PolackTony wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:31 am
eboli wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:19 am
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Anybody have more info on this? Later, the same informer advised that the relationship between Chicago and the Genovese became strained the moment Vito Genovese took over, but returned to normal after he was put away for narcotics trafficking in 1959 and Catena took over as acting boss and commission avugad.
Thanks for this. Wasn’t there also a claim that Genovese tried to screw Chicago in the Apalachin meeting (at least as it was planned to unfold) by bringing them up for inducting guys for being earners (i.e., instead of killers. Funny charge given how many made guys in Chicago were brutal animals). Maybe I’m misremembering this but I recall that one of the agendas for discussion at Apalachin was Chicago allegedly making guys that shouldn’t have been made.
The repair of this rift under Catena would make sense and perhaps we can also see some of the context of the meeting that you already noted at Domenico Blando’s pool hall before.
Yeah, Genovese wanted to screw Chicago and many other people. He was scheming to muscle in on gambling rackets all over the country, but especially in New Jersey and Florida. He planned to kill Anthony Caponigro, Anthony Carfano and unnamed Chicago Outfit gambling operators in Central Florida. I couldn't find any info if he had made the Florida move; Catena told / persuaded him to back off from Caponigro; and Carfano was the only one killed. Ironically, Vito murdered a member of his own crime family before anybody else on his list. As for the repair job under Catena - it's not surprising because he had ties to Chicago dating back to the 1920s. What's interesting about him is that his dealings with The Outfit are responsible, at least in part, for his quick rise in the Genovese family.
As for the meeting in Blando's place, it happened in 1948 or 1949, roughly a decade before this alleged commission meeting in which Vito blew Accardo's spot. Since Gene Catena was the messenger, it's more than likely that it concerned Jerry Catena's gambling interests. At the time, he had gambling rackets in New Jersey, Florida, and some level of involvement in Cuba.
Villain wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:05 pm
I think this also can be added to that same context...
According to Chuck Giancana (Sams brother and his book), Giancana and the Outfit hated Vito because of the Apalachin meeting and the murder attempt on Costello. Ricca and Costello went all the way back and once they were even arrested together i think.
Ricca and Costello were very close. I don't know if this friendship dates back to before they were big shots or it was gradually developed during their business dealings, but it was there. In the 1940s, there was even speculations among law enforcement that Chicago and Genovese were a tight criminal alliance or even one organization. It spilled out to the newspapers in the early 1950s when pieces like pic related started popping up:
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