Dom grande pleading to 7 years

[newera_212]

Used to be…been clean about a year now…nothing to fuck around with especially with all the fetanyl these days.

Same. I got about 4 months shy of 3 full years now. I used to be able to get a legit script but it turned into such a fucking problem, month after month it just got worse. I use to space out my appointments ever 60 days and was a model patient and it was still a fucking issue. On top of that if I ever had problems with my script or problems with the doctor I lived above two people who also had huge, legit scripts. One of them is dead now (take a guess how). That run is over. Not worth it with the bullshit on the street.

Frankly I'm not thrilled about sober life but I'm not dying over this bullshit either. I have a lot of opinions, experience, a lot to say about the "epidemic" topic especially when it concerns legit pain patients . Talk about a huge pain in the ass. Doctors send e-scripts now and if the pharmacy doesn't carry the medication (a lot don't anymore) that's a big slowdown. Some will have the medication but want a paper script to accompany the e-script. Then you bring the paper script in after a week of waiting and they say "oh the quantity needs to be written out like the numbers on a check; One Hundred and Twenty... not #120"). Any excuse they can give to not fill the prescription they will. I just said it's too much of a pain. I'm not doing this every other month. Then insurance is a whole other thing. The way I see it is that a lot has changed in the last 10 years, there is definitely NOT a prescription opiate epidemic anymore (there's a Chinese knockoff fentanyl epidemic) and that if you're in pain management legitimately now, you've been through the gauntlet already. In the last 10 years just about everywhere in the country they have weeded out the bad actor doctors and pill mills, and any legit doctor has weeded out bad patients. If you're in a program you're there for a reason. The PA and Doctor are capable of assessing everything - the pharmacy and insurance companies do not need to play god or act like they know more than the doctors. Another example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater for corporations to save face. Monday morning quarterbacking

Anyway, if there was real shit out there on the street I'd be jumping in with both feet...not going to lie, I love it for real... but it's not worth it with the fentanyl. Shit, even if it was real medical grade fentanyl I probably wouldn't mind... but these Chinese Analogues and Mexican horse shit they are loading these things up with...fuck that.

What ever happened to whiskey and weed?????

Don't like either

[Ivan]

Used to be…been clean about a year now…nothing to fuck around with especially with all the fetanyl these days.

Same. I got about 4 months shy of 3 full years now. I used to be able to get a legit script but it turned into such a fucking problem, month after month it just got worse. I use to space out my appointments ever 60 days and was a model patient and it was still a fucking issue. On top of that if I ever had problems with my script or problems with the doctor I lived above two people who also had huge, legit scripts. One of them is dead now (take a guess how). That run is over. Not worth it with the bullshit on the street.

Frankly I'm not thrilled about sober life but I'm not dying over this bullshit either. I have a lot of opinions, experience, a lot to say about the "epidemic" topic especially when it concerns legit pain patients . Talk about a huge pain in the ass. Doctors send e-scripts now and if the pharmacy doesn't carry the medication (a lot don't anymore) that's a big slowdown. Some will have the medication but want a paper script to accompany the e-script. Then you bring the paper script in after a week of waiting and they say "oh the quantity needs to be written out like the numbers on a check; One Hundred and Twenty... not #120"). Any excuse they can give to not fill the prescription they will. I just said it's too much of a pain. I'm not doing this every other month. Then insurance is a whole other thing. The way I see it is that a lot has changed in the last 10 years, there is definitely NOT a prescription opiate epidemic anymore (there's a Chinese knockoff fentanyl epidemic) and that if you're in pain management legitimately now, you've been through the gauntlet already. In the last 10 years just about everywhere in the country they have weeded out the bad actor doctors and pill mills, and any legit doctor has weeded out bad patients. If you're in a program you're there for a reason. The PA and Doctor are capable of assessing everything - the pharmacy and insurance companies do not need to play god or act like they know more than the doctors. Another example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater for corporations to save face. Monday morning quarterbacking

Anyway, if there was real shit out there on the street I'd be jumping in with both feet...not going to lie, I love it for real... but it's not worth it with the fentanyl. Shit, even if it was real medical grade fentanyl I probably wouldn't mind... but these Chinese Analogues and Mexican horse shit they are loading these things up with...fuck that.

What ever happened to whiskey and weed?????

Don't like either

Hangovers suck and marijuana is for kids.

Newera you ever mess around with kratom?

[AntComello]

Used to be…been clean about a year now…nothing to fuck around with especially with all the fetanyl these days.

Same. I got about 4 months shy of 3 full years now. I used to be able to get a legit script but it turned into such a fucking problem, month after month it just got worse. I use to space out my appointments ever 60 days and was a model patient and it was still a fucking issue. On top of that if I ever had problems with my script or problems with the doctor I lived above two people who also had huge, legit scripts. One of them is dead now (take a guess how). That run is over. Not worth it with the bullshit on the street.

Frankly I'm not thrilled about sober life but I'm not dying over this bullshit either. I have a lot of opinions, experience, a lot to say about the "epidemic" topic especially when it concerns legit pain patients . Talk about a huge pain in the ass. Doctors send e-scripts now and if the pharmacy doesn't carry the medication (a lot don't anymore) that's a big slowdown. Some will have the medication but want a paper script to accompany the e-script. Then you bring the paper script in after a week of waiting and they say "oh the quantity needs to be written out like the numbers on a check; One Hundred and Twenty... not #120"). Any excuse they can give to not fill the prescription they will. I just said it's too much of a pain. I'm not doing this every other month. Then insurance is a whole other thing. The way I see it is that a lot has changed in the last 10 years, there is definitely NOT a prescription opiate epidemic anymore (there's a Chinese knockoff fentanyl epidemic) and that if you're in pain management legitimately now, you've been through the gauntlet already. In the last 10 years just about everywhere in the country they have weeded out the bad actor doctors and pill mills, and any legit doctor has weeded out bad patients. If you're in a program you're there for a reason. The PA and Doctor are capable of assessing everything - the pharmacy and insurance companies do not need to play god or act like they know more than the doctors. Another example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater for corporations to save face. Monday morning quarterbacking

Anyway, if there was real shit out there on the street I'd be jumping in with both feet...not going to lie, I love it for real... but it's not worth it with the fentanyl. Shit, even if it was real medical grade fentanyl I probably wouldn't mind... but these Chinese Analogues and Mexican horse shit they are loading these things up with...fuck that.

Yea just not worth it bro. I still drink occasionally and smoke weed but I stay far away from the 30’s. Stay strong bro

[AntComello]

I don't know the specifics of this case but I do know enough to realize it probably wasn't Dom personally doling out pills - aftermarket or not. So if he has guys under him turning in money, and he may/may not know where it's really coming from, is it safe to paint him with the "death to fentanyl dealers" brush? If a guy under him is moving a ton of oxys anyone could only assume these days it's pressed garbage but Dom could have some plausible deniability here not really being in tune with the Opiate scene and not asking too many questions about where money is coming from

There are a lot of cases where the dealer should be held responsible for a lot more than simply selling drugs, like when this guys was on the phone (came out in the paper) talking about how great fentanyl is for business like a day after they found my friend, who copped from him, dead in a diner bathroom with a needle in his arm. Or those Hollywood delivery services that have killed a few celebs and there's records of customers texting them saying "the oxys are no good" etc...

I'm speculating big time and maybe over estimating him but I doubt Dom knows what all the different blues even look like and what they go for on the street. Someone's just dealing with it and turning in money, that's technically Dom's job is to be on the receiving end of that money and solve problems for the person doing the work should he ever encounter them . Not taking test strips to pills and saying "oh these might hurt someone" - however that breaks down legally ... conspiracy to sell drugs, whatever it is... is good enough for him IMO. The guy bets on sports and goes out to eat in the neighborhood with his friends on a nightly basis basically , I can't imagine him being too hands on and knowing that people are selling fentanyl under him.

Again I could be wrong, I haven't read much about the case at all. If I am, than fuck him I guess.

I get what your saying but they have dom on tape saying something along the lines of “I can move as many 30’s as you can get me” something along those lines

LOL - well that's that then . Good old Fentanyl Dom. What's crazy is that people are still selling these fake fentanyl 30s for 30 bucks lmao

Bro I know people buyin them for 35-40 the “good” ones are so strong I see guys nodding off after doing just one pill when if it was real 30’s you need a solid 4-5 depending on your tolerance level to get a good nod lol

You sound like a customer lmao

Used to be…been clean about a year now…nothing to fuck around with especially with all the fetanyl these days.

Yeah I lost many friends that way. Stay strong! That fet is no joke bro!

Thanks bro appreciate it

[Beatty]

I don't know the specifics of this case but I do know enough to realize it probably wasn't Dom personally doling out pills - aftermarket or not. So if he has guys under him turning in money, and he may/may not know where it's really coming from, is it safe to paint him with the "death to fentanyl dealers" brush? If a guy under him is moving a ton of oxys anyone could only assume these days it's pressed garbage but Dom could have some plausible deniability here not really being in tune with the Opiate scene and not asking too many questions about where money is coming from

There are a lot of cases where the dealer should be held responsible for a lot more than simply selling drugs, like when this guys was on the phone (came out in the paper) talking about how great fentanyl is for business like a day after they found my friend, who copped from him, dead in a diner bathroom with a needle in his arm. Or those Hollywood delivery services that have killed a few celebs and there's records of customers texting them saying "the oxys are no good" etc...

I'm speculating big time and maybe over estimating him but I doubt Dom knows what all the different blues even look like and what they go for on the street. Someone's just dealing with it and turning in money, that's technically Dom's job is to be on the receiving end of that money and solve problems for the person doing the work should he ever encounter them . Not taking test strips to pills and saying "oh these might hurt someone" - however that breaks down legally ... conspiracy to sell drugs, whatever it is... is good enough for him IMO. The guy bets on sports and goes out to eat in the neighborhood with his friends on a nightly basis basically , I can't imagine him being too hands on and knowing that people are selling fentanyl under him.

Again I could be wrong, I haven't read much about the case at all. If I am, than fuck him I guess.

I get what your saying but they have dom on tape saying something along the lines of “I can move as many 30’s as you can get me” something along those lines

LOL - well that's that then . Good old Fentanyl Dom. What's crazy is that people are still selling these fake fentanyl 30s for 30 bucks lmao

Bro I know people buyin them for 35-40 the “good” ones are so strong I see guys nodding off after doing just one pill when if it was real 30’s you need a solid 4-5 depending on your tolerance level to get a good nod lol

You sound like a customer lmao

Used to be…been clean about a year now…nothing to fuck around with especially with all the fetanyl these days.

Yeah I lost many friends that way. Stay strong! That fet is no joke bro!

Thanks bro appreciate it

Clean 10 years here it's worth it

[Stopflexing]

Used to be…been clean about a year now…nothing to fuck around with especially with all the fetanyl these days.

Same. I got about 4 months shy of 3 full years now. I used to be able to get a legit script but it turned into such a fucking problem, month after month it just got worse. I use to space out my appointments ever 60 days and was a model patient and it was still a fucking issue. On top of that if I ever had problems with my script or problems with the doctor I lived above two people who also had huge, legit scripts. One of them is dead now (take a guess how). That run is over. Not worth it with the bullshit on the street.

Frankly I'm not thrilled about sober life but I'm not dying over this bullshit either. I have a lot of opinions, experience, a lot to say about the "epidemic" topic especially when it concerns legit pain patients . Talk about a huge pain in the ass. Doctors send e-scripts now and if the pharmacy doesn't carry the medication (a lot don't anymore) that's a big slowdown. Some will have the medication but want a paper script to accompany the e-script. Then you bring the paper script in after a week of waiting and they say "oh the quantity needs to be written out like the numbers on a check; One Hundred and Twenty... not #120"). Any excuse they can give to not fill the prescription they will. I just said it's too much of a pain. I'm not doing this every other month. Then insurance is a whole other thing. The way I see it is that a lot has changed in the last 10 years, there is definitely NOT a prescription opiate epidemic anymore (there's a Chinese knockoff fentanyl epidemic) and that if you're in pain management legitimately now, you've been through the gauntlet already. In the last 10 years just about everywhere in the country they have weeded out the bad actor doctors and pill mills, and any legit doctor has weeded out bad patients. If you're in a program you're there for a reason. The PA and Doctor are capable of assessing everything - the pharmacy and insurance companies do not need to play god or act like they know more than the doctors. Another example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater for corporations to save face. Monday morning quarterbacking

Anyway, if there was real shit out there on the street I'd be jumping in with both feet...not going to lie, I love it for real... but it's not worth it with the fentanyl. Shit, even if it was real medical grade fentanyl I probably wouldn't mind... but these Chinese Analogues and Mexican horse shit they are loading these things up with...fuck that.

What ever happened to whiskey and weed?????

Don't like either

Hangovers suck and marijuana is for kids.

Newera you ever mess around with kratom?

I know I wasn’t asked but I been messing with Kratom Bali strand for the past few months. Good stuff, only a matter of time until the government makes it illegal

[Ivan]

I know I wasn’t asked but I been messing with Kratom Bali strand for the past few months. Good stuff, only a matter of time until the government makes it illegal

It's interesting and fun but don't get hooked on it. It's not anywhere near as harmless as its fans make it out to be.

Beats the hell out of rolling the dice with fentanyl though. They put that shit even in street marijuana sometimes now.

Nevada where I live passed some kind of "kratom consumer protection act" that regulates over the counter kratom and tries to make sure no one does anything evil with it.

[Cheech]

Used to be…been clean about a year now…nothing to fuck around with especially with all the fetanyl these days.

Same. I got about 4 months shy of 3 full years now. I used to be able to get a legit script but it turned into such a fucking problem, month after month it just got worse. I use to space out my appointments ever 60 days and was a model patient and it was still a fucking issue. On top of that if I ever had problems with my script or problems with the doctor I lived above two people who also had huge, legit scripts. One of them is dead now (take a guess how). That run is over. Not worth it with the bullshit on the street.

Frankly I'm not thrilled about sober life but I'm not dying over this bullshit either. I have a lot of opinions, experience, a lot to say about the "epidemic" topic especially when it concerns legit pain patients . Talk about a huge pain in the ass. Doctors send e-scripts now and if the pharmacy doesn't carry the medication (a lot don't anymore) that's a big slowdown. Some will have the medication but want a paper script to accompany the e-script. Then you bring the paper script in after a week of waiting and they say "oh the quantity needs to be written out like the numbers on a check; One Hundred and Twenty... not #120"). Any excuse they can give to not fill the prescription they will. I just said it's too much of a pain. I'm not doing this every other month. Then insurance is a whole other thing. The way I see it is that a lot has changed in the last 10 years, there is definitely NOT a prescription opiate epidemic anymore (there's a Chinese knockoff fentanyl epidemic) and that if you're in pain management legitimately now, you've been through the gauntlet already. In the last 10 years just about everywhere in the country they have weeded out the bad actor doctors and pill mills, and any legit doctor has weeded out bad patients. If you're in a program you're there for a reason. The PA and Doctor are capable of assessing everything - the pharmacy and insurance companies do not need to play god or act like they know more than the doctors. Another example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater for corporations to save face. Monday morning quarterbacking

Anyway, if there was real shit out there on the street I'd be jumping in with both feet...not going to lie, I love it for real... but it's not worth it with the fentanyl. Shit, even if it was real medical grade fentanyl I probably wouldn't mind... but these Chinese Analogues and Mexican horse shit they are loading these things up with...fuck that.

Its 100% not worth it nowadays. Not even coke. I wont party a nymore.
You just sweat it out?

[Stopflexing]

I know I wasn’t asked but I been messing with Kratom Bali strand for the past few months. Good stuff, only a matter of time until the government makes it illegal

It's interesting and fun but don't get hooked on it. It's not anywhere near as harmless as its fans make it out to be.

Beats the hell out of rolling the dice with fentanyl though. They put that shit even in street marijuana sometimes now.

Nevada where I live passed some kind of "kratom consumer protection act" that regulates over the counter kratom and tries to make sure no one does anything evil with it.

I don’t get blasted off it by any means. I take a few capsules during the day and get a very very mild buzz

[B.]

Kratom is good for workouts. There are energetic strains and sedative ones, never had any interest in opiates (thankfully) so it never appealed to me in that way. Feels great to lift weights or run with it. Never been able to use it too regularly except in phases because that powder is nasty and dries you out.

[newera_212]

I know I wasn’t asked but I been messing with Kratom Bali strand for the past few months. Good stuff, only a matter of time until the government makes it illegal

It's interesting and fun but don't get hooked on it. It's not anywhere near as harmless as its fans make it out to be.

Beats the hell out of rolling the dice with fentanyl though. They put that shit even in street marijuana sometimes now.

Nevada where I live passed some kind of "kratom consumer protection act" that regulates over the counter kratom and tries to make sure no one does anything evil with it.

Yeah I have - I said in my last post even though it's been 3 years, I'm still not a big fan of sober life... so Kratom helps take care of cravings when I get them once in a while. I'm glad it's around and I think it's safe, but I also don't buy the "it's safe as a cup of coffee" narrative that was going around. I think it's still possible to get strung out on it and people need to be careful.

I don't know if it'll ever be made illegal or scheduled. That's been floating around for like 10 years. About 5 years ago the rumor was that it was going to be scheduled because Big Pharma were working to isolate the alkaloids of the plant and turn the active ingredients into another (opioid like) pill to sell/market. I think "they" (I don't know specifically who... the FDA, DEA, etc) had a meeting to talk about scheduling it, but they opened up comments to the general public and thousands of people wrote in with their stories and it actually helped

[Cheech]

newera, how did you kick it? just sweated it out?

[AntComello]

newera, how did you kick it? just sweated it out?

I know your not talking to me but I tried just sweating it out 10000000x lol never could make it so I used subs as a crutch to get my mind out of the addict lifestyle (waking up and copping everyday) did that for 2 years abs just slowly got myself down on the subs till I was off it. Still wasn’t easy but way easier IMO then coke turkey

[AntComello]

Cold turkey *

[Ivan]

I know I wasn’t asked but I been messing with Kratom Bali strand for the past few months. Good stuff, only a matter of time until the government makes it illegal

It's interesting and fun but don't get hooked on it. It's not anywhere near as harmless as its fans make it out to be.

Beats the hell out of rolling the dice with fentanyl though. They put that shit even in street marijuana sometimes now.

Nevada where I live passed some kind of "kratom consumer protection act" that regulates over the counter kratom and tries to make sure no one does anything evil with it.

Yeah I have - I said in my last post even though it's been 3 years, I'm still not a big fan of sober life... so Kratom helps take care of cravings when I get them once in a while. I'm glad it's around and I think it's safe, but I also don't buy the "it's safe as a cup of coffee" narrative that was going around. I think it's still possible to get strung out on it and people need to be careful.

Oh yeah. If you actually get physically hooked on it, quitting cold turkey is like withdrawing from a codeine addiction, plus a stimulant and like five different antidepressants, all at the same time. Not as bad as getting off smack obviously but really, really unpleasant. I've been through it haha. Check out the "Quitting Kratom" Reddit for some real horror stories.