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Louis Manna and Richard DeSciscio,

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Whos idea to censor T-Rump on here as trump....????

https://nypost.com/2022/01/01/gotti-ene ... y-release/

A pair of mobsters who conspired to kill Gambino crime boss John Gotti are trying to get sprung — and their fates are inextricably tied to the Trump family.

Louis Manna, 92, and Richard DeSciscio, 79, have been behind bars since being sentenced to 80 and 75 years respectively in 1989 for racketeering and murder conspiracy. Manna had been the consigliere of the Genovese crime family.

The mobsters are now hoping the First Step Act, former President Trump’s landmark criminal justice reform bill, will be their ticket to securing a compassionate early release. The law allows for certain prisoners to be granted early release from federal penitentiaries in an effort to reduce the prison population.

In an ironic twist, both men were put away by presiding Federal Judge Maryanne Trump Barry — the former president’s older sister — who called the jury’s guilty verdict “courageous” and said the evidence “fairly shrieked of the defendants’ guilt.”

Lawyers for the elderly dons hope the justice system has softened since then.

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Both men were put away by Trump’s sister, Federal Judge Maryanne Trump Barry, pictured here with her brother in 2008.
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“Former President Trump’s expansion of the First Step Act was one of his great actions toward criminal justice reform that not only recognizes the importance of a tough-on-crime stance, but also the importance of rehabilitation and reward for good behavior and positive change,” DeSciscio attorney Marco Laracca told The Post.

Laracca said his client was in ill health, citing a past bout with prostate cancer.

Manna’s attorney Jeremy Iandolo — who followed in the long tradition of mob lawyers by denying the existence of La Cosa Nostra — insisted his wheelchair-bound client was no threat to anyone and also deserved compassionate release.

“There is no [alleged] Italian American mobster who has been released under the First Step Act. And this case would set precedent,” Iandolo said. He angrily cited the case of Eddie Cox, 86, who was released earlier this year. Cox — a white man who improbably led the “Black Mafia” of Kansas City during the 1960s and 70s — was linked to 17 murders, the Kansas City Star reported.

Louis Manna pictured with his lawyer in the 1980s.
Manna, left, was once consigliere of the Genovese crime family.
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So far, things haven’t gone their way. Last month Senior U.S. District Judge Peter G. Sheridan again denied release to Manna stating, “His numerous crimes were extremely serious and heinous.”

Iandolo said he plans an appeal. DeSciscio’s case before the same judge is pending.
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As they both should. In addition to the fact that the Irwin Schiff murder needs to be re-examined for numerous reasons.
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It’s time for Manna and DeSciscio to come home.They pose no threat at all and Manna is planning on living with his step son in New Jersey if he is released.Let the man come home and spend his final years with his family.Prosecutors never want guys in the life to come home, no matter what.They let Peter Gotti die in prison.Joseph DiNapoli, the former Consigliere of the Lucchese Family told John Pennisi that “Peter must be looking at the sky wondering why he’s there” his second name is the reason why.Frank Locascio is another example…
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I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early. It allows the public perception of being tough crime. Then you have musicians like Kanye and drake running a free Larry hoover benefit concert tour or some sh*t with the full support sitting congress men and women
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Top photo is great.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:55 pm I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early. It allows the public perception of being tough crime. Then you have musicians like Kanye and drake running a free Larry hoover benefit concert tour or some sh*t with the full support sitting congress men and women
That's why (even though it's not mentioned in the Post article) Manna and DeSciscio's lawyers are tying in their Schiff murder conviction (and perhaps the gambling charge which prevented them from getting parole.)
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Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:55 pm I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early.

Except for the hundreds who have been released early.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:14 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:55 pm I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early.

Except for the hundreds who have been released early.


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I knew someone would misunderstood what I meant. I wasn't giving an opinion on all the marginalized minorities that have been released early. I am all for that. But both things can be true at the same time-you can release the people who have been systematically incarcerated unjustly and release ppl like DeSciscio at the same time
And I read about the first step act it exacerbates racial disparities if anything. Not to mention the extensive electronic monitoring these people are subject to that is run by a privatized prison/probation company that charges 13/bucks a day plus paying for a urine sample at random once a week that if your late is cause for violation to contd that vicious cycle all over again. send half back anyways for trivial sh*t like open container law(s) or not being able to pay fines.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:55 pm I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early. It allows the public perception of being tough crime. Then you have musicians like Kanye and drake running a free Larry hoover benefit concert tour or some sh*t with the full support sitting congress men and women
Yeah, our prison system needs to start treating black people as bad as white people. It's favored black people for far too long...
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Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:55 pm I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early. It allows the public perception of being tough crime. Then you have musicians like Kanye and drake running a free Larry hoover benefit concert tour or some sh*t with the full support sitting congress men and women
Hoover is currently serving a life sentence at ADX Florence.I do not believe he’s ever coming home.When you get hit with life in the Bureau Of Prisons, it’s over.Even worse for Hoover is that he is in the supermax prison in Florence Colorado.23 hours a day in solitary then 1 hour outside in a cage.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:52 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:14 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:55 pm I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early.

Except for the hundreds who have been released early.


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I knew someone would misunderstood what I meant. I wasn't giving an opinion on all the marginalized minorities that have been released early. I am all for that. But both things can be true at the same time-you can release the people who have been systematically incarcerated unjustly and release ppl like DeSciscio at the same time
And I read about the first step act it exacerbates racial disparities if anything. Not to mention the extensive electronic monitoring these people are subject to that is run by a privatized prison/probation company that charges 13/bucks a day plus paying for a urine sample at random once a week that if your late is cause for violation to contd that vicious cycle all over again. send half back anyways for trivial sh*t like open container law(s) or not being able to pay fines.

I was speaking to your statement about LCN guys never being released esrly. That is false. The overwhelming majority get early release. Almost none of these guys ever actually complete their full sentences. They are always in and out and getting paroled. Even if they have multiple murder convictions like all the Lucchese guys from the 1990s and the Philly guys from the 1980s.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:14 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:55 pm I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early.

Except for the hundreds who have been released early.


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Yeah,…several Italian LCN members have early release for COVID. Baldy Mike Spinelli is one.

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Both of them were put back in prison, I believe.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:52 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:14 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:55 pm I said this once on here and I'll say again... no Italian American associated with cosa nostra will ever get released early.

Except for the hundreds who have been released early.


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I knew someone would misunderstood what I meant. I wasn't giving an opinion on all the marginalized minorities that have been released early. I am all for that. But both things can be true at the same time-you can release the people who have been systematically incarcerated unjustly and release ppl like DeSciscio at the same time
And I read about the first step act it exacerbates racial disparities if anything. Not to mention the extensive electronic monitoring these people are subject to that is run by a privatized prison/probation company that charges 13/bucks a day plus paying for a urine sample at random once a week that if your late is cause for violation to contd that vicious cycle all over again. send half back anyways for trivial sh*t like open container law(s) or not being able to pay fines.

I was speaking to your statement about LCN guys never being released esrly. That is false. The overwhelming majority get early release. Almost none of these guys ever actually complete their full sentences. They are always in and out and getting paroled. Even if they have multiple murder convictions like all the Lucchese guys from the 1990s and the Philly guys from the 1980s.


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Then I misunderstood. My fault. Almost nobody in prison completes their full sentence to the door as they say. But how many ask for compassionate release and get it?
What Philly guys or Lucchese? Besides Spinelli...
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Philly: All the Scarfo era guys went down for multiple murders in the 1980s and were all out by the 2010s.


Lucchese: DeSantis, Lastorino, Zappola, Papagni, Avellino, Barratta, Federico, etc all went down for murder in the 1990s and are all back on the street. Most are still committing crimes.


Countless other examples like Mikey Mancuso who killed his wife in the 1980s, got out by the 1990s, did another murder and did less than 15 years and is now back on the street committing more crime. Ditto for Lorenzo Mannino.


And you guys are crying that we should let more of these scumbags out. :roll:


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