Visiting the West Side 1963

[B.]

This recording makes it pretty clear that Saro Mogavero was Rocco Pellegrino's top lieutenant or acting capo. It doesn't rule out that another crew merged with the Pellegrino-Mogavero crew later, but Mogavero definitely succeeded Pellegrino.

FBI file - Mogavero acts in Pellegrino's absence.jpg

Here's the source for context: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... elPageId=2

Yeah, they were also related through marriage. The amount of evidence placing Mogavero as Pellegrino's acting captain / successor is why I'm thinking the crew of "Patsy" (possibly Del Duca) was merged into the existing Pellegrino/Mogavero crew rather than Mogavero taking over a brand new crew.

I had thought that Funzi Tieri took over the Toddo Del Duca's crew when he passed away in 1960. However, a merger with the Pellegrino crew makes a lot of sense too.

Some of Del Duca's guys may have been placed with Tieri (I have no clue) in 1960 but Tieri was a captain since the 1950s when the Miranda crew was broken up among a bunch of new captains.

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The thing with crew successions is our minds always want them to be more linear than they are. Sometimes a guy only takes over part of a crew, certain members are reassigned elsewhere, or sometimes a new crew is created using members from existing crews. We also tend to want them to follow definite geography which isn't always the case.

[JoelTurner]

Catena Decina

Frank Toto
Carmine Toto

This was one guy. He was born on 05/11/1904

[HairyKnuckles]

Rosario Mogavero was the acting capo for Rocco Pellegrino. Multiple docs confirm this:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino

These docs show that Mogavero and Angelino ran two different groups at the same time:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... =Angellino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... =Angellino

Funzi Tieri succeeded Mike Miranda according to this doc (I think the "acting" part is incorrect and maybe based on old info; Pogo writes that Miranda's crew was split between Tieri and Pete DeFeo [and maybe a couple others], which I agree with):
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino

Gaetano Ricci was a soldier under Joe Adonis and later Jimmy Blue Eyes Alo
Charles Gagliodotto was in Greco's crew
Thomas Eboli was a capo and the acting underboss. Pasquale Eboli was the acting capo of his crew.
It also seems clear from Thomas Greco's file that Salvatore Granello was in his crew.
David Petillo was originally in Miranda's crew; HK found a source that says he later went to Greco's crew

I guess it´s possible Pellegrino´s crew was split and that Jimmy Angellina took control over the Bronx/Westchester based members and Mogavero (acting for Pellegrino) took control over the Brooklyn/Lower Manhattan based members. When Patsy Delduca died in 1964, his crew went with Mogavero. And if JD is correct, Mogavero also took in Joe Agone and Joe Lapi who had previously been under Jimmy Alto when he was alive. I went through Alto´s file and could not see anything indicating he had been a caporegima though so I would love to see JD´s source for this.
Chris, if JD is correct, you should put Jimmy Alto up as captain on your chart.

Antiliar, has it been confirmed Gagliodotto was in Greco´s crew? The only reason I wrote (in a previous post) Petillo may have been under Greco is because Petillo and and Gagliodotto were extremely close. They may have been under same captain.

Granello was most likely under Generoso. I think JD discovered that some time ago, if I´m not misremembering. I could be wrong though.

I'm not sure if I understand fully. Correct me where I'm wrong.

Anthony Carfano -> James Angelina [BKN based crew, Angelina becomes capo ~1959]

Where does this info originally come from? I have not seen anything that suggests Angellina took over from Carfano. If you take a look at the Genovese chart presented at the Valachi Hearings, it looks like Angellina succeeded Pellegrino.

Mike Miranda´s crew was split five ways when he was made consigliere. Tieri, Celambrino, Carillo, DeFeo and Celano had all been under Miranda but where all captains by the early 1960s.

[Gelis]

Rosario Mogavero was the acting capo for Rocco Pellegrino. Multiple docs confirm this:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino

These docs show that Mogavero and Angelino ran two different groups at the same time:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... =Angellino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... =Angellino

Funzi Tieri succeeded Mike Miranda according to this doc (I think the "acting" part is incorrect and maybe based on old info; Pogo writes that Miranda's crew was split between Tieri and Pete DeFeo [and maybe a couple others], which I agree with):
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino

Gaetano Ricci was a soldier under Joe Adonis and later Jimmy Blue Eyes Alo
Charles Gagliodotto was in Greco's crew
Thomas Eboli was a capo and the acting underboss. Pasquale Eboli was the acting capo of his crew.
It also seems clear from Thomas Greco's file that Salvatore Granello was in his crew.
David Petillo was originally in Miranda's crew; HK found a source that says he later went to Greco's crew

I guess it´s possible Pellegrino´s crew was split and that Jimmy Angellina took control over the Bronx/Westchester based members and Mogavero (acting for Pellegrino) took control over the Brooklyn/Lower Manhattan based members. When Patsy Delduca died in 1964, his crew went with Mogavero. And if JD is correct, Mogavero also took in Joe Agone and Joe Lapi who had previously been under Jimmy Alto when he was alive. I went through Alto´s file and could not see anything indicating he had been a caporegima though so I would love to see JD´s source for this.
Chris, if JD is correct, you should put Jimmy Alto up as captain on your chart.

Antiliar, has it been confirmed Gagliodotto was in Greco´s crew? The only reason I wrote (in a previous post) Petillo may have been under Greco is because Petillo and and Gagliodotto were extremely close. They may have been under same captain.

Granello was most likely under Generoso. I think JD discovered that some time ago, if I´m not misremembering. I could be wrong though.

I'm not sure if I understand fully. Correct me where I'm wrong.

Anthony Carfano -> James Angelina [BKN based crew, Angelina becomes capo ~1959]

Where does this info originally come from? I have not seen anything that suggests Angellina took over from Carfano. If you take a look at the Genovese chart presented at the Valachi Hearings, it looks like Angellina succeeded Pellegrino.

Mike Miranda´s crew was split five ways when he was made consigliere. Tieri, Celambrino, Carillo, DeFeo and Celano had all been under Miranda but where all captains by the early 1960s.

I think someone posted that Saro Mogavaro was redacted from the Valachi chart, as he was under investigation by the FBI and they didn't want to jepodise that. If you examin the chart closely you can see a space the left of Pelligrino where Mogavaro's name should be.

There also seems to be a space the Angelinas's right where, presumably, his predessesor's name should go.

[JoelTurner]

I think this is where the idea that Jimmy Angelina was succeeded Carfano comes from:



As noted, he lived in Rye, NY and was active in Westchester/BX. This was more Pellegrino’s area than Carfano’s,

Isn’t Alo supposed to have gone from the Pellegrino crew to being capo of the Adonis crew? Maybe Angelina did something similar, going from the Pellegrino crew to being capo of the Carfano crew.
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Did Toddo Del Duca’s crew come from the Miranda split?

[HairyKnuckles]

Rosario Mogavero was the acting capo for Rocco Pellegrino. Multiple docs confirm this:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino

These docs show that Mogavero and Angelino ran two different groups at the same time:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... =Angellino
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... =Angellino

Funzi Tieri succeeded Mike Miranda according to this doc (I think the "acting" part is incorrect and maybe based on old info; Pogo writes that Miranda's crew was split between Tieri and Pete DeFeo [and maybe a couple others], which I agree with):
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pellegrino

Gaetano Ricci was a soldier under Joe Adonis and later Jimmy Blue Eyes Alo
Charles Gagliodotto was in Greco's crew
Thomas Eboli was a capo and the acting underboss. Pasquale Eboli was the acting capo of his crew.
It also seems clear from Thomas Greco's file that Salvatore Granello was in his crew.
David Petillo was originally in Miranda's crew; HK found a source that says he later went to Greco's crew

I guess it´s possible Pellegrino´s crew was split and that Jimmy Angellina took control over the Bronx/Westchester based members and Mogavero (acting for Pellegrino) took control over the Brooklyn/Lower Manhattan based members. When Patsy Delduca died in 1964, his crew went with Mogavero. And if JD is correct, Mogavero also took in Joe Agone and Joe Lapi who had previously been under Jimmy Alto when he was alive. I went through Alto´s file and could not see anything indicating he had been a caporegima though so I would love to see JD´s source for this.
Chris, if JD is correct, you should put Jimmy Alto up as captain on your chart.

Antiliar, has it been confirmed Gagliodotto was in Greco´s crew? The only reason I wrote (in a previous post) Petillo may have been under Greco is because Petillo and and Gagliodotto were extremely close. They may have been under same captain.

Granello was most likely under Generoso. I think JD discovered that some time ago, if I´m not misremembering. I could be wrong though.

I'm not sure if I understand fully. Correct me where I'm wrong.

Anthony Carfano -> James Angelina [BKN based crew, Angelina becomes capo ~1959]

Where does this info originally come from? I have not seen anything that suggests Angellina took over from Carfano. If you take a look at the Genovese chart presented at the Valachi Hearings, it looks like Angellina succeeded Pellegrino.

Mike Miranda´s crew was split five ways when he was made consigliere. Tieri, Celambrino, Carillo, DeFeo and Celano had all been under Miranda but where all captains by the early 1960s.

I think someone posted that Saro Mogavaro was redacted from the Valachi chart, as he was under investigation by the FBI and they didn't want to jepodise that. If you examin the chart closely you can see a space the left of Pelligrino where Mogavaro's name should be.

There also seems to be a space the Angelinas's right where, presumably, his predessesor's name should go.

I really don´t think there´s any redactions there.

I think this is where the idea that Jimmy Angelina was succeeded Carfano comes from:



As noted, he lived in Rye, NY and was active in Westchester/BX. This was more Pellegrino’s area than Carfano’s,

Right. And just because two individuals were associated with eachother, as described in the snippet, doesn´t have to mean that they belonged to the same crew.

Did Toddo Del Duca’s crew come from the Miranda split?

No, most likely not. Not much info on Delduca is available, he may have been a captain dating back to the 1930s.

[Angelo Santino]

Can we we start with the current captains? Who we have confirmed and who are suspected, I believe Battaglia is the only one suspected. What about Harry Lanza? He popped up out of nowhere.

[JoelTurner]

Can we we start with the current captains? Who we have confirmed and who are suspected, I believe Battaglia is the only one suspected. What about Harry Lanza? He popped up out of nowhere.

Battaglia wasn't a captain. This idea likely stems from a sit down where he backed Tony Bananas; the feds thought he was a Philadelphia capo as a result.

He was most likely in Catena's crew but had a poor relationship with the other members like Catena or DeCarlo

[HairyKnuckles]

Harry Lanza definitely a captain.

[Antiliar]

I guess it´s possible Pellegrino´s crew was split and that Jimmy Angellina took control over the Bronx/Westchester based members and Mogavero (acting for Pellegrino) took control over the Brooklyn/Lower Manhattan based members. When Patsy Delduca died in 1964, his crew went with Mogavero. And if JD is correct, Mogavero also took in Joe Agone and Joe Lapi who had previously been under Jimmy Alto when he was alive. I went through Alto´s file and could not see anything indicating he had been a caporegima though so I would love to see JD´s source for this.
Chris, if JD is correct, you should put Jimmy Alto up as captain on your chart.

Antiliar, has it been confirmed Gagliodotto was in Greco´s crew? The only reason I wrote (in a previous post) Petillo may have been under Greco is because Petillo and and Gagliodotto were extremely close. They may have been under same captain.

Granello was most likely under Generoso. I think JD discovered that some time ago, if I´m not misremembering. I could be wrong though.

The info on Gagliodotto and Granello comes from Thomas Greco's FBI file. I think Petillo's file indicates he was in Miranda's crew, at least earlier.

[Angelo Santino]

I'm going to list Angelina as his own decina leader and Mogavero as Pellegrino's Acting. The evidence seems to confirm this. Removed Battaglia.

If you take a look at the Genovese chart presented at the Valachi Hearings, it looks like Angellina succeeded Pellegrino.

Mike Miranda´s crew was split five ways when he was made consigliere. Tieri, Celambrino, Carillo, DeFeo and Celano had all been under Miranda but where all captains by the early 1960s.

1 Yes it looks like that but it's not, if it was Pellegrino would have been moved one invisible row up, instead it references him as a former capo succeeded by an unlisted individual. The chart clearly lists Alo is the successor of Doto. It doesn't list who Angelina succeeded, Carfagna is instead placed on the other side of the chart under "Former." They either didn't have the information yet or it's just not accurate. We'll go where the evidence leads us and if we can't confirm we won't try and guess.

gencapc.PNG

2 Thanks for reminding me about this 5 way split.

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Anyways, here's where things stand, before we delve into the decina, I'd like to confirm what we have on decina bosses.

1 Vincent Alo - Succeeded Joe Doto
--Gerard Laietta

2 Richie Boiardo - Succeeded Willie Moretti

3 Antonio Carillo - (Formed from former Miranda Decina)

4 Eugene Catena

5 Salvatore Celembrino - (Formed from former Miranda Decina)

6 Frank Celano - (Formed from former Miranda Decina)

7 Mike Coppola - Succeeded Ciro Terranova
-- Philip Lombardo

8 Salvatore Cufari

9 Angelo DeCarlo

10 Peter DeFeo - (Formed from former Miranda Decina)

11 Generoso DelDucca

12 Thomas Eboli
-- Pasquale Eboli

13 Cosmo Frasca

14 Vincenzo Generosa
-- Michael Generosa

15 Thomas Greco

16 Rocco Pellegrino
-- Rosario Mogavero

17 James Angelina - *Suspected of succeeding Carfagno

18 Frank Tieri - (Formed from former Miranda Decina)

19 Jimmy Altomari

20 Harry Lanza???

[JoelTurner]

Generoso Del Duca died on Mar 28 1960 in
Miami

[Antiliar]

I'm looking through Rocco Pellegrino's FBI file, and as of 1967 he's still the caporegime in the White Plains area. Later that year he was declared to be inactive. He died in 1975.

[Angelo Santino]

So we don't know who Del Ducca preceeded, we just know that he was a former capo? We don't have any members of this decina that we can tie to 1963? If we don't know we don't know.

Regarding Pellegrino, he may have utilized an "Acting Capo" for several reasons including health, he wasn't a spring chicken by 63. Other Gen captains in this era appeared to utilize "Acting Capo" which is essentially a lieutenant. Quite understandable given the size of these decina. I think it's a safe bet that the Gens had the largest decina of any family. They and the Gambinos each had about 300 members, the Gams had 25-7 capodecina and the Gens had what appears to be 17-20.

[Angelo Santino]

Also, there's overlap between the members in Worcester/Springfield between the Gens and New England. The NE charts listed Scibelli and Cufari as New England members, which we know not to be true due to later sources confirming their Genovese affiliation. However, Worcester is a different story, I believe HK had some reservations on these guys membership.

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9548

it appears the Worcester and Springfield faction or factions of LCN were lumped into both the Genovese and Patriarca Families- here are the ones listed in both along with Cufari and Scibelli:

Nicholas Camerota GEN Springfield, MA
James Collaro GEN? Worcester, MA
Chester Iacone GEN? Worcester, MA
Salvatore Iacone GEN? Worcester, MA
Carlo Mastrototaro GEN Worcester, MA
Cosmo Panarelli GEN Worcester, MA
Thomas SanFratello GEN Worcester, MA
Francis Santo GEN Worcester, MA

Do we have evidence that that points which direction their affiliation was? Worcester could have been an extension of Springfield or they separate factions. The cities were 50 miles away.

So what do we really know about these Worcester guys and where their affiliations lay. Can we even confirm they were actually members?