Garbage Business

[Don The Jeweler]

Could someone explain how garbage business / racket works for the mob? Are they still involved in that?

[Wiseguy]

The garbage racket came down to monopolization. By controlling most of the big waste hauling companies in NYC, the unions that represented their workers, and the industry associations through which it oversaw it all, the mob was able to dictate and inflate prices. Everyone in the mob garbage cartel worked together in their "property rights" system where a hauler had "rights" to a given stop. Didn't matter if the business at that location didn't like paying inflated prices, there was nobody else that would service them. Other haulers in the cartel respected the property rights and any independents would be taking their life in their hands picking up the stop. NYC businesses would just pass on the extra cost to their customers and it was basically psuedo-legit extortion by the mob for decades.

A few of the NYC families, particularly the Genovese family, have been involved around the fringes to a much lesser extent; mainly in the outlying areas surrounding NYC. Within the city itself, the market has become even more regulated with the recent creation of commercial waste zones.

[Shellackhead]

The garbage racket came down to monopolization. By controlling most of the big waste hauling companies in NYC, the unions that represented their workers, and the industry associations through which it oversaw it all, the mob was able to dictate and inflate prices. Everyone in the mob garbage cartel worked together in their "property rights" system where a hauler had "rights" to a given stop. Didn't matter if the business at that location didn't like paying inflated prices, there was nobody else that would service them. Other haulers in the cartel respected the property rights and any independents would be taking their life in their hands picking up the stop. NYC businesses would just pass on the extra cost to their customers and it was basically psuedo-legit extortion by the mob for decades.

A few of the NYC families, particularly the Genovese family, have been involved around the fringes to a much lesser extent; mainly in the outlying areas surrounding NYC. Within the city itself, the market has become even more regulated with the recent creation of commercial waste zones.

Who were some guys that got involved & made a lot of money out of this racket?

[Dr031718]

The garbage racket came down to monopolization. By controlling most of the big waste hauling companies in NYC, the unions that represented their workers, and the industry associations through which it oversaw it all, the mob was able to dictate and inflate prices. Everyone in the mob garbage cartel worked together in their "property rights" system where a hauler had "rights" to a given stop. Didn't matter if the business at that location didn't like paying inflated prices, there was nobody else that would service them. Other haulers in the cartel respected the property rights and any independents would be taking their life in their hands picking up the stop. NYC businesses would just pass on the extra cost to their customers and it was basically psuedo-legit extortion by the mob for decades.

A few of the NYC families, particularly the Genovese family, have been involved around the fringes to a much lesser extent; mainly in the outlying areas surrounding NYC. Within the city itself, the market has become even more regulated with the recent creation of commercial waste zones.

Who were some guys that got involved & made a lot of money out of this racket?

Angelo Ponte and Jimmy Brown Faillaz takedown is a good book to read about the garbage rackets in NYC

[Wiseguy]

Who were some guys that got involved & made a lot of money out of this racket?

Jimmy Failla, Joseph Francolino, Alphonse Malangone, Mario Gigante, Angelo Ponte, Sal Avellino, and many others. Like Dr031718 said above, if you read the book Takedown by Rick Cowan, it goes pretty in depth to the whole thing and many of those involved.

[Shellackhead]

Thanks, Dr & Wiseguy will look into it

[Wiseguy]

I would add that the biggest involvement the mob has had in more recent years has been hauling construction and demolition materials, which has included illegal dumping.

[Tonyd621]

Need garbageman on here to explain it

[joeycigars]

Read up on ,Carmine “Papa Smurf” Franco, James Galante, Thomas Milo, Mario Gigante and Nicholas "Cockeyed Nick" Rattenni, All very deeply involved at the highest levels , Great stories youll have to do your own research on which way you want to go, its way to much info me to post , But very interesting guys to read about,

Good read Dont know whos site this is , Props if your on here
Organized crime and waste hauling
Copied from: http://mafiahistory.us/maf-hinc.html

[West Coast1]

recycling became mandatory in the late 80's i believe and there were monopolies in NJ that would get busted in let's say Hudson County and usually a huge fine would avoid prison time

[Shellackhead]

I would add that the biggest involvement the mob has had in more recent years has been hauling construction and demolition materials, which has included illegal dumping.

The Garofalos were involved in that here on Long Island.

[Shellackhead]

https://suffolkcountyny.gov/da/News-and ... -smithtown

[Tonyd621]

Read up on ,Carmine “Papa Smurf” Franco, James Galante, Thomas Milo, Mario Gigante and Nicholas "Cockeyed Nick" Rattenni, All very deeply involved at the highest levels , Great stories youll have to do your own research on which way you want to go, its way to much info me to post , But very interesting guys to read about,

Good read Dont know whos site this is , Props if your on here
Organized crime and waste hauling
Copied from: http://mafiahistory.us/maf-hinc.html

Yeah until Tommy Milo's wife started suing ppl.

[Garbageman]

Need garbageman on here to explain it

Wiseguy did a perfect paragraph on the basics. Like he said, monopolize and conquer was the plan. (Here's where my take on in enters lol) Still is, only its the politicians in place of the mob doing the strong arming and collecting of the fat stacks, hot broads, and crazy behavior.

[Garbageman]

Read up on ,Carmine “Papa Smurf” Franco, James Galante, Thomas Milo, Mario Gigante and Nicholas "Cockeyed Nick" Rattenni, All very deeply involved at the highest levels , Great stories youll have to do your own research on which way you want to go, its way to much info me to post , But very interesting guys to read about,

Good read Dont know whos site this is , Props if your on here
Organized crime and waste hauling
Copied from: http://mafiahistory.us/maf-hinc.html

Looks like an interesting site. Never came across this before. Thanks.