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Before discounting the idea entirely, I'd suggest reading the work Dan Moldea has been doing on this case since the day Hoffa disappeared. There is no one that knows more about the Hoffa case, other than the guys that killed Jimmy.

His recent research at the site, coupled with interest from law enforcement, led to this latest investigation.
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If the body is ALLEGEDLY under my house and NOt found,,,would the gov give me a free upgrade,,,,lol jus thinking outside the box
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mpl0215 wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:49 pm Yeah I don’t understand wasting resources like this all these years later ….Hoffa was one of the most recognizable people back then; it’s lol that his body left the state IMO


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PolackTony wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:04 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:26 pm For me the Detroit mob dissolve in acid the Hoffa body or buried it in Canada.
Or incinerated, turned into "sausage meat" etc., at one of the many funeral homes or food processing businesses controlled by the Detroit Outfit.
Yeah, the body will never be found because it no longer exists.

It's theoretically possible that some day they might scrap some of Hoffa's DNA off a meat grinder or crematory, but don't hold your breath.
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PolackTony wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:04 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:26 pm For me the Detroit mob dissolve in acid the Hoffa body or buried it in Canada.
Or incinerated, turned into "sausage meat" etc., at one of the many funeral homes or food processing businesses controlled by the Detroit Outfit.
Tbh I always thought that Genovese guys made him disappear since he was close to Tony Pro.
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Without knowing a ton about the disappearance other than basic info out there, I find it hard to believe they’d kill him in Michigan and then drive his body halfway across the country to dispose of it. Seems so insanely risky.
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Shellackhead wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:06 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:04 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:26 pm For me the Detroit mob dissolve in acid the Hoffa body or buried it in Canada.
Or incinerated, turned into "sausage meat" etc., at one of the many funeral homes or food processing businesses controlled by the Detroit Outfit.
Tbh I always thought that Genovese guys made him disappear since he was close to Tony Pro.
Regardless of who actually pulled the trigger, it would’ve been a joint Genovese/Detroit operation (Chicago was probably involved at least at the level of assenting to it). Even if Genovese guys killed him, it would make a lot more sense to use the local Outfit to dispose of the body than driving it to NJ. Not that it’s impossible for the latter scenario to have happened, but Occam’s razor leads me to assume that they would’ve simply disposed of him locally (and Detroit had a thousand ways to do so discretely), unless and until something convincing to the contrary surfaces.
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PolackTony wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:47 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:06 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:04 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:26 pm For me the Detroit mob dissolve in acid the Hoffa body or buried it in Canada.
Or incinerated, turned into "sausage meat" etc., at one of the many funeral homes or food processing businesses controlled by the Detroit Outfit.
Tbh I always thought that Genovese guys made him disappear since he was close to Tony Pro.
Regardless of who actually pulled the trigger, it would’ve been a joint Genovese/Detroit operation (Chicago was probably involved at least at the level of assenting to it). Even if Genovese guys killed him, it would make a lot more sense to use the local Outfit to dispose of the body than driving it to NJ. Not that it’s impossible for the latter scenario to have happened, but Occam’s razor leads me to assume that they would’ve simply disposed of him locally (and Detroit had a thousand ways to do so discretely), unless and until something convincing to the contrary surfaces.
I see, do you think any of the guys that have flipped through the years that are from that time that are still alive have any info on that? franzese just says he was thrown in the ocean
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Uforeality wrote:I think Hoffa was probably one of the highest non mafia figures to get killed. It's not like dumping him in the streets was gonna make a point. They had to make him disappear. We also assume he was murdered in Detroit. But all points aside, this body hunt for Hoffa is a circus. Never say never, but I dont think they'll ever really find his body.
I like Bill Bufalino’s theory. The CIA took him out. Made it look like the mob.


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Shellackhead wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:00 pm
PolackTony wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:47 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:06 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:04 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:26 pm For me the Detroit mob dissolve in acid the Hoffa body or buried it in Canada.
Or incinerated, turned into "sausage meat" etc., at one of the many funeral homes or food processing businesses controlled by the Detroit Outfit.
Tbh I always thought that Genovese guys made him disappear since he was close to Tony Pro.
Regardless of who actually pulled the trigger, it would’ve been a joint Genovese/Detroit operation (Chicago was probably involved at least at the level of assenting to it). Even if Genovese guys killed him, it would make a lot more sense to use the local Outfit to dispose of the body than driving it to NJ. Not that it’s impossible for the latter scenario to have happened, but Occam’s razor leads me to assume that they would’ve simply disposed of him locally (and Detroit had a thousand ways to do so discretely), unless and until something convincing to the contrary surfaces.
I see, do you think any of the guys that have flipped through the years that are from that time that are still alive have any info on that? franzese just says he was thrown in the ocean
I don’t really find it plausible that Franzese would actually know. Given the families that were most likely involved (Detroit, Genovese, Chicago), I don’t think that there’s anyone among the currently alive rats who would be in any position to know. Just my opinion, of course, but I assume that even within those families that may have been involved this was a high-level hit on a very high-profile public figure and thus any details probably stayed within a small circle on a need-to-know basis.
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PolackTony wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:12 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:00 pm
PolackTony wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:47 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:06 pm
PolackTony wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:04 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:26 pm For me the Detroit mob dissolve in acid the Hoffa body or buried it in Canada.
Or incinerated, turned into "sausage meat" etc., at one of the many funeral homes or food processing businesses controlled by the Detroit Outfit.
Tbh I always thought that Genovese guys made him disappear since he was close to Tony Pro.
Regardless of who actually pulled the trigger, it would’ve been a joint Genovese/Detroit operation (Chicago was probably involved at least at the level of assenting to it). Even if Genovese guys killed him, it would make a lot more sense to use the local Outfit to dispose of the body than driving it to NJ. Not that it’s impossible for the latter scenario to have happened, but Occam’s razor leads me to assume that they would’ve simply disposed of him locally (and Detroit had a thousand ways to do so discretely), unless and until something convincing to the contrary surfaces.
I see, do you think any of the guys that have flipped through the years that are from that time that are still alive have any info on that? franzese just says he was thrown in the ocean
I don’t really find it plausible that Franzese would actually know. Given the families that were most likely involved (Detroit, Genovese, Chicago), I don’t think that there’s anyone among the currently alive rats who would be in any position to know. Just my opinion, of course, but I assume that even within those families that may have been involved this was a high-level hit on a very high-profile public figure and thus any details probably stayed within a small circle on a need-to-know basis.
I saw a video where Sammy Gravano said that he was told that Sally Bugz killed Hoffa. Maybe that was just a rumor and you know with time rumors change & people add their own version of it
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From everything I have read over the years on Hoffa I agree with the FBI that Sally Bugs was the trigger man. Who was Tony Pro's guy. Which makes sense cause Tony Pro had a falling out with Hoffa and was a powerhouse in the Teamsters union. As we know Sally Bugs was hit a short time later. I wouldn't be surprised if he was buried in NJ somewhere tied to a Teamsters Trucking Co site.
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TSNYC wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:18 pm Without knowing a ton about the disappearance other than basic info out there, I find it hard to believe they’d kill him in Michigan and then drive his body halfway across the country to dispose of it. Seems so insanely risky.
While I don’t know if it’s true when you think about it by the time they realized he was missing he would have been hundreds of miles away on a gateway transportation truck while he’s been searched for in Detroit. Not saying it’s most plausible but I could kinda see how that could make sense other than the fact your driving across the country with bones of a very famous person
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Stephen Andretta and Gabriel Briguglio are still alive, incidentally.

You just know there's some loser prosecutor out there who wants to pad his resume with indicting them for Hoffa the way they indicted Asaro in that dumb "Goodfellas case".
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Rocco wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:06 pm From everything I have read over the years on Hoffa I agree with the FBI that Sally Bugs was the trigger man. Who was Tony Pro's guy. Which makes sense cause Tony Pro had a falling out with Hoffa and was a powerhouse in the Teamsters union. As we know Sally Bugs was hit a short time later. I wouldn't be surprised if he was buried in NJ somewhere tied to a Teamsters Trucking Co site.
Especially if you have to move it due to heat , you want full control of that process if that was your responsibility
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