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SolarSolano wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:36 am Have you guys seen this footage of Joey Lombardo being followed by a camera man then essentially using a bunch of random people to get away from said cameraman? That is really incredible - I have to believe Joey went to these people flashing money saying hey I need a favor. Really incredible footage of a guy I've only heard talk previously on wiretaps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2tlSp3l00g
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Joey loved the people and the people loved Joey. He was a charismatic guy. Also, I’m sure he was more comfortable around blacks than some other Outfit guys might have been. His daughter went to school with a bunch of black kids and he used to go to a politically connected soul food restaurant by “Catfish Corner” (Madison and California).

You gotta love the look of pure death that Joey shoots at the camera guys when the lady asks them “who is he??”, lol.
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lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
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funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:35 pm lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
Anything interesting, or is it cornball?
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PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:07 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:35 pm lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
Anything interesting, or is it cornball?
Eh, it's fun for me cause I live in the neighborhood and they go to some spots...Cozzo compound..mention Burger Baron rumors of being funded by GAC guys. Mike is an odd dude...either he's a methy type or just naturally hyper.
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funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:32 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:07 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:35 pm lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
Anything interesting, or is it cornball?
Eh, it's fun for me cause I live in the neighborhood and they go to some spots...Cozzo compound..mention Burger Baron rumors of being funded by GAC guys. Mike is an odd dude...either he's a methy type or just naturally hyper.
I had a good friend as a kid who worked at Burger Baron. He’s not able to provide insight beyond what everyone in the neighborhood already knew, that it was super mobbed up. He saw tons of guys that he describes as “mobsters” there all the time, but has no idea who any of them were. He says he didn’t ask any questions lol. He had one Italian dude put a gun to his head once as a kid (he’s PR) for basically nothing, so he didn’t stick his nose in.
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PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:41 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:32 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:07 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:35 pm lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
Anything interesting, or is it cornball?
Eh, it's fun for me cause I live in the neighborhood and they go to some spots...Cozzo compound..mention Burger Baron rumors of being funded by GAC guys. Mike is an odd dude...either he's a methy type or just naturally hyper.
I had a good friend as a kid who worked at Burger Baron. He’s not able to provide insight beyond what everyone in the neighborhood already knew, that it was super mobbed up. He saw tons of guys that he describes as “mobsters” there all the time, but has no idea who any of them were. He says he didn’t ask any questions lol. He had one Italian dude put a gun to his head once as a kid (he’s PR) for basically nothing, so he didn’t stick his nose in.
I know a guy who is friends with the "official" owners, says they are a greek family and he doubts they're mobbed up. Of course, that means squat lol.

What years was he working there?
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funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:49 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:41 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:32 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:07 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:35 pm lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
Anything interesting, or is it cornball?
Eh, it's fun for me cause I live in the neighborhood and they go to some spots...Cozzo compound..mention Burger Baron rumors of being funded by GAC guys. Mike is an odd dude...either he's a methy type or just naturally hyper.
I had a good friend as a kid who worked at Burger Baron. He’s not able to provide insight beyond what everyone in the neighborhood already knew, that it was super mobbed up. He saw tons of guys that he describes as “mobsters” there all the time, but has no idea who any of them were. He says he didn’t ask any questions lol. He had one Italian dude put a gun to his head once as a kid (he’s PR) for basically nothing, so he didn’t stick his nose in.
I know a guy who is friends with the "official" owners, says they are a greek family and he doubts they're mobbed up. Of course, that means squat lol.

What years was he working there?
90s. Things were a bit different in the Patch back then, lol.
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Surprised he didnt take them by HSAC.
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funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:53 pm Surprised he didnt take them by HSAC.
You think he would. Not that long ago that you’d have to be out of your mind to show up in front of HSAC with a camera.
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PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:41 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:32 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:07 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:35 pm lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
Anything interesting, or is it cornball?
Eh, it's fun for me cause I live in the neighborhood and they go to some spots...Cozzo compound..mention Burger Baron rumors of being funded by GAC guys. Mike is an odd dude...either he's a methy type or just naturally hyper.
I had a good friend as a kid who worked at Burger Baron. He’s not able to provide insight beyond what everyone in the neighborhood already knew, that it was super mobbed up. He saw tons of guys that he describes as “mobsters” there all the time, but has no idea who any of them were. He says he didn’t ask any questions lol. He had one Italian dude put a gun to his head once as a kid (he’s PR) for basically nothing, so he didn’t stick his nose in.
There were a ton of fights at Burger Baron in the 1980s. I have a cousin who was actually involved in this one - Michael Catanese was the younger brother of Orlando Catanese, who was a North Side guy. My cousin was not a gang guy just a massive coke guy :lol: I gotta assume these were CNotes.

https://casetext.com/case/people-v-vera-34
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SolarSolano wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:52 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:41 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:32 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:07 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:35 pm lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
Anything interesting, or is it cornball?
Eh, it's fun for me cause I live in the neighborhood and they go to some spots...Cozzo compound..mention Burger Baron rumors of being funded by GAC guys. Mike is an odd dude...either he's a methy type or just naturally hyper.
I had a good friend as a kid who worked at Burger Baron. He’s not able to provide insight beyond what everyone in the neighborhood already knew, that it was super mobbed up. He saw tons of guys that he describes as “mobsters” there all the time, but has no idea who any of them were. He says he didn’t ask any questions lol. He had one Italian dude put a gun to his head once as a kid (he’s PR) for basically nothing, so he didn’t stick his nose in.
There were a ton of fights at Burger Baron in the 1980s. I have a cousin who was actually involved in this one - Michael Catanese was the younger brother of Orlando Catanese, who was a North Side guy. My cousin was not a gang guy just a massive coke guy :lol: I gotta assume these were CNotes.

https://casetext.com/case/people-v-vera-34
Yeah, it was still a very rough area then. Grand and Noble was never C-Notes territory, so far as I know, though they would go over there. Used to be GLs back in the days, but by the 80s/90s it was PR gangs -- MLDs on Erie and Wood, SDs, and the Milwaukee Kings chapter on Huron and Noble, a couple blocks up from Burger Baron. Those MKs were small but very vicious. I had a friend as a kid who was an MK from Noble who got sent away for murder. The Mexican dudes in this case may have been affiliated with one of the above (though they were more PR), who knows. Grand and Noble itself was sort of "off-limits" to gangbangers, as that whole strip was known to be controlled by the mob and generally, you didn't mess around on Grand itself over there.

Orlando Catanese, who was he with?

EDIT: I see that in the 80s Orlando Catanese was noted as a porn guy who was suspected to take over Mike Glitta's interests in that sector.
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PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:03 pm
SolarSolano wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:52 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:41 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:32 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:07 pm
funkster wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:35 pm lmao dont know if anyone remembers me saying i was driving down Grand a few months ago and saw Byrne outside of the boomerang filming with someone, looks like it was Gary Jenkins....he posted the video this morning.
Anything interesting, or is it cornball?
Eh, it's fun for me cause I live in the neighborhood and they go to some spots...Cozzo compound..mention Burger Baron rumors of being funded by GAC guys. Mike is an odd dude...either he's a methy type or just naturally hyper.
I had a good friend as a kid who worked at Burger Baron. He’s not able to provide insight beyond what everyone in the neighborhood already knew, that it was super mobbed up. He saw tons of guys that he describes as “mobsters” there all the time, but has no idea who any of them were. He says he didn’t ask any questions lol. He had one Italian dude put a gun to his head once as a kid (he’s PR) for basically nothing, so he didn’t stick his nose in.
There were a ton of fights at Burger Baron in the 1980s. I have a cousin who was actually involved in this one - Michael Catanese was the younger brother of Orlando Catanese, who was a North Side guy. My cousin was not a gang guy just a massive coke guy :lol: I gotta assume these were CNotes.

https://casetext.com/case/people-v-vera-34
Yeah, it was still a very rough area then. Grand and Noble was never C-Notes territory, so far as I know, though they would go over there. Used to be GLs back in the days, but by the 80s/90s it was PR gangs -- MLDs on Erie and Wood, SDs, and the Milwaukee Kings chapter on Huron and Noble, a couple blocks up from Burger Baron. Those MKs were small but very vicious. I had a friend as a kid who was an MK from Noble who got sent away for murder. The Mexican dudes in this case may have been affiliated with one of the above (though they were more PR), who knows. Grand and Noble itself was sort of "off-limits" to gangbangers, as that whole strip was known to be controlled by the mob and generally, you didn't mess around on Grand itself over there.

Orlando Catanese, who was he with?

EDIT: I see that in the 80s Orlando Catanese was noted as a porn guy who was suspected to take over Mike Glitta's interests in that sector.
I also note that back in the 50s Orlando Cataneses's grandfather, also named Orlando Catanese, was arrested as part of a theft ring.
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Orlando Catanese also has an honorary street name in the gold coast or streeterville if i am not mistaken - a porn boss and I guarantee you its still there today. Love Chicago.
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SolarSolano wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:47 pm Orlando Catanese also has an honorary street name in the gold coast or streeterville if i am not mistaken - a porn boss and I guarantee you its still there today. Love Chicago.
Yeah I saw that, lol. Not sure which street though.

Also, I would imagine based on his name that this Franceschetti kid was either from Italy or his parents were — Napolitan’, if I had to bet. In the Hagedorn book, he has “Sal Martino” talking about an important C-Note in the 90s who was born in Italy. The book calls him Dominic, but I don’t know if that was his real name.
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Saw The Paul Carparelli wiretaps very interesting https://youtu.be/2Ry5yYQwW90

Not familiar with this case but Paul constantly references “Other guys that want results”. Also mentions a guy named “Tony” giving work
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