guys did so he had no choice but to take a step back after they made the move on his power. Honestly I don't even know why he would give a shit at that point after having about a 30 year run of making serious money and surviving the Vic and Gas era.

Pennisi said that Crea stepped aside because “Steve is Cosa Nostra” he was just abiding by what the official boss said
Crea’s supervised release ended in 2009 and he rejoined the admin.In that same year, Matty was the Acting Boss so he would have had to take orders from Matty.

[Little_Al1991]

This article https://www.cosanostranews.com/2020/09/ ... their.html is of interest to this discussion. I’ve highlighted the bits about Steven Crea in which Pennisi is speaking.

"Stevie was very respected. Matty had shortcomings. We looked at Stevie as the boss. Matty was not. Matty was a junk dealer put in the acting slot by Vic because Vic wanted someone that he could control in the position."

"Matty was very loud and boisterous, and he got a little greedy. He's a nice guy, 100 percent for the life. I respected him but didn't see him as boss material. We looked to Stevie as our guy. Unofficially he was our guy." (As for Crea's capo son's standing in the Luchese family, Pennisi said, "Stevie Jr is not meant for the life.")

When the transition happened - Crea was called to a meeting, “Everyone respected Stevie—who showed up alone at the meeting with Patty, Mike, Georgie Neck, Franky Bones (aka Frank Papagni). He was meeting serious guys and came alone. They showed him the letter, and he said 'absolutely.' Mikey was made acting boss and Patty was made a captain (of the old Brooklyn crew). Stevie would be accepted as our boss if he beat the case." (John said Patty's elevation to underboss "happened while I was gone.")

As for Crea's willingness to oblige Vic's request, Pennisi said, "a true person of La Cosa Nostra goes by what the boss says. It wasn't that Stevie was afraid. Stevie was honoring what La Cosa Nostra is all about. The boss sent a message, he honored it. Steve is La Cosa Nostra."

[SonnyBlackstein]

Where’s pizzaboy

PB hasn’t said anything about the transition from Bronx to Brooklyn…
He was overrated and extremely biased, that’s not me taking a shot at him
He ridiculously claimed that had Vic and Gas stayed on the street for another couple of years, that the Genovese Family would have backed the Lucchese Bronx Faction in taking both of them out.

Correct. PB, was not who he alluded to be.

He claimed for years Crea was the actual boss and Vic was nothing. Bullshit.

He also claimed Stevie Jnr was 100% NOT involved in the life.
Good call there. Guy is a captain.


Pennisi's opinions about Matty and Stevie Jnr should be taken with a grain of salt. Pennisi flipped, Matty and Crea Jnr stood up. Each could've buried that family. Take that for what you will.

[Little_Al1991]

Where’s pizzaboy

PB hasn’t said anything about the transition from Bronx to Brooklyn…
He was overrated and extremely biased, that’s not me taking a shot at him
He ridiculously claimed that had Vic and Gas stayed on the street for another couple of years, that the Genovese Family would have backed the Lucchese Bronx Faction in taking both of them out.

Correct. PB, was not who he alluded to be.

He claimed for years Crea was the actual boss and Vic was nothing. Bullshit.

He also claimed Stevie Jnr was 100% NOT involved in the life.
Good call there. Guy is a captain.


Pennisi's opinions about Matty and Stevie Jnr should be taken with a grain of salt. Pennisi flipped, Matty and Crea Jnr stood up. Each could've buried that family. Take that for what you will.

I think Pennisi’s opinions should be valued as he’s quite truthful
He has good to say about Mikey DeSantis, the man who sanctioned his death and literally had people laying on him.He has no reason to lie about Matty and even if he did, he’s shown that he won’t because he speaks well of Mikey
What he says about Matty seems to be true in my opinion.

[SonnyBlackstein]

I think Pennisi’s opinions should be valued as he’s quite truthful
He has good to say about Mikey DeSantis, the man who sanctioned his death and literally had people laying on him.He has no reason to lie about Matty and even if he did, he’s shown that he won’t because he speaks well of Mikey
What he says about Matty seems to be true in my opinion.

I agree. In general.

But there are red flags. He's labeled Jonny sideburns a rat, and in his recent video he labeled John Perna a rat. Both unsubstantiated, and with serious, serious consequences. He should understand what it's like of all people to be baselessly labeled a stool pigeon. It's not a small thing.

So his experiences, whilst on the whole are great info, there is an underlying vindictiveness, and one, in my opinion has lessened his credibility to an extent.

He's putting these guys, who are still in the life, lives in jeopardy. NOT a small thing.

[AntComello]

Crea Jr prob banged Pennisi’s girl

[Little_Al1991]

I think Pennisi’s opinions should be valued as he’s quite truthful
He has good to say about Mikey DeSantis, the man who sanctioned his death and literally had people laying on him.He has no reason to lie about Matty and even if he did, he’s shown that he won’t because he speaks well of Mikey
What he says about Matty seems to be true in my opinion.

I agree. In general.

But there are red flags. He's labeled Jonny sideburns a rat, and in his recent video he labeled John Perna a rat. Both unsubstantiated, and with serious, serious consequences. He should understand what it's like of all people to be baselessly labeled a stool pigeon. It's not a small thing.

So his experiences, whilst on the whole are great info, there is an underlying vindictiveness, and one, in my opinion has lessened his credibility to an extent.

He's putting these guys, who are still in the life, lives in jeopardy. NOT a small thing.

I agree

His status as a government witness confirms that Perna and Sideburns are not informants.
There’s no way that someone who’s cooperated would out others who currently are cooperating.It would lead to consequences for Pennisi
When he speaks about Patty Dellorusso we can see his vindictiveness
He never really says anything good about him, even though he was really close to him

[slimshady_007]

Crea Jr prob banged Pennisi’s girl

Lol women seems to be Pennisi’s problem. His 17 years in state prison for manslaughter was over a women.

[SonnyBlackstein]

I agree

His status as a government witness confirms that Perna and Sideburns are not informants.
There’s no way that someone who’s cooperated would out others who currently are cooperating.It would lead to consequences for Pennisi
When he speaks about Patty Dellorusso we can see his vindictiveness
He never really says anything good about him, even though he was really close to him

None of these guys are 'good' guys. In the sense of loyalty, friendship, honor, trust etc.
But to label guys as rats, is a dangerous, crossing of lines. I'd be fine with Pennisi if just shat on these guys for being the dirt bags they are, but he's jeopardizing their lives by labeling them stool pigeons. And he, of all people should know better.

[AntComello]

Crea Jr prob banged Pennisi’s girl

Lol women seems to be Pennisi’s problem. His 17 years in state prison for manslaughter was over a women.

Instead of murder he now makes YouTube videos claiming the guy is “100% not cut out for the life”