I think it's likely. Magaddino rants about his cousin "Giovanuzzo" (Bonventre) like he does Bonanno and Pete Magaddino. Something happened between them for sure.thekiduknow wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:35 pmAh, that sounds familiar.B. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:12 pm It's in an FBI report. Don't know who reported it. Bonventre was shelved for insulting Magaddino.
JD found the same thing and elaborated on it if I remember correctly, that Sabella took at least part of Bonventre's crew but Bonventre was given some of his guys back and finally when he went to Italy some of his crew was placed back with Sabella who remained a captain throughout.
Correct me if I'm wrong, as I may have mixed up the details, but do you remember if the insult to Magaddino had something to do with a story he tells on a wiretap, something about a rifle that belonged to DiGregorio? I believe its when he's talking to Paul Sciacca and the other Bonanno guy. There's another translation where he tells the story, and segues into the murder of Joseph Stabile, who was killed in the 1940s, so I wonder if the two were connected somehow.
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Disregard what I said about the Tucson informant, here is what I was thinking of:
Earlier in the file a Tucson informant was contacted, but nothing indicates this info was given by him.
Earlier in the file a Tucson informant was contacted, but nothing indicates this info was given by him.
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If I remember right, Frank Garofalo was involved as well but I think more as a mediator. Definitely became a big deal. Pretty sure Magaddino says something like Bonanno kept asking Magaddino if he(Magaddino) wanted someone killed, and he took offense because he felt Bonanno was trying to distance himself from it, so he could say "It was Magaddino wanted".B. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:39 pmI think it's likely. Magaddino rants about his cousin "Giovanuzzo" (Bonventre) like he does Bonanno and Pete Magaddino. Something happened between them for sure.thekiduknow wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:35 pmAh, that sounds familiar.B. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:12 pm It's in an FBI report. Don't know who reported it. Bonventre was shelved for insulting Magaddino.
JD found the same thing and elaborated on it if I remember correctly, that Sabella took at least part of Bonventre's crew but Bonventre was given some of his guys back and finally when he went to Italy some of his crew was placed back with Sabella who remained a captain throughout.
Correct me if I'm wrong, as I may have mixed up the details, but do you remember if the insult to Magaddino had something to do with a story he tells on a wiretap, something about a rifle that belonged to DiGregorio? I believe its when he's talking to Paul Sciacca and the other Bonanno guy. There's another translation where he tells the story, and segues into the murder of Joseph Stabile, who was killed in the 1940s, so I wonder if the two were connected somehow.
There's a lot of interesting translation of this tape spread out in Magaddino's files. When I get some time, I want to try and complie them together so it's easier to see the differences. Some really expand on parts other translations just summarize.
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Bonanno's first consigliere Frank Italiano was born in Alcamo, Trapani.
His death certificate lists his parents as Joseph and Anna, and his wife as Vincenza, living at 1365 75 St, Brooklyn.
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/6324966
This matches with a marriage record of a Frank Italiano, born in Alcamo to a Joseph and Anna, and a Vincenza Mule, also born in Alcamo. They were married June 1925, almost exactly ten years before he was murdered. It also looks like a John Bongiorno was a witness to the wedding, could be a connection the Castellammarese Bongiornos.
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/9717865
Oddly, in his petition for naturalization, submitted in October 1927, he says that he was single. He lists his date of birth as August 3rd, 1896, which is one day off from what his widowed wife Vincenza stated on her naturalization in the 1940s, August 2nd, 1896.
On his naturalization, he stated that he arrived in the US on March 6th, 1920 on the SS Canada. I haven't found a record of that, but haven't dug that deep yet.
His death certificate lists his parents as Joseph and Anna, and his wife as Vincenza, living at 1365 75 St, Brooklyn.
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/6324966
This matches with a marriage record of a Frank Italiano, born in Alcamo to a Joseph and Anna, and a Vincenza Mule, also born in Alcamo. They were married June 1925, almost exactly ten years before he was murdered. It also looks like a John Bongiorno was a witness to the wedding, could be a connection the Castellammarese Bongiornos.
https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc ... ew/9717865
Oddly, in his petition for naturalization, submitted in October 1927, he says that he was single. He lists his date of birth as August 3rd, 1896, which is one day off from what his widowed wife Vincenza stated on her naturalization in the 1940s, August 2nd, 1896.
On his naturalization, he stated that he arrived in the US on March 6th, 1920 on the SS Canada. I haven't found a record of that, but haven't dug that deep yet.
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Cross posting here.
With the Castellammarese being so insular, could definitely be that he saw the other Trapanese as a threat. Even into the 1960s, they were still prominent in the family, and pretty interconnected.
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Also a longstanding rivalry in Sicily between Alcamo and CDG.
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Ah, didn’t know that. That adds another layer to this already messy situation.
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Maybe Italiano was a consigliere from 1930, when alcamese Joe Parrino was a rappresentante
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I don't think Parrino was actually the boss, Masseria backed him to take over but according to Bonanno "That tactic failed when we elected Maranzano as our leader".
Newspaper articles about the shooting of Italiano and Pasquale Dauria in October 1930, and Italiano's murder in 1935 noted that Frank Italiano was an alias, and eventually it was determined his real name was Sebastiano Mano. The police stated they were investigating Italiano/Mano for potentially entering the country illegally.
There is a record of a Sebastiano Manno who was close in age to Italiano, and was also born in Alcamo, entering the US in 1922. Possibly could be one and the same as Italiano.
Newspaper articles about the shooting of Italiano and Pasquale Dauria in October 1930, and Italiano's murder in 1935 noted that Frank Italiano was an alias, and eventually it was determined his real name was Sebastiano Mano. The police stated they were investigating Italiano/Mano for potentially entering the country illegally.
There is a record of a Sebastiano Manno who was close in age to Italiano, and was also born in Alcamo, entering the US in 1922. Possibly could be one and the same as Italiano.
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The source is Bill Bonanno in his last book. And he specifacally says Dominick Sabella f I am not misremebering. Bonventre got demoted, Sabella took over his crew but sometime after that Bonventre was upped again and Sabella was given his own crew.
There you have it, never printed before.
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Thanks HK, you're right he does talk about Bonventre's demotion. But he says it was Michael Sabella who took over his crew.
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Then I misremembered. Thanks for the correction.thekiduknow wrote: ↑Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:56 am Thanks HK, you're right he does talk about Bonventre's demotion. But he says it was Michael Sabella who took over his crew.
There you have it, never printed before.
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This was one of the most interesting topics, I was fascinated to read all the evolution of the Bonanno family. A doubt: In the Castellammare del Golfo timeline, I didn't understand very well why it is a "Bonanno family", I know that Joe Bonanno came from there, but I was a little confused, because it is a Bonanno family timeline.
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Law enforcement had Spirito Jr listed as the Street Boss in early 2014. Of course we know now Spirito Sr has been the official underboss the past few years.
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Going back to this, I was re-reading my copy of The Sixth Family and it would appear Nick Alfano was consigliere for a brief time in the early 1970s. The following is a recorded conversation between Paolo Violi and Vic Cotroni that took place sometime between September 1972 and August 1973:
This meeting happened in the months after Alfano, Michael Zaffarano, Joseph Buccellato, and Nick Buttafuoco were sent to Montreal by Evola to attempt to mediate the dispute between Cotroni/ Violi and Nick Rizzuto.VIOLI: Joe [Evola], he's the capo, Mike [Philip Rastelli] is the sottocapo.
COTRONI: Who's the counselor?
VIOLI: Don Nicolino. He don't like it too much, 'cause he's old and he's gotta travel all over... Counselor's a big job.
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