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Snakes wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:55 am Denver & Milwaukee

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Clearly the first name on the Milwaukee list is boss Frank Balistrieri. They listed the remaining defunct Madison family members in with Milwaukee including boss Carlo Caputo who would pass in 1993.
I always wondered where the remaining Springfield, Illinois family members went. If they threw in with St. Louis or voted to disband as well.
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Strange oversight them listing Sam DeCavalcante as Boss in 1993. Same with Frank Majuri as a Capo.


Thanks for posting all of these Snakes.


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cavita wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:13 am Clearly the first name on the Milwaukee list is boss Frank Balistrieri.

I checked and Frank Balistrieri died in February of 1993. It could his other son John (if he was made). In the 1967 list there are several members whose surname starts with 'A' so it could be one of them.


In addition to Caputo, James Schiavo and Cosmo DiSalvo were also Madison members.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:32 am
cavita wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:13 am Clearly the first name on the Milwaukee list is boss Frank Balistrieri.

I checked and Frank Balistrieri died in February of 1993. It could his other son John (if he was made). In the 1967 list there are several members whose username starts with 'A' so it could be one of them.


In addition to Caputo, James Schiavo and Cosmo DiSalvo were also Madison members.


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My bad. Off the top of my head I thought Frank died in 1997. I'm unaware if son John was made.
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It was his brother Peter who died in 1997.


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Thanks for posting all of those, Snakes.

Just some observations...

The 49 member list for Buffalo is close to the 45 member count seen in articles quoting the feds in 1989 and 1991. 

First time I've seen a count for Rochester. I've been only able to identify about 5 members that I believe are still alive.

Russell Papalardo may be the last man standing in Cleveland.

The 28 member list for Detroit is close to a 1990 report that had 26 members and the 29 members given by the feds in the 1996 GamTax case. I think at least 25 members have died since 1993.

The 48 member list for Chicago is close to a 1987 report that had 51 members and a list of 47 names that the FBI released to the local press in 1999.

Besides including a few Madison members, it also seems some of those guys on the Milwaukee list were dead by 1993. It also seems the only members that lasted past 2000 were Joseph Balistrieri (2010), Joseph Caminiti (2014), and Dominick Gullo (2015).

Regarding the 20 member list for Kansas City, I think at least 15 members have died since 1993.

The redacted member on the 3-person Denver list was probably Paul Villano (or possibly Eugene Smaldone Jr.). Both are dead now.
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Wiseguy wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:29 pm Thanks for posting all of those, Snakes.

Just some observations...

The 49 member list for Buffalo is close to the 45 member count seen in articles quoting the feds in 1989 and 1991. 

First time I've seen a count for Rochester. I've been only able to identify about 5 members that I believe are still alive.

Russell Papalardo may be the last man standing in Cleveland.

The 28 member list for Detroit is close to a 1990 report that had 26 members and the 29 members given by the feds in the 1996 GamTax case. I think at least 25 members have died since 1993.

The 48 member list for Chicago is close to a 1987 report that had 51 members and a list of 47 names that the FBI released to the local press in 1999.

Besides including a few Madison members, it also seems some of those guys on the Milwaukee list were dead by 1993. It also seems the only members that lasted past 2000 were Joseph Balistrieri (2010), Joseph Caminiti (2014), and Dominick Gullo (2015).

Regarding the 20 member list for Kansas City, I think at least 15 members have died since 1993.

The redacted member on the 3-person Denver list was probably Paul Villano (or possibly Eugene Smaldone Jr.). Both are dead now.
Interesting that jimmy lafatch in Cleveland : Akron is not listed Althiugh he did die in April of 1993

Also Anthony mollica Cleveland /Mansfield who I believe died in late 1993
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Here is a count from November of 1993. The unredacted names really didn't change that much for me to post them all as images but I may do an add/subtract type of deal between the two:

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And everyone has thanked Snakes, but really Snakes, this is an amazing find that we're all enjoying. Thank you very much!!!
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Adam wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:04 pm And everyone has thanked Snakes, but really Snakes, this is an amazing find that we're all enjoying. Thank you very much!!!
No problem. I'm trying to get later records along these same lines. Anything too much later would be heavily redacted (if released at all) but something like 1998 would be pretty interesting.
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Wiseguy wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:29 pm Thanks for posting all of those, Snakes.

Just some observations...

The 49 member list for Buffalo is close to the 45 member count seen in articles quoting the feds in 1989 and 1991. 

First time I've seen a count for Rochester. I've been only able to identify about 5 members that I believe are still alive.

Russell Papalardo may be the last man standing in Cleveland.

The 28 member list for Detroit is close to a 1990 report that had 26 members and the 29 members given by the feds in the 1996 GamTax case. I think at least 25 members have died since 1993.

The 48 member list for Chicago is close to a 1987 report that had 51 members and a list of 47 names that the FBI released to the local press in 1999.

Besides including a few Madison members, it also seems some of those guys on the Milwaukee list were dead by 1993. It also seems the only members that lasted past 2000 were Joseph Balistrieri (2010), Joseph Caminiti (2014), and Dominick Gullo (2015).

Regarding the 20 member list for Kansas City, I think at least 15 members have died since 1993.

The redacted member on the 3-person Denver list was probably Paul Villano (or possibly Eugene Smaldone Jr.). Both are dead now.
Hi Wiseguy. You and I are on the same page when it comes to the whole 26 or 29 members for Detroit in 1996. I've actually assumed that was a typo in the 1996 reporting and they meant to say 26. Now I know. Good to learn things. I'm really surprised that the Feds had younger guys in the list of Detroit members. Pete J. Corrado was a complete surprise. He's listed as a soldier in the 1996 bust, but I never thought they would have called him that in 1993. And clearly there are a ton of redacted newly(relatively speaking 80s) made members for Detroit. I've got at least six-seven alive from then on my list though. Assuming no making ceremonies in the nineties-2000s-or 2010s...
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Adam wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:18 pmHi Wiseguy. You and I are on the same page when it comes to the whole 26 or 29 members for Detroit in 1996. I've actually assumed that was a typo in the 1996 reporting and they meant to say 26. Now I know. Good to learn things. I'm really surprised that the Feds had younger guys in the list of Detroit members. Pete J. Corrado was a complete surprise. He's listed as a soldier in the 1996 bust, but I never thought they would have called him that in 1993. And clearly there are a ton of redacted newly(relatively speaking 80s) made members for Detroit. I've got at least six-seven alive from then on my list though. Assuming no making ceremonies in the nineties-2000s-or 2010s...
Just out of curiosity, who do you have as currently, identified remaining members? The list of ones I can identify is pretty short.
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Wiseguy wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:32 pm
Adam wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:18 pmHi Wiseguy. You and I are on the same page when it comes to the whole 26 or 29 members for Detroit in 1996. I've actually assumed that was a typo in the 1996 reporting and they meant to say 26. Now I know. Good to learn things. I'm really surprised that the Feds had younger guys in the list of Detroit members. Pete J. Corrado was a complete surprise. He's listed as a soldier in the 1996 bust, but I never thought they would have called him that in 1993. And clearly there are a ton of redacted newly(relatively speaking 80s) made members for Detroit. I've got at least six-seven alive from then on my list though. Assuming no making ceremonies in the nineties-2000s-or 2010s...
Just out of curiosity, who do you have as currently, identified remaining members? The list of ones I can identify is pretty short.
So I was thinking these guys from 1993:
Jackie Giacalone
Pete Tocco
Anthony Lapiana
Joseph Giacalone
Pete Corrado
Paul Corrado

And the other Paul Corrado gets named as a soldier in 1996.
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Snakes wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:16 am
motorfab wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:22 am Hey snakes, could you post Bonanno/Buffalo/St Louis (if you have them) please ?
I can get Bonannos soon. Here are Buffalo and St. Louis:

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Shows how under the radar Buffalo was in 1993 with almost 50 members. More if we assume Canada branch, besides the listed Papalia? Or are some redacted most likely Canadian? Only one member in County Jail shows they have always been low key and hard for the Feds to put away
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The numbers represent all individuals (regardless of place of residence) that belong to that family, so I would assume this also includes Canadians.
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