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come from the 11th and 1st area basically between B and 2nd from 10th to 14th?
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Not me but I spent a little under a decade down there from 2000 onwards, with my ex (who is from there), and saw zero trace of any open LCN type of activity or individuals... and I was going into DeRobertis a couple times a week for years. It was old people sipping coffee and yuppies buying pastries, no sit downs, no track suits, nothing like that. Same with that tile store that's supposed to be 'connected' - never saw shit outside of there.

You're going to have to find someone really old for any stories or info on the hodge podge of crews that were there back in the day. I know historically the Genovese and Gambinos have roots there...but that's historically... like Lanza's restarurant, Nino Gaggi I believe was from Avenue A when he was a little kid, etc. - generations ago
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newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:30 pm Not me but I spent a little under a decade down there from 2000 onwards, with my ex (who is from there), and saw zero trace of any open LCN type of activity or individuals... and I was going into DeRobertis a couple times a week for years. It was old people sipping coffee and yuppies buying pastries, no sit downs, no track suits, nothing like that. Same with that tile store that's supposed to be 'connected' - never saw shit outside of there.

You're going to have to find someone really old for any stories or info on the hodge podge of crews that were there back in the day. I know historically the Genovese and Gambinos have roots there...but that's historically... like Lanza's restarurant, Nino Gaggi I believe was from Avenue A when he was a little kid, etc. - generations ago
DeRobertis was really something. The tin ceiling and floor tiles predated the bakery, which was started in 1904. I never actually lived down there (or anywhere in Midtown or Lower Manhattan), but without knowing the history I’d have never guessed that it had any notable LCN connections in the past, just based on the area since the 2000s, of course.
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PolackTony wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:06 pm
newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:30 pm Not me but I spent a little under a decade down there from 2000 onwards, with my ex (who is from there), and saw zero trace of any open LCN type of activity or individuals... and I was going into DeRobertis a couple times a week for years. It was old people sipping coffee and yuppies buying pastries, no sit downs, no track suits, nothing like that. Same with that tile store that's supposed to be 'connected' - never saw shit outside of there.

You're going to have to find someone really old for any stories or info on the hodge podge of crews that were there back in the day. I know historically the Genovese and Gambinos have roots there...but that's historically... like Lanza's restarurant, Nino Gaggi I believe was from Avenue A when he was a little kid, etc. - generations ago
DeRobertis was really something. The tin ceiling and floor tiles predated the bakery, which was started in 1904. I never actually lived down there (or anywhere in Midtown or Lower Manhattan), but without knowing the history I’d have never guessed that it had any notable LCN connections in the past, just based on the area since the 2000s, of course.
I loved that place - they held on to pretty low/fair prices as everything down there rightfully went up and up and up. I believe the kids just sold the building and quit the biz - can't really blame them, can only imagine what they got for it. But what a hit . Definitely miss that place. Always thought there was a Genovese family connection somewhere way back, but when I was going in there a lot 15+ years ago there wasn't any obvious type of LCN stuff (guys hanging out, whatever, etc)

I didn't know about 1904 - for some reason I was always under the impression they were the oldest bakery in Manhattan but Veneros across the street was 1897 I believe

The new place that opened in the DiRobertis store front is a Montreal Style Bagel place - as much of a sin as this sounds - it's better than any of the blue blood NYC bagel places. I hate admitting that, especially for how geared-toward-yuppies the place is, but jesus christ it's good
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newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:36 pm Montreal Style Bagel place - as much of a sin as this sounds - it's better than any of the blue blood NYC bagel places. I hate admitting that, especially for how geared-toward-yuppies the place is, but jesus christ it's good
Totally agree they’re smaller and crispier not like the soft balloon bagels you get at most places but personally I go for a bialy over a bagel.
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johnny_scootch wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:30 pm
newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 3:36 pm Montreal Style Bagel place - as much of a sin as this sounds - it's better than any of the blue blood NYC bagel places. I hate admitting that, especially for how geared-toward-yuppies the place is, but jesus christ it's good
personally I go for a bialy over a bagel.
Salut’, same here, my man. Every time, but bialys are getting harder to find lately as well.
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PolackTony wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:57 pm
johnny_scootch wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:30 pm
personally I go for a bialy over a bagel.
Salut’, same here, my man. Every time, but bialys are getting harder to find lately as well.
Tell me about it! Most of the places these days that do have bialys buy them rather than make them which is a disappointment. What I wouldn't do for a lightly toasted bialy with butter from Bell on East 80th and Flatlands Ave. Any Canarsie people here will definitely remember that place!
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Never had a Bialy in my life I don't think. Which is crazy. The jewish spot on grand street in the city near co-op village? I'm not even sure I really know what a bialy is lol
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Chicago has some good bagels and bialy on the north side where the Jews live. Nothing beats bagels in NYC though. Love that fluffy cream cheese
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NickyEyes1 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:01 pm Chicago has some good bagels and bialy on the north side where the Jews live. Nothing beats bagels in NYC though. Love that fluffy cream cheese
Chicago at least used to have some great Jewish bakeries and delis. When I go back I’m in West Rogers Park a lot as my in laws live there and Devon Ave farther west seems to be losing its Orthodox Jewish community in recent years (definitely not like how it was back in the day). Not sure if they’re moving out to the burbs, or out of Chicagoland. From what I can tell most of the real Jewish stuff is out in the N/NW burbs now.
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newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:50 pm Never had a Bialy in my life I don't think. Which is crazy. The jewish spot on grand street in the city near co-op village? I'm not even sure I really know what a bialy is lol
Nothing like a good bialy bro. Onion bialy with cream cheese. I’ll take it over one of these brick-sized bagels any day, but up here in the Bx I can’t get find em. Not even in New Rochelle.
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johnny_scootch wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:33 pm
PolackTony wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:57 pm
johnny_scootch wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:30 pm
personally I go for a bialy over a bagel.
Salut’, same here, my man. Every time, but bialys are getting harder to find lately as well.
Tell me about it! Most of the places these days that do have bialys buy them rather than make them which is a disappointment. What I wouldn't do for a lightly toasted bialy with butter from Bell on East 80th and Flatlands Ave. Any Canarsie people here will definitely remember that place!
Even when I lived by the border of freakin Boro Park it was hard to find places that made their own bialys instead of buying them from another place. Up here in the Bronx I can’t even get that though. Not sure why bialys are becoming an esoteric item, most people who have had them prefer them over bagels IME.
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PolackTony wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:41 pm
NickyEyes1 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:01 pm Chicago has some good bagels and bialy on the north side where the Jews live. Nothing beats bagels in NYC though. Love that fluffy cream cheese
Chicago at least used to have some great Jewish bakeries and delis. When I go back I’m in West Rogers Park a lot as my in laws live there and Devon Ave farther west seems to be losing its Orthodox Jewish community in recent years (definitely not like how it was back in the day). Not sure if they’re moving out to the burbs, or out of Chicagoland. From what I can tell most of the real Jewish stuff is out in the N/NW burbs now.
Still very Jewish west of California. Pretty crazy area diversity wise.. Orthodox Jews, Muslims in hijabs, Indians, Russians, Mexicans, ect all walking down Devon.

Suburbs wise obviously Skokie and Lincolnwood are the big ones. Morton Grove, Niles, Glenview, Wheeling, Buffalo Grove do as well.

North shore is another obvious one (Highland Park especially) but it's also WASPY too.

I'm a South side guy so not many Jewish people but we do have the best Jewish deli in the city.. Manny's :D
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newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:30 pm Not me but I spent a little under a decade down there from 2000 onwards, with my ex (who is from there), and saw zero trace of any open LCN type of activity or individuals... and I was going into DeRobertis a couple times a week for years. It was old people sipping coffee and yuppies buying pastries, no sit downs, no track suits, nothing like that. Same with that tile store that's supposed to be 'connected' - never saw shit outside of there.

You're going to have to find someone really old for any stories or info on the hodge podge of crews that were there back in the day. I know historically the Genovese and Gambinos have roots there...but that's historically... like Lanza's restarurant, Nino Gaggi I believe was from Avenue A when he was a little kid, etc. - generations ago
i know the area well as my close relative grew up over there and knew all the regular adn not so regular ppl, crews.

I'm looking for ppl who lived there in very late sixties to the late eighties to elaborate or clear up some things.

still have an aunt on 10th thats like 94.

The grandson of Debertis who prob served u your coffee is a nice guy...
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newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 1:30 pm Not me but I spent a little under a decade down there from 2000 onwards, with my ex (who is from there), and saw zero trace of any open LCN type of activity or individuals... and I was going into DeRobertis a couple times a week for years. It was old people sipping coffee and yuppies buying pastries, no sit downs, no track suits, nothing like that. Same with that tile store that's supposed to be 'connected' - never saw shit outside of there.

You're going to have to find someone really old for any stories or info on the hodge podge of crews that were there back in the day. I know historically the Genovese and Gambinos have roots there...but that's historically... like Lanza's restarurant, Nino Gaggi I believe was from Avenue A when he was a little kid, etc. - generations ago
you never saw any one in Veneiro's in the back?
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