Vic Amuso is not as bad as he is portrayed to be

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Bumping this thread because Jimmy Colandra posted a new video today telling a story about the Pappadio brother murders and the Lucchese family. I think this came from one of his 'guests' or one of those people that calls into his live streams claiming to be related to the Pappadios - but anyway, Colandra tells the story of how both of the Pappadios were heavy hitters in their own right but eventually got set up and killed by the respective administrations of the Lucchese family in the 70s and 80s.

Michael Pappadio's murder in 88 or 89 was ordered by Amuso and was always painted as this greedy power play where Amuso wanted to horde all of the profits of Pappadio's rackets for himself. When you hear the story of how Pappadio was lured into a meeting and savagely beaten and shot in the head, you think wow how horrible... what a greedy fuck that Amuso was. But I think it's easy to forget that Pappadio was a arch criminal himself, "his" rackets were perpetuated by the fact that he had the Lucchese family behind him and the generations before him had paved the way in the Garment Center, allowing him to operate there. The transition of power between Corralo and Amuso wasn't really smooth at all... I'm guessing that a lot of Capos just bided their time and weren't paying what they should have been, if anything at all. Waiting to see where the chips fell, and when they finally did fall in Brooklyn, they weren't kicking up what they were in the past. An Administration shift is a great opportunity to hide rackets, "cook the books" and reset the clock. When you think about it like this, Amuso seems like less of a greedy tyrant and more like a typical mob boss - I think any boss would have done what he did, if they encountered members of the organization thinking they weren't going to pay their fair share, thinking they were going to get over on the new admin and hide money. There were probably a lot of old greedy bastards who saw Amuso as a kid and thought they weren't going to pay him, and Amuso was forced to make examples out of them

Pappadio was given multiple opportunities by Vic to stay out of the garment centre.He didn’t listen so Al D’Arco was sent to deliver the message and once again, Pappadio didn’t listen.He was attacked by D’Arco with a pipe and then George Zappola shot him in the head

Exactly. D'Arco's book gives a little bit more of an objective view of the situation but it was still leaning towards Amuso and Casso simply seeing dollar signs and wanting to take over the whole thing for themselves. Calandra's video recap said the same thing - greed, jealously, etc. - but Pappadio was probably doing whatever he wanted in the Garment Center for years and a lot got lost in translation during the admin change. Amuso asked for accounting, it was found to be off, they asked for reconciliation, that never happened - so they told the guy to retire and enjoy his life and they were putting someone else in there. He didn't listen multiple times and ended up dying (a horrible violent death). They paint Amuso as this raving mad man who was just killing everybody, but I think any boss would have done what he did in this situation. I mean even Gotti had a really big earner and long time member in good standing killed because the guy refused to meet with him . Pretty similar situation here

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Bumping this thread because Jimmy Colandra posted a new video today telling a story about the Pappadio brother murders and the Lucchese family. I think this came from one of his 'guests' or one of those people that calls into his live streams claiming to be related to the Pappadios - but anyway, Colandra tells the story of how both of the Pappadios were heavy hitters in their own right but eventually got set up and killed by the respective administrations of the Lucchese family in the 70s and 80s.

Michael Pappadio's murder in 88 or 89 was ordered by Amuso and was always painted as this greedy power play where Amuso wanted to horde all of the profits of Pappadio's rackets for himself. When you hear the story of how Pappadio was lured into a meeting and savagely beaten and shot in the head, you think wow how horrible... what a greedy fuck that Amuso was. But I think it's easy to forget that Pappadio was a arch criminal himself, "his" rackets were perpetuated by the fact that he had the Lucchese family behind him and the generations before him had paved the way in the Garment Center, allowing him to operate there. The transition of power between Corralo and Amuso wasn't really smooth at all... I'm guessing that a lot of Capos just bided their time and weren't paying what they should have been, if anything at all. Waiting to see where the chips fell, and when they finally did fall in Brooklyn, they weren't kicking up what they were in the past. An Administration shift is a great opportunity to hide rackets, "cook the books" and reset the clock. When you think about it like this, Amuso seems like less of a greedy tyrant and more like a typical mob boss - I think any boss would have done what he did, if they encountered members of the organization thinking they weren't going to pay their fair share, thinking they were going to get over on the new admin and hide money. There were probably a lot of old greedy bastards who saw Amuso as a kid and thought they weren't going to pay him, and Amuso was forced to make examples out of them

Pappadio was given multiple opportunities by Vic to stay out of the garment centre.He didn’t listen so Al D’Arco was sent to deliver the message and once again, Pappadio didn’t listen.He was attacked by D’Arco with a pipe and then George Zappola shot him in the head

Exactly. D'Arco's book gives a little bit more of an objective view of the situation but it was still leaning towards Amuso and Casso simply seeing dollar signs and wanting to take over the whole thing for themselves. Calandra's video recap said the same thing - greed, jealously, etc. - but Pappadio was probably doing whatever he wanted in the Garment Center for years and a lot got lost in translation during the admin change. Amuso asked for accounting, it was found to be off, they asked for reconciliation, that never happened - so they told the guy to retire and enjoy his life and they were putting someone else in there. He didn't listen multiple times and ended up dying (a horrible violent death). They paint Amuso as this raving mad man who was just killing everybody, but I think any boss would have done what he did in this situation. I mean even Gotti had a really big earner and long time member in good standing killed because the guy refused to meet with him . Pretty similar situation here

When Amuso had guys such as Salerno,Pappadio,Facciolo murdered it wasn’t because of money though it is generally portrayed to be in books and documentaries.