Gambino 1960's Chart (in progress)

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I really like what you’ve done with the maps and pie charts- let alone everything else. When you see all the members laid out, it makes you really appreciate the scale of the family.
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Hey Christie great job with the chart must of been a labour of love cant wait to see it in high res once its complete.
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bronx wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:33 pm def brothers, paul was shopsteward for local 23 for decades, robbie was shylock forever had a place in pompano fl..went back and forth a lot, robbie was at pauls club all the time . brother paul on sundays. pretty sure with jimmy brown but not 100 percent
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HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:46 am Ignatius DiBella (Feb 12, 1922)
Paul DiBella (March 1, 1920)
Bronx is correct that Robby is Paul's brother, not his AKA. The 1940 census lists a match of two bros (posted above) which lists Robby as born in 1922 (not 1925) but I'm having issues locating him. Robby does match Ignazio's DOB which means it could possibly be him but I'm not certain.
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Trying to look up a Joseph Franco that I have listed as being born in 1910. There's just too many people with that name. But I did come across one born in Lercara Friddi 1911 with one witness being Salvatore Lucania, barber, 1840 3rd Ave. Is that Charley Lucky? Even if so, I don't know if this is the right Joseph Franco but it's still interesting.
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That Salvatore Lucania could have been a cousin of Lucky Luciano, but it wasn't him. This one was born October 12, 1878, in Lercara. Charlie Lucky was born in 1897 and, as far as I know, never worked as a barber. Interesting coincidence though.
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This HAS to be the right Joseph Franco and if so, his parents are from Sarno, Salerno which was where the Mancusos and Squillantes came from. This Franco is unrelated to the Francos from Agrigento.
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HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:19 am
A possible YOB for Frank Castellana is 1895.
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Match?
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Chris Christie wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:58 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:46 am Ignatius DiBella (Feb 12, 1922)
Paul DiBella (March 1, 1920)
Bronx is correct that Robby is Paul's brother, not his AKA. The 1940 census lists a match of two bros (posted above) which lists Robby as born in 1922 (not 1925) but I'm having issues locating him. Robby does match Ignazio's DOB which means it could possibly be him but I'm not certain.
From SSDI:

Name: Ignatius Debella
State of Issue: New York
Date of Birth: Sunday February 12, 1922
Date of Death: Saturday May 21, 2011
Est. Age at Death: 89 years, 3 months, 9 days
Confirmation: Proven
Last known residence:
City: Staten Island

Yes, they were brothers. Ignatius must have had "Robby" as a nickname. Their father´s name was Anthony (possibly Antonio).
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Chris Christie wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:01 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:19 am
A possible YOB for Frank Castellana is 1895.
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Match?
If this guy had a son named Peter or Pete or Pietro, then it´s most likely a match.
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Found him. Peter married a Gugielmini which connects that family, his father was Francesco, DOB: c. 1895 who died in 1948. Does that sound right?

Last guy is Joe Ox, what town in Sicily does his people hail from? Maybe B. or Bronx knows?

Once that is covered, I'll add "no photos" to the guys (200 or so) that we don't have photos of, send it over to Michael DiLeonardo who may be able to correct some of it. Same goes for the 80's which is wrapping up. Once he gives it his christening I'll post it.

This isn't just a chart, alot of work and research went into it. If Soliai wants I can do a heavily watermarked copy for release (smaller res) here and it could be sold on a Black Hand Store as a higher res poster. I don't need the money or even a percentage, it all can go into furthering this "forum of ours" but I will use my real name and I would like the credit for the work that went into it on my end alongside the others. Up to you, Soliai.
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Chris Christie wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:46 am Found him. Peter married a Gugielmini which connects that family, his father was Francesco, DOB: c. 1895 who died in 1948. Does that sound right?
1948 or 1958?
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1948.
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Chris Christie wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:48 am 1948.

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Ok. Is this from a reputable source? If so, it´s intreresting, because that could mean Paul Castellano was a skipper already in 1948. If memory serves, I have seen info that Paul took over from Frank Castellana.
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