Matteo Messina Denaro Arrested

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There two rumors roday:one is that Messina Denaro after 30 y on the lam and with a serious cancer,decided to surrender to the carabinieri,and this is a reason why he haven't the cuffs when was arrested and one more but that doesn't have much credit and in fact I don't believe it either, is that he was abandoned by the other mafiosi to stop the pressure from the forces of order.
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Strax wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:52 am I don't know what he means by "Riina's papello."
it was Riina's list of requests to the government, such as the abolition of article 41 bis
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Strax wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:52 am I don't know what he means by "Riina's papello."
The papello (big piece of paper) was the presunt request of Riina to the Italian State for stop the bomb and the other terroristic act in 1992/1993. So no more 41 bis and the release of low level mobsters.
In real life Provenzano gave to the carabinieri the address of the Riina villa in Palermo with the xondiction that the forces of order would only search the villa the following day, giving the mafiosi time to make any evidence disappear and to secure Riina's wife and daughter.
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scagghiuni wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:09 am it was Riina's list of requests to the government, such as the abolition of article 41 bis
Yes but i thought state negotiations are long gone,is he implying there are still negotiations being done between state and mafia?

I did not expect Paolo Borsellino's brother to say something like this
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:22 am
scagghiuni wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:56 am
B. wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:36 pm We should start having arguments about whether the Sicilian mafia is still viable.
of course it is, the arrest of MMD was just a masquerade in my opinion, they arrested him to send messages to somebody
I could be wrong but I think he was speaking tongue and cheek. A nod to the laborious discussions on this board about the viability of Buffalo, KC, Detroit, etc. I don’t think he’s actually suggesting the viability of the Sicilian Mafia is up for debate.
Yeah..lol that was B. Kidding us...
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Strax wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:13 am
scagghiuni wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:09 am it was Riina's list of requests to the government, such as the abolition of article 41 bis
Yes but i thought state negotiations are long gone,is he implying there are still negotiations being done between state and mafia?

I did not expect Paolo Borsellino's brother to say something like this
there are probably still some negotiations
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Charlie wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:55 am matteo-messina-denaro-selfie-infermiere-giallo.jpg
Where did you find this? Awesome if it’s really him
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Dr031718 wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:25 am Where did you find this? Awesome if it’s really him
https://www.open.online/2023/01/17/pale ... maddalena/

Other patients say they used to text with him almost everyday , they had no idea who he was, looks like he didn't care at the end.
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Charlie wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:55 am matteo-messina-denaro-selfie-infermiere-giallo.jpg
Hahahaha
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scagghiuni wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:00 am there are probably still some negotiations
If what Salvatore Borsellino said is true , which i guess it is , i can't think of powerful enough players so state would negotiate with them.Maybe Motisi or Guttadauro's i don't know.
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Dr031718 wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:25 am
Charlie wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:55 am matteo-messina-denaro-selfie-infermiere-giallo.jpg
Where did you find this? Awesome if it’s really him
Why wouldn't it be?
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CabriniGreen wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:25 am
Amershire_Ed wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:22 am
scagghiuni wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:56 am
B. wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:36 pm We should start having arguments about whether the Sicilian mafia is still viable.
of course it is, the arrest of MMD was just a masquerade in my opinion, they arrested him to send messages to somebody
I could be wrong but I think he was speaking tongue and cheek. A nod to the laborious discussions on this board about the viability of Buffalo, KC, Detroit, etc. I don’t think he’s actually suggesting the viability of the Sicilian Mafia is up for debate.
Yeah..lol that was B. Kidding us...
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Lorenza Guttadauro will be MMD's lawyer, she is the daughter of Filippo Guttadauro and Rosalia Messina Denaro ,Filippo Guttadauro is high ranking member of Castelvetrano family, she is also niece of Giuseppe 'The Doctor' Guttadauro mafia boss of Brancaccio mandamento and ex primary of Palermo hospital.
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Strax wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:00 pm Lorenza Guttadauro will be MMD's lawyer, she is the daughter of Filippo Guttadauro and Rosalia Messina Denaro ,Filippo Guttadauro is high ranking member of Castelvetrano family, she is also niece of Giuseppe 'The Doctor' Guttadauro mafia boss of Brancaccio mandamento and ex primary of Palermo hospital.
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Had no idea the Guttadauros intermarried with the Messina Denaros and had members in both Brancaccio and Castelvetrano. So Filippo is Giuseppe's brother?
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