Visiting Lucchese 1963

[Angelo Santino]

Vario's father came from Monte San Giuliano (Erice), I know B. said was from Vita? Is there a source?

[B.]

I got that from JD many years ago. Good to know if it was actually MSG.

[Angelo Santino]

There was one individual whose name I don't recall as it all becomes a blur. One individual's grandfather was born in Naples, his son was married in Messina, had a child in Palermo. Mother's side came from Potenza. When people move around it's hard to classify people. Take Vito Genovese, 100% Sicilian but his parents moved to Naples, he grew up there and was considered by his contemporaries to be Napolitan. I guess it follows the same standards as anything else. If we're cousins and our parents and grandparents lived in New York, then mine move to the midwest and I grow up there and visit New York, would you consider me a Newyorkamerese when I call the Coke pop?

Monte San Giuliano (Erice) and Vita have connections, you see it with the Detroit Ruggirellos, some came from Erice, some Vita and others San Vito Lo Capo and they're all related which makes things confusing.

[Angelo Santino]

Paolo D'Anna, ID'd by D'Arco, was 103 and died in 1988. There is a guy who was born in 1895, Siculiana, arrived in 1912 to brother Gaetano in Aguilar, Colorado. He was living in Chicago by 1917 based off his WW1 draft which matches the BD of his WW2 draft. By 1930 he was living in Brooklyn.

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[Angelo Santino]

There was also a Paolo D'Anna born in 1906 who died in 1989, parents from Sciacca.

I'm not seeing anyone who fits, 103 would be 1885.

[JoelTurner]

Take Vito Genovese, 100% Sicilian but his parents moved to Naples, he grew up there and was considered by his contemporaries to be Napolitan.

Genovese was Sicilian?? I don't think I've heard that before

[Angelo Santino]

Take Vito Genovese, 100% Sicilian but his parents moved to Naples, he grew up there and was considered by his contemporaries to be Napolitan.

Genovese was Sicilian?? I don't think I've heard that before

He was born in Ricigliano, Salerno, Campania but both of his parents were from Alia, Palermo. But it's a technicality, no sources who were around Vito at the time made note of it and to the contrary, he was regarded as the top Napolitan in that world. "It's like finding out that James Caan isn't Italian."

[Angelo Santino]

Anyone have any information on Giuseppe Emanuele Pelham Bay Joe?

[PolackTony]

would you consider me a Newyorkamerese when I call the Coke pop?

No.

[Little_Al1991]

Christie Tick Furnari should be on here

[JoelTurner]

This was Benny Pizzolato :

Abate Crew

BIAGIO PIZZOLATO
(Benny)
DOB: Jan 1 1896
POB: Vita, Sicily, Italy
F: Victorio Pizzolato
M: Martha Leo
W: Mary Cerami
Occupation: Tailor
Address: 354 15th Ave, Newark, NJ
Death: Sep 4 1964

[JoelTurner]

This was Lenny Pizzolato:

Abate Crew

LEONARDO PIZZOLATO
(Lenny, Pilatto)
DOB: Jul 26 1904 [or Jun 25 1904]
POB: Vita, Sicily, Italy
F: Victorio Pizzolato
M: Martha Leo
W: Lena Licari
Occupation: Tailor
Address: 534 15th Ave, Newark, NJ
FBI #: 0650438
Death: Jul 1990

[PolackTony]

Anyone have any information on Giuseppe Emanuele Pelham Bay Joe?

Bill Feather had him as a guy born ~1888 in Messina. Corresponds to a Giuseppe Emanuele from San Fratello, Messina (a comune that we’ve also seen come up with the Genovese and Gambinos now). I don’t know if that’s the right guy, but it seems to be the best match (there was a Giuseppe Emanuele from Agrigento as well but that guy lived in BK/SI).

IIRC, Valachi had Pelham Bay Joe as dead by the time of his 1963 testimony?

[JoelTurner]

This was Vito Pizzolato:

Abate Crew

VITO PIZZOLATO
DOB: Aug 2 1910
POB: Vita, Sicily, Italy
F: Victorio Pizzolato
M: Martha Leo
Occupation: Car Salesman
Address: 448 S 13th St, Newark, NJ
FBI #: 54586
NJSBI #: 717406
Death: Apr 1981

[JoelTurner]

This was Sam Accardi:

Abate Crew - Deported

SETTIMO ACCARDO
(Big Sam, Sam Accardi, Giuseppe Accarobi)
DOB: Oct 23 1902
POB: Vita, Sicily, Italy
F: Salvatore Accardo
M: Francesca Avila
W: Teresa Menio
Occupation: Construction
Address: 188 Franklin St, Bloomfield, NJ
Newark PD #: 17577
FBI #: 603907
Death: Dec 3 1977