ANDREW(MUSH)RUSSO HAS PASSED!!

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The positions are probably filled by guys we don’t know much about that got made in the 90s
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Never realised actually how weak the Colombo's are.
Pogo's chart lists 45 guys on the street. (Soldiers)
Out of them: ELEVEN are under 60 and THREE are under 50.
And those ages could be dated.
Majority of guys late 70's/80's.

The Colombo's could halve in size in the next 5 years. Then halve again the 5 after.
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Colombo’s always been something. One of the most violent families. Lot of killers. But also plagued by cooperators.

Like somebody said, admin prob some guys we don’t even know.

Teddy P was trying to get involved in tow truck biz before he was busted. He can’t stay out of jail for shit.
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Shellackhead wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:21 pm The positions are probably filled by guys we don’t know much about that got made in the 90s
Late 80s- early 00s when the books were reopened
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:54 pm Never realised actually how weak the Colombo's are.
Pogo's chart lists 45 guys on the street. (Soldiers)
Out of them: ELEVEN are under 60 and THREE are under 50.
And those ages could be dated.
Majority of guys late 70's/80's.

The Colombo's could halve in size in the next 5 years. Then halve again the 5 after.
I'm fascinated by this. Next decade or so is gonna be rough. The demographic situation for the mob is just terrible. Pogo says that 10% of the Gambinos died off in a year or so. And it's just beginning.
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the colombos made alot of guys in the 2000s they were still making guys in the last few years . theyll have no problems recruiting
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that guy joey damato was tape recording bring guys to a induction. in 2017
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Ivan wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:50 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:54 pm Never realised actually how weak the Colombo's are.
Pogo's chart lists 45 guys on the street. (Soldiers)
Out of them: ELEVEN are under 60 and THREE are under 50.
And those ages could be dated.
Majority of guys late 70's/80's.

The Colombo's could halve in size in the next 5 years. Then halve again the 5 after.
I'm fascinated by this. Next decade or so is gonna be rough. The demographic situation for the mob is just terrible. Pogo says that 10% of the Gambinos died off in a year or so. And it's just beginning.

Yeah some of the ages on the lists are a few years out of date.


You can see the demographic situation in this latest Colombo bust. Out of the 14 guys in the indictment only 2 are under the age of 50 and all 8 of the made members are senior citizens. The coming years will be interesting for sure with these guys dropping like flies.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:08 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:50 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:54 pm Never realised actually how weak the Colombo's are.
Pogo's chart lists 45 guys on the street. (Soldiers)
Out of them: ELEVEN are under 60 and THREE are under 50.
And those ages could be dated.
Majority of guys late 70's/80's.

The Colombo's could halve in size in the next 5 years. Then halve again the 5 after.
I'm fascinated by this. Next decade or so is gonna be rough. The demographic situation for the mob is just terrible. Pogo says that 10% of the Gambinos died off in a year or so. And it's just beginning.

Yeah some of the ages on the lists are a few years out of date.


You can see the demographic situation in this latest Colombo bust. Out of the 14 guys in the indictment only 2 are under the age of 50 and all 8 of the made members are senior citizens. The coming years will be interesting for sure with these guys dropping like flies.


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The colombos could easily find guys to make who are between the ages of 35 and 50 but i think the problem is they only make guys who are 100% loyal to the persico faction.The claw and Cacace probably have atleast 5 assiocites they know who are a good fit but will probably get knocked down because they arnt loyal to the persico clan.Also alot of younger guys wouldnt know the older guys personanly so that would work against them

The Colombos are not the same as the Gambinos and the westside.Those 2 are a well oiled machine where its so big where most of the guys dont know each other well so it doesnt matter who gets made and who does what.Where as the colombos are a small family who are run by a blood family and any person who comes in can potentially gain a following and cause a problem just like what happend in the 3rd colombos war
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She also seemed to allude to his connection to the underworld by saying her granddad missed the people who were “still away.”

“He always dreamed of the day he would sit around the table with his cousins and his friends and look at them and know they were finally free. Sadly he never got that chance,” she said.
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what would settle this entire succession discussion would be another Columbo interal war. Get rid of 15-20 guys youmentioned and it will be an entirely new slate of Boss- consigliere - underboss and capos. That's the answer and if we can just get someone to fire the first shot.....
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bluehouse wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:56 pm The colombos could easily find guys to make who are between the ages of 35 and 50 but i think the problem is they only make guys who are 100% loyal to the persico faction.The claw and Cacace probably have atleast 5 assiocites they know who are a good fit but will probably get knocked down because they arnt loyal to the persico clan.
No offense bro but you totally just made all that up.
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There's just not enough recruitment pool to maintain the kind of (apparently) street operation that those guys are running. If you look at the guys profiled on Pennisi's blog, guys that are being made nowadays are mostly people who can help a family make inroads into a legitimate/semi-legitimate business (services that seem to be based mostly around any kind of "real-estate" or territory, like vending back in the day attract half-assed entrepreneurs all around the world) and help others earn that way. They don't have to be gangsters, being a scumbag businessman is more than enough.

I think the Colombos still have Arrow Linen, bread routes and up until recently, some pull in the unions, but you'd need someone with marginal business sense to maintain and expand those rackets. Teddy doesn't seem like that kind of guy, unless they keep him as a figurehead, throw some cash his way in exchange of being allowed to operate freely. The other option is running a loan book out of a bar and earn 300$ a week.
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i wonder how much of a case they got against teddy p. hes dead on the violatons thats 2yrs.
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