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davidf1989 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:37 am
Thanks for your recent message and did Fratianno flip because he thought Brooklier and Rizzitello wanted to kill him?
Jimmy had been providing information to the FBI for about a decade. They came to him in 76 or 77 and told him a contract had been placed on his head. At first he was unconcerned, not thinking that LA could pull off a hit on him. He started getting calls from Mike Rizzi, then Marshall Caifano of Chicago., trying to set up meetings. People in New York who he had paled around with a year before wouldn't talk to him. When he saw that it was pointless to try to outrun the mob he became a government witness. An interesting fellow.
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Thanks, Costigian for your latest message and did Louis Tom Dragna break the code of omerta? The article below says that he and an FBI agent talked about the crime family.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/9546465 ... les-times/
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Was Mike Rizzitello the only person not to break omerta in the crime family? Many of his associates in the crime family such as Fratianno, Bompensiero, and Piscopo were informants or government witnesses

I found this interesting article on Reddit about his background and I found it interesting so I put the link below.

https://silverscreenwiseguys.wordpress. ... ter-in-la/
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davidf1989 wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:34 pm Was Mike Rizzitello the only person not to break omerta in the crime family? Many of his associates in the crime family such as Fratianno, Bompensiero, and Piscopo were informants or government witnesses

I found this interesting article on Reddit about his background and I found it interesting so I put the link below.

https://silverscreenwiseguys.wordpress. ... ter-in-la/
I'm glad that you found my blog interesting, I tried to sort of summarize Rizzitello's career.

Unfortunately for him, he had a knack for associating with CIs, like the aforementioned Fratianno and then later with Anthony Fiato. He was not the only family member to remain silent, look to Pete Milano, Louie Gelfuso, Louie Caruso, Jack Lo Cicero, the Caci brothers, etc. as examples but out of Fratianno's circle, he was notably not as treacherous as Jimmy, Bompensiero and Piscopo.
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JoePuzzles234 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:54 pm
davidf1989 wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:34 pm Was Mike Rizzitello the only person not to break omerta in the crime family? Many of his associates in the crime family such as Fratianno, Bompensiero, and Piscopo were informants or government witnesses

I found this interesting article on Reddit about his background and I found it interesting so I put the link below.

https://silverscreenwiseguys.wordpress. ... ter-in-la/
I'm glad that you found my blog interesting, I tried to sort of summarize Rizzitello's career.

Unfortunately for him, he had a knack for associating with CIs, like the aforementioned Fratianno and then later with Anthony Fiato. He was not the only family member to remain silent, look to Pete Milano, Louie Gelfuso, Louie Caruso, Jack Lo Cicero, the Caci brothers, etc. as examples but out of Fratianno's circle, he was notably not as treacherous as Jimmy, Bompensiero and Piscopo.
Thanks for your recent reply about Rizzitello.

Did Louis Tom Dragna the nephew of Jack Dragna break Omerta? I think that he had a conversation with a fbi agent about the crime family.
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davidf1989 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:02 pm
JoePuzzles234 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:54 pm
davidf1989 wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:34 pm Was Mike Rizzitello the only person not to break omerta in the crime family? Many of his associates in the crime family such as Fratianno, Bompensiero, and Piscopo were informants or government witnesses

I found this interesting article on Reddit about his background and I found it interesting so I put the link below.

https://silverscreenwiseguys.wordpress. ... ter-in-la/
I'm glad that you found my blog interesting, I tried to sort of summarize Rizzitello's career.

Unfortunately for him, he had a knack for associating with CIs, like the aforementioned Fratianno and then later with Anthony Fiato. He was not the only family member to remain silent, look to Pete Milano, Louie Gelfuso, Louie Caruso, Jack Lo Cicero, the Caci brothers, etc. as examples but out of Fratianno's circle, he was notably not as treacherous as Jimmy, Bompensiero and Piscopo.
Thanks for your recent reply about Rizzitello.

Did Louis Tom Dragna the nephew of Jack Dragna break Omerta? I think that he had a conversation with a fbi agent about the crime family.
That is my understanding of the situation as well, Louis Dragna spoke to an FBI agent and admitted to being the acting boss while also identifying others as members. It looks like he only spoke to the FBI once though did consider becoming a full fledged CI.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1980/10/24 ... 882960013/ - this article is a shorter version of the link you previously posted, which seems to confirm that Louis Dragna did break his oath
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Thanks for your recent message and did Louis Tom Dragna offer up information to avoid being arrested with Brooklier and the others?

Fratianno mentions in his books that Louis Tom Dragna was a reluctant member of the mob?
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Could Louie Dragna have been shelved by the mob once it came to light that he broke his oath of omerta? This article suggests that he died peacefully at the age of 92 in 2012.

https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/commen ... notoriety/
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davidf1989 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:39 pm Thanks for your recent message and did Louis Tom Dragna offer up information to avoid being arrested with Brooklier and the others?

Fratianno mentions in his books that Louis Tom Dragna was a reluctant member of the mob?
His meeting with the FBI took place in October of 1976, a couple of years before he was indicted for Bompensiero's murder after Fratianno outright cooperated, so it does not seem like he gave up information to avoid being arrested. As for him being a reluctant member, I think Fratianno said he was more interested in running his manufacturing business than running the family, despite Brooklier appointing him to acting boss.
davidf1989 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:31 pm Could Louie Dragna have been shelved by the mob once it came to light that he broke his oath of omerta? This article suggests that he died peacefully at the age of 92 in 2012.

https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/commen ... notoriety/
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html
This article mentions that Pete Milano intended to have Dragna killed over him being an informant but that did not ever end up happening, so he probably was shelved in some sense.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Was Rizzitello the mentor for the Fiato brothers? Anthony Fiato's book mentions that they did work together.

Was Rizzitello one of the conspirators in the Bompensiero hit?
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davidf1989 wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:08 pm Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Was Rizzitello the mentor for the Fiato brothers? Anthony Fiato's book mentions that they did work together.

Was Rizzitello one of the conspirators in the Bompensiero hit?
I've never been able to get a copy of Fiato's book but from what I understand, Rizzitello was close with Anthony Fiato, at least based off the extracts I've seen about the "Rizzitello family". As for Bompensiero, Rizzitello worked with Thomas Ricciardi and Jack Lo Cicero, plus the involvement with Forex, probably making him a conspirator, though I don't think he has ever been directly tied to the murder
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Thanks for your message and in case you are interested. Here is a link to an online copy of Fiato's book below.

https://archive.org/details/animalinhollywoo0000smit

He talks about his days growing up in Boston and meeting the mobsters there before moving to Los Angeles.
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https://adamsgreen.com/tribute/details/ ... tuary.html

Another out of date orbituary, this time of soldier/associate Vince „Lupo” Arcuri. I’m assuming that’s the right guy, since the age and last name matches the one mentioned in the Las Vegas Sun article https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/1998/feb ... n-slaying/
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sisterray wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:10 pm https://adamsgreen.com/tribute/details/ ... tuary.html

Another out of date orbituary, this time of soldier/associate Vince „Lupo” Arcuri. I’m assuming that’s the right guy, since the age and last name matches the one mentioned in the Las Vegas Sun article https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/1998/feb ... n-slaying/
Ed Iantuono, mentioned in that 2nd article, was fatally hit by a car in 2016-

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/loc ... rning-idd/
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Does the L.A crime family still exist?
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