CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:41 am
calabrianwatch wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:27 am
I just caught up with all this. Thanks a ton.
To clarify from my side of things, neither Scoppa nor Miriachi nor Scarfo (which should be Scarfò) are ndrangheta no matter what they say. That there is a Calabrian faction in montreal doesn’t mean there is ndrangheta. The feud that happened in the ndrangheta between figliomeni and coluccio which confirmed that siderno rules, did exactly that, reaffirm that the crimine in Canada is Siderno based
As for the Bonavota - even if the locale was apparently “approved” in 2012 it is surely not the important thing. The Bonavotas as a Ndrina have existed for decades and they have kind of always been around in the Vibo area a bit later than the Mancuso and often in feud. Since the 80s. They were not such a big deal, always been very local, with some projection in the area around Torino and “basic” organised crime stuff. They have family in Canada, in GTA and therefore they have attempted to connect (drug wise) with the locals. They are called ndrangheta but they never really were, the fact that the locale was formed in 2012 is important because in that period the new “crimine” of Vibo under Luigi Mancuso just out of jail was trying to reform and become “orderly”. They have been working with the Alvaro, the Ursino, the Commisso and the Morabito. So they are well connected with those who are in Canada.
I know that Calabrian from Vibo (could be Bonavota but I am not sure.. I am still researching) were involved with the Caputo brothers at some stage and with Commisso for drugs. Also close to Iavarone at some point. So they could be the Bonavota. In any case I wouldn’t think they are such a big change for GTA, GTA ndrangheta wise is Siderno and Commisso. But more importantly, this has not much to do with Montreal.
Have you seen this one as well?
https://www.cosanostranews.com/2021/11/ ... o.html?m=1
Yes I have! But I also have the files of Rinascita Scott in front of me as we speak (and in the past weeks) so I have less faith in this reconstruction. Yes, Arena and Mantella place a locale by the Bonavota near Toronto. But no-one says that they work outside of the Crimine of Siderno there. Actually, two things/scenario.
1) regardless of when they were recognised, it depends also by whom. The Bonavota were starting to think to join the provincia of Crotone under Grandi Aracri, but we have no reason to believe that they did. This means that they were still trying to remain under Reggio/Polsi via the main group, Mancuso. Their relationship with the Mancuso (Luigi, not Luni) was definitely improving. When the big operation against them happened in 2016 they were actually 'respecting' Luigi. In this scenario, their family in Toronto would have worked as a locale within the main Toronto 'ndrangheta Crimine, which remains in the hands of Siderno.
2) They did indeed switch towards Crotone and therefore less linked to Reggio. This could mean that also in Canada they were acting alone, without too much connections to anyone, which essentially means they were no-one.
Now, the RCMP knows about the Bonavota, and about the fact that when somebody in Toronto, from the Bonavota family, died, the Commisso and others went to the funeral out of respect. This could indicate that we are in scenario 1. In any case, don't forget that however reliable Arena and Mantella can be what they know is hearsay. When these people talk about 'locale' abroad they generally mean that there are some people from the family/ndrina there, but this doesn't mean the full-blown locale. It means that the 'ndrina has another 'place' (the literal meaning of locale).
Nevertheless, it is important to notice that also in GTA the ruling of Siderno is made of many different groups, from Reggio and outside.