General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

[Antiliar]

Given the time frame they're saying, Spilotro and his crew would certainly be my first suspects.

What evidence do you have that proves this?

Nothing's been proven yet. He's making known his suspicions and I agree. Spilotro was active in that time period and he and his crew left a lot of bodies. Putting bodies in barrels and dumping them in bodies of water is a typical Mafia modus operandi going back to the murder of Giuseppe Madonia in New York in 1903.

[Newyorkempire]

Given the time frame they're saying, Spilotro and his crew would certainly be my first suspects.

What evidence do you have that proves this?

Nothing's been proven yet. He's making known his suspicions and I agree. Spilotro was active in that time period and he and his crew left a lot of bodies. Putting bodies in barrels and dumping them in bodies of water is a typical Mafia modus operandi going back to the murder of Giuseppe Madonia in New York in 1903.

Ah ok. I understand. I have similar suspicions about Mafia operations. Time will tell if they can identify the remains.

[Antiliar]

Just reported that the man in the barrel was shot. It's looking more and more like a mob hit.

[SonnyC]

"In earlier testimony Monday, a 55-year-old Bridgeport native with swept-back, salt-and-pepper hair, testifying with immunity from prosecution, told jurors he formerly ran surveillances for the Outfit.

Michael Talarico, admitting he still works as a bookie, recalled how he once left a dead rat, a rope strung around its neck, at the office of someone who apparently ran afoul of his uncle, reputed mob boss Angelo LaPietra.

He said he left the rat on instructions from LaPietra. "He never gave me a reason," Talarico said.

Assistant U.S. Atty. Markus Funk asked whether Talarico had gotten the rat at a pet store. "Yeah, I believe so," Talarico said.

LaPietra put him in business with the Calabrese brothers, Talarico said, and he made payments for running his gambling operation and also gave out juice loans on their behalf.

On cross-examination, he said Nicholas Calabrese once cut off the head of a puppy and placed it on someone's car, a gesture that also went unexplained."

Chicago Tribune, July 17, 2007

I never thought his testimony was particularly damaging and he wasn't really pressed with any tough questions. He would have been hit with contempt if he didn't testify so maybe he was granted permission to do so. Someone like Toots, who apparently didn't care much for Frank Calabrese, may have given the green light for Talarico to take the stand. This wouldn't be unprecedented in the Outfit (Paul Ricca, John Matassa).

Also, you never know. Maybe he was put on the shelf when Angelo died and figured he had nothing to lose by taking the stand? A lot of questions about the whole situation, that's for sure.

Angelo was his uncle, so presumably, whether he was made or not, that was his "rabbi" in the Outfit.

I also wonder if he was just shelved once Angelo died.

I remember a story I think from Frank jr that talarico said he was out and Ronnie Jarrett and I think shorty lamantia beat the shit out of him. The way he was discussed it didn’t seem to me he was made. Remember it came out shorty wasn’t made either. Of all the people that we know got made in the 3 ceremonies we know about those were all high ranking guys that had done a lot. Talarico didn’t seem to cut it. Rocco Lombardo either as antillar pointed out. Or joe difronzo for that matter. I know wiseguy and I went through this not that long ago and I can’t remember the exact number we came up with but it was under 15 made guys and probably closer to 10. And I think some have died since then. No doubt that family is on fumes within 10 years, maybe less they will be another Cleveland

He wasn't made, just a bookie. And Angelo's nephew. I knew his brother Al fairly well when I hung out at the ONIAC.

Either Talarico wasn't made or he wasn't taking orders from Ronnie Jarrett. For me, that sort of thing is diagnostic. Given that we do have info that he seems to have been taking orders from Ronnie, then no way was he a made guy.

Since you're from the neighborhood, do you remember any of the Bagnolas? Jimmy "Bags" Bagnola was a CPD cop who got pinched for cocaine possession and was represented by Al Talarico. I believe that his uncle was Joe Bagnola who was on the FBI 10 Most Wanted list back in the 50s for a murder in New Orleans with Tony "Pupi" Maenza.

Name sounds familiar, I think he was a member of the club. I don't recall that incident, but I've been out of the neighborhood for a long time now, so I easily could have missed it.

[Frank]

Late 1993, a few months after DiFronzo was imprisoned. Sure sounds like Andriacchi to me. Nothing earth-shattering, just adds weight to what we have already assumed:





Physical description is also an exact match.

Yes great info Snakes.

[Frank]

This info and DiFronzo talk a few pages back brings up the question, was Andriacchi acting for DiFronzo or Carlisi.

[funkster]

Just reported that the man in the barrel was shot. It's looking more and more like a mob hit.

Very interesting.

[Snakes]

This info and DiFronzo talk a few pages back brings up the question, was Andriacchi acting for DiFronzo or Carlisi.

DiFronzo. Carlisi stepped back around 1989 or so (he was already spending about half the year in Florida) and DiFronzo took over much of the day to day duties. Once Carlisi went to prison, DiFronzo became full boss.

[Snakes]

To add to the last post without editing, Andriacchi apparently began acting for DiFronzo when the latter went to prison. When DiFronzo got out on appeal after a year or so, he was (presumably) boss again for a few years before ceding control to Monteleone. I'm currently trying to piece together more details about this time particular time period.

[PolackTony]

To add to the last post without editing, Andriacchi apparently began acting for DiFronzo when the latter went to prison. When DiFronzo got out on appeal after a year or so, he was (presumably) boss again for a few years before ceding control to Monteleone. I'm currently trying to piece together more details about this time particular time period.

Looking forward to it. Thanks for the post on Joey A, great stuff.

[Antiliar]

Here's a timeline for Carlisi and DiFronzo during the 1980s-90s:

1983, Feb 7: Jimmy Fratianno testifies in federal court that Joseph Aiuppa is the Chicago boss, Jack Cerone the underboss, and Anthony Accardo the consigliere. He said he was introduced to Aiuppa in late 1974 or 1975 at a Chicago area restaurant by Joseph Lombardo. Lombardo told him that Aiuppa was the boss and Cerone the underboss. In its Feb 13, 1983 edition, the Chicago Tribune calls Accardo as acting “as a sort of chairman emeritus.”
1983, Oct 11: Aiuppa, Cerone, and Angelo LaPietra are indicted in connection with the Las Vegas skim.
1983, Nov 1: Aiuppa is released on $50,000 bond.
1985, Sep 23: Las Vegas skim trial begins in Kansas City.
1986, Jan 21: Aiuppa and Cerone convicted.
1986, Jan 22: Law enforcement officials and mob experts believe either Joe Ferriola or Dominic Cortina will succeed Aiuppa when he goes to prison.
1986, Feb 1: The Chicago Tribune describes Joe Ferriola as a “crime boss.”
1986, Mar 27: Joseph Aiuppa is sentenced to 28 ½ years in federal prison. Jack Cerone was given the same sentence on March 25. As they enter prison they select Samuel Carlisi and John DiFronzo as their successors.
1986, Mar 30: Rudy Nimocks, Chief of the Organized Crime Division of the CPD, said that street sources and observation indicate that Ferriola is the boss.
1986, Jun 8: Federal investigators say thatt Ferriola is the boss and he elevated Salvatore DeLaurentis to his old position. Accardo is the consigliere.
1988, Oct: Law enforcement officials believe Sam Carlisi replaces Joe Ferriola as boss around this time.
1989, Mar 12: Chicago Sun-Times believes that DiFronzo will succeed Joe Ferriola as boss of the Outfit.
1991, Jan 18: The FBI and the Chicago Crime Commission agree that Anthony Accardo is the “chairman” of the Outfit, but disagree on the day-to-day boss. The CCC believes it is Sam Carlisi and the FBI believes it is DiFronzo.
1992, Jan 10: Carlisi and DiFronzo are arrested in San Diego. Federal officials said that Carlisi is semi-retired in Florida and DiFronzo is the day-to-day boss. The 15-count federal indictment charged Carlisi, DiFronzo, Chris Petti, Nicholas De Pento, Donald Angelini, Michael Caracchi, John Paul Spilotro, Glen Martin Calac, Carmen DiNunzio, and Anthony DiNunzio, with extortion, conspiracy, and racketeering in the Rincon Indian reservation in San Diego County, California.
1992, Jan 28: The Los Angeles Times reports that Carlisi and DiFronzo have been released on bail.
1992, May 20: A grand jury investigating the Dominic Senese bombing is underway and John DiFronzo, Marco D’Amico, Joseph LaMantia, and Anthony Dote appear to testify. The upcoming witness list includes Sam Carlisi, Joseph Andriacchi, Frank Calabrese, James Marcello, and Anthony Zizzo.
1992, May 22: Anthony Accardo dies.
1992, May 29: Anthony Accardo funeral. Per the Sun-Times, DiFronzo replaces Accardo and Carlisi is an adviser.
1992, Dec 15: Carlisi and ten other are charged with racketeering in Chicago. Sam Carlisi is arrested at O’Hare Airport and sent to MCC.
1992, Dec 24: A federal magistrate orders Carlisi, James Marcello, Anthony Zizzo, and Anthony Chiaramonti to remain at MCC until trial.
1993, Mar 17: DiFronzo is convicted of conspiracy, mail fraud and wire fraud. The jury deadlocked on all 12 charges against Carlisi, who was in a Chicago jail awaiting unrelated racketeering charges. Donald Angelini was also convicted.
1993, Mar 22: Federal prosecutors announced they would retry DiFronzo, Carlisi, and attorney Nicholas De Pento.
1993, May 25: DiFronzo and Angelini are sentenced to 37 months in federal prison.
1993, Dec 16: Federal grand jury finds Carlisi guilty of racketeering, gambling and loansharking.
1994, May: John Michael DiFronzo dies in Illinois.
1994, Jul 19: John DiFronzo is released from prison (BOP Inmate Locator).
1994, Nov 19: Bob Fuesel of the CCC says that DiFronzo is the underboss.
1995, Jan 29: The Illinois Police and Sheriff’s News asserts that the head of the Outfit is Joseph Lombardo, Joe Andriacchi his underboss, and DiFronzo the consigliere. The area bosses are Al Pilotto, James LaPietra, John Monteleone, Marco D’Amico, John Matassa, and Michael Posner.
1996, Dec 31: Carlisi is moved from his federal jail cell in Miami to a Dade County hospital.
1997, Jan 1: Carlisi, 75, dies one hour into the new year of a heart attack.
1997, Jan 12: Law enforcement agents say that John DiFronzo is at the top of the Outfit, but aloof from daily activities. Joe Andriacchi is the boss, John Monteleone the underboss, and below him is Anthony Centracchio.

[funkster]

Is John Spilotro still alive?

[Snakes]

Is John Spilotro still alive?

I believe he is.

[funkster]

Interesting. Not sure I realized there was yet another brother involved. As I’ve said before, I’m friendly with some of the family but randomly asking about one of their family members might be suspicious lol

Was his indictment part of the casino extortion?

[Snakes]

Interesting. Not sure I realized there was yet another brother involved. As I’ve said before, I’m friendly with some of the family but randomly asking about one of their family members might be suspicious lol

Was his indictment part of the casino extortion?

Yes, I think he lives in AZ now