List of the current members put on the shelf

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Re: List of the current members put on the shelf

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JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:18 pm
Philly d wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:48 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:51 pm
Philly d wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:21 pm Bonnanos seem to be dysfuctional judging by all the shelved guys. Acting boss, underboss, two congliere. capos...judging by a quick glance.
That was mancuso making sure that there was no takeover now that he was out of prison.

His reason was the last trial made them look weak bc they kept switching titles and referenced as “musical chair admin”
Yes, I would think it does make them look weak.

I mean ask the west side how weak it makes them look ???
It was actually a defensive lawyer trial strategy and it worked great

As far as earning and not kicking up for which would actually be better for them…. None of there rackets stay with them. All mafia business is passed on to someone else.
Why ask the WS? How many people are on the shelf with them? As Chin they dont break their captains they kill them
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:14 am Didn’t Borello claim there was a Bonanno member that got shelved fairly soon after he was made because he was putting dumb shit on social media about moving bodies and stuff? Or did the guy just get threatened with being shelved? I can’t remember the specifics.
It came out during Gasper Valenti's cooperation. From the Valenti thread:
- After Mike Palmaccio was inducted into the Bonanno family, there was an issue because Palmaccio put a photo of himself shirtless on the internet and also posted the quote "A friend will help you move, but a real friend will help you move a body." This was a source of embarrassment for the crew and soldier John Ragano and captain Vincent Asaro were recorded commenting on it to Gary Valenti.

Q - Ragano says, "He's on the Internet with his T-shirt off, and a friend will help you move, but a real friend will help you move a body." What was your understanding of what Ragano was telling you and the defendant?
A - That a wiseguy-- a normal friend will help you move, but a wiseguy will help you move a body.
Q - But who would put that on the Internet?
A - Palmaccio.
Q - And who had his shirt off on the Internet?
A - Palmaccio.
Q - Then at line 32, the defendant (Asaro) says, "What is he even doing on the Internet?" What was your understanding of why Mike Palmaccio was not supposed to be on the Internet?
A - You don't advertise that life.


After discussing Palmaccio's internet activities, Ragano said: "I'll go to jail in five minutes, but I don't want to go to jail for these stupid motherfuckers, Vin."

Jerry Asaro decided to shelve Palmaccio for the shirtless internet photo. Vincent Asaro was recorded telling Valenti that Jerry didn't have the right to shelve Palmaccio, only the boss could do it. Jerry attempted to drive Palmaccio out of the neighborhood and Vincent Asaro told Palmaccio to sell his house.

Yes, this is was all because of a shirtless internet photo.
Vinny Asaro's quote "What is he even doing on the Internet?" is an all-time mob classic.

I don't know if the admin approved of the request to shelve Palmaccio but that was the plan and he was definitely ostracized for it.
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Now that almost all the bosses in the US are out of prison, they should get together and settle that social media issue once and for all. No putting shirtless pics on instagram or shitposting on a rat’s yt channel.
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Philly d wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:54 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:18 pm
Philly d wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:48 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:51 pm
Philly d wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:21 pm Bonnanos seem to be dysfuctional judging by all the shelved guys. Acting boss, underboss, two congliere. capos...judging by a quick glance.
That was mancuso making sure that there was no takeover now that he was out of prison.

His reason was the last trial made them look weak bc they kept switching titles and referenced as “musical chair admin”
Yes, I would think it does make them look weak.

I mean ask the west side how weak it makes them look ???
It was actually a defensive lawyer trial strategy and it worked great

As far as earning and not kicking up for which would actually be better for them…. None of there rackets stay with them. All mafia business is passed on to someone else.
Why ask the WS? How many people are on the shelf with them? As Chin they dont break their captains they kill them
Pennisi claimed that Ralph Balsamo brought James Delio around him while he was shelved. I don’t know how he came to know that, since he wasn’t a member at the time, but it goes to show that sometimes the shelving order is not as observed as it should be. If anything, I’d guess it creates problems for captains when their manpower is scarce.
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is that asshole chris colombo shelved. cokehead freak
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Philly d wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:54 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:18 pm
Philly d wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:48 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:51 pm
Philly d wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:21 pm Bonnanos seem to be dysfuctional judging by all the shelved guys. Acting boss, underboss, two congliere. capos...judging by a quick glance.
That was mancuso making sure that there was no takeover now that he was out of prison.

His reason was the last trial made them look weak bc they kept switching titles and referenced as “musical chair admin”
Yes, I would think it does make them look weak.

I mean ask the west side how weak it makes them look ???
It was actually a defensive lawyer trial strategy and it worked great

As far as earning and not kicking up for which would actually be better for them…. None of there rackets stay with them. All mafia business is passed on to someone else.
Why ask the WS? How many people are on the shelf with them? As Chin they dont break their captains they kill them
Well like I pointed out…. Mancuso shelved all those guys bc he didn’t want them to overtake the family.

It’s basically the whole “other side “ of the Bonanno fam…. So it’s not like these guys were shelved on year then another a different time…. He shelved them all at once. Basically eliminating his rival faction that was in power at the time AND beat there trial that no one thought they would.

And obviously as many ppl have pointed out in the past the west side changes leadership positions and ppl all the time
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furiofromnaples wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:20 pm
sisterray wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:12 pm I believe it was either Michael Palmaccio or Michael Padavona. Another thing that factored into the shelving was the fact he uploaded a picture of himself wearing speedos.

I also think he taken off the shelf very quickly, which shows how much of an organisational mess the Bonannos were at the time, not just on an administrative level.

You'd have to wonder how many guys get into trouble due to their conduct on SM.
Michael Palmaccio was shelved for a month in 2011.
I have no infos on Michael Padavona.
He was shelved and Jerry Asaro slapped him.
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:27 pm
Philly d wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:54 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:18 pm
Philly d wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:48 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:51 pm
Philly d wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:21 pm Bonnanos seem to be dysfuctional judging by all the shelved guys. Acting boss, underboss, two congliere. capos...judging by a quick glance.
That was mancuso making sure that there was no takeover now that he was out of prison.

His reason was the last trial made them look weak bc they kept switching titles and referenced as “musical chair admin”
Yes, I would think it does make them look weak.

I mean ask the west side how weak it makes them look ???
It was actually a defensive lawyer trial strategy and it worked great

As far as earning and not kicking up for which would actually be better for them…. None of there rackets stay with them. All mafia business is passed on to someone else.
Why ask the WS? How many people are on the shelf with them? As Chin they dont break their captains they kill them
Well like I pointed out…. Mancuso shelved all those guys bc he didn’t want them to overtake the family.

It’s basically the whole “other side “ of the Bonanno fam…. So it’s not like these guys were shelved on year then another a different time…. He shelved them all at once. Basically eliminating his rival faction that was in power at the time AND beat there trial that no one thought they would.

And obviously as many ppl have pointed out in the past the west side changes leadership positions and ppl all the time
You said ask the WS. Again the WS doesn't put people on the shelf. Which family is the strongest. not going in circles with you.
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Philly d wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:23 pm Again the WS doesn't put people on the shelf.
They most certainly do, scroll up to find a perfectly good and recent example.

What does Chin saying they don’t break their captains have to do with putting soldiers on the shelf?

And Chin hasn’t been boss for a long time even that policy might have changed by now.
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Sammy Aparo was also on the shelf before he passed.
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JohnnyS wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:01 am Sammy Aparo was also on the shelf before he passed.
He was on the shelf when he died but Barney and Petey Red still went to his funeral. Possibly out of respect for his son.

Wasn’t he a captain at some point?
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johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:57 am
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:01 am Sammy Aparo was also on the shelf before he passed.
He was on the shelf when he died but Barney and Petey Red still went to his funeral. Possibly out of respect for his son.

Wasn’t he a captain at some point?
Sammy meatballs was shelved? for what? Cookie?

Saw him 2 nights at 69 Bayard stuffing his face ten years ago
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johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:57 am
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:01 am Sammy Aparo was also on the shelf before he passed.
He was on the shelf when he died but Barney and Petey Red still went to his funeral. Possibly out of respect for his son.

Wasn’t he a captain at some point?
He was an acting captain for Ross Gangi.
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CornerBoy wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:10 am
johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:57 am
JohnnyS wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:01 am Sammy Aparo was also on the shelf before he passed.
He was on the shelf when he died but Barney and Petey Red still went to his funeral. Possibly out of respect for his son.

Wasn’t he a captain at some point?
Sammy meatballs was shelved? for what? Cookie?

Saw him 2 nights at 69 Bayard stuffing his face ten years ago
He was shelved by Barney around 2015.
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johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:23 am
Philly d wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:23 pm Again the WS doesn't put people on the shelf.
They most certainly do, scroll up to find a perfectly good and recent example.

What does Chin saying they don’t break their captains have to do with putting soldiers on the shelf?

And Chin hasn’t been boss for a long time even that policy might have changed by now.
Because jeremy the jew mentioned the shelving of the bonnoanos acting admin and captains. You found one or two example. It's not absolute
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