What happened to Mike Caruana?

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Re: What happened to Mike Caruana?

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they where gonna kill nick bianco to but couldnt set him up. again think it was john castagna who said ray thought ferrara would flip like leonetti
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Here is some information about Raymond Junior Patriarca and the alleged attempt on Ferrara from the Judge Mark Wolf's decision on the case. The article also talks about Caruana.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/di ... 5/1967939/

It seems that from this article that Caruana was an important messenger between Raymond L.S Patriarca and Angiulo.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/3758630 ... o-caruana/

Why were Russo and Ferrara going to kill Nicky Bianco?
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That a good read. So ray sr choose ray jr to succeed him. Nepotism. Im surprised he lasted from july 84 till 89. I always wondered if the capos voted him in. Ray sr must have went to chin with his wish his son succeed him. Chin was the force in 1984. Ray jr did luck out with sentencing only did like 8 9yrs and hasnt looked back. Crazy he became the official boss of the family at the age 39 if my math is rite
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Pmac2 wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 6:52 pm That a good read. So ray sr choose ray jr to succeed him. Nepotism. Im surprised he lasted from july 84 till 89. I always wondered if the capos voted him in. Ray sr must have went to chin with his wish his son succeed him. Chin was the force in 1984. Ray jr did luck out with sentencing only did like 8 9yrs and hasnt looked back. Crazy he became the official boss of the family at the age 39 if my math is rite
could both of the New York mobsters such as Chin and the Patriarca capos accepted Ray Jr as boss out of respect for his father? Although I don't think that Angiulo would have accepted Raymond Jr as boss.
I guess that Raymond Jr was wrong about Ferrara flipping as I don't think he did.
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Anguilo was locked up. Ferrara did like 18yrs or something like that. Im guessing the commission had to have met sometime ithe end of summer or fall to vote Ray jr in as boss. Theres no way that decision wasnt decided by the 5 familys. All the bosses were free in 84
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Thanks for your recent message and it looks like Caruana was buried in a garage in Connecticut according to the article below.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8300815 ... ton-globe/

Could Caruana have known Larry Zannino? As according to the article they were at the Lancaster street garage having meetings with Whitey and Stevie. It looks like in the article Larry Baione was seen by the state troopers slapping a man during one meeting there.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8233165 ... ton-globe/
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I bet ray jr okd grasso to kill carauna in 86 and that probaly didnt fly well with the boston guys. Theory. But the defense lawyers came out and said he was some type of infomant
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Ok and did Ray Jr sanction the hit on Caruana to prevent him from cooperating any further with the authorities. Why were the Boston guys unhappy with Grasso killing Caruana?
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Again ray jr is kinda lucky he isnt doing life. If the boston guys didnt kill grasso he would have been on trial rite next to him and gotten life. From what ive heard and read he a legitimate multi millionaire real estate stuff.
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Pmac2 wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:05 am Again ray jr is kinda lucky he isnt doing life. If the boston guys didnt kill grasso he would have been on trial rite next to him and gotten life. From what ive heard and read he a legitimate multi millionaire real estate stuff.
Yeah where do you think the money came from? Not hard to run real estate when you have tons of money
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Extortion wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:33 pm
Pmac2 wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:05 am Again ray jr is kinda lucky he isnt doing life. If the boston guys didnt kill grasso he would have been on trial rite next to him and gotten life. From what ive heard and read he a legitimate multi millionaire real estate stuff.
Yeah where do you think the money came from? Not hard to run real estate when you have tons of money
exactly
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thanks for the recent comments from Pmac, Extortion and Philly D.

Is Raymond Jr still alive?
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Pmac2 wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:59 am I bet ray jr okd grasso to kill carauna in 86 and that probaly didnt fly well with the boston guys. Theory. But the defense lawyers came out and said he was some type of infomant
There is apparently a tape where Caruana has a conversation with an IRS agent where he tells him that he is an informant for the government in the Seventies.


https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8308657 ... nt-part-1/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8308627 ... informant/
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davidf1989 wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:46 pm
Pmac2 wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:59 am I bet ray jr okd grasso to kill carauna in 86 and that probaly didnt fly well with the boston guys. Theory. But the defense lawyers came out and said he was some type of infomant
There is apparently a tape where Caruana has a conversation with an IRS agent where he tells him that he is an informant for the government in the Seventies.


https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8308657 ... nt-part-1/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/8308627 ... informant/
It seems kind of divided where law believes he was an informant. One said it was preposterous. But I mean does it really matter? I doubt the crime family
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Re: What happened to Mike Caruana?

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Thanks Extortion for your recent message.

If Caruana was an informant and i am not saying that it matters either way. Could he have given up Angiulo, Raymond L.S Patriarca and his son?
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