Four arrested in four Mafia killings that targeted Rizzuto clan

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chin_gigante wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:50 am That thing about the Vincenzo Spagnolo murder being a mistake is interesting. It lines up with what Andrew Scoppa said about how he had nothing against Vincenzo, but rather his son Nicola.

Also interesting that this seems to put the blame for Salvatore Scoppa's murder at the feet of this "Brad Pitt" (did we ever figure out who this was?) and possibly Mirarchi rather than the Rizzutos. Lines up with the theory that it was a friend of his who set him up the night he was killed.




I've felt for awhile Miriarchi is a key figure, he seems to call his own shot. Also was hinted that he married into Ndrangheta.

It's interesting, because the Scoppas were said to have been recognized by the mafia in Toronto and Italy, which I've come to take as shorthand for the Siderno group people. So would Miriarchi go against this? Is he married into a clan? If so, which one? Was recognition from the " Mafia of Toronto and Italy" what triggered Miriarchi to hit them? Because he wanted to be on top?








Did he do this in opposition, or in accordance with this group? Or was this mafia group more or less indifferent?






Scoppa to me seemed mostly credible, if somewhat reluctant. I'm sure he put a slant on many situations to make his rivals look bad.




If Miriarchi is Ndrangheta, and was taking direction from Ontario, and was actively involved in all the murder plots, then the Ndrangheta braintrust bullshitted Vito, which is kinda what I think actually. Their signature wasnt definitively proven to be on any of the murders, so why admit to any of it?


Very interesting turn of events here....
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Is Brad Pitt one of the 4 from the Scoppa hit squad? Cudmore? Scarfo? Who the fuck is Brad Pitt? Lol
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There's a publication ban on Brad Pitt so it's likely we won't know for awhile.

Cudmore fled Canada in 2017 and wasn't from Montreal so we officially can rule him out.
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OcSleeper wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:07 am There's a publication ban on Brad Pitt so it's likely we won't know for awhile.

Cudmore fled Canada in 2017 and wasn't from Montreal so we officially can rule him out.
Where do they find ppl like Cudmore? Did you see that video where he shot through the truck.. definitely his first imo.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:50 am

Where do they find ppl like Cudmore? Did you see that video where he shot through the truck.. definitely his first imo.
In Canada, you can find white trash in any town or city by the dozen, that will do shit like that for a smile, a pat on the back and a "good job, bud".
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Heathen wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:17 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:50 am

Where do they find ppl like Cudmore? Did you see that video where he shot through the truck.. definitely his first imo.
In Canada, you can find white trash in any town or city by the dozen, that will do shit like that for a smile, a pat on the back and a "good job, bud".
It takes a certain kind of naive individual to think you can just kill someone like that w/o consequences and to think guys who spent a lifetime in OC get clipped by a guy who by the looks of it obviously doesn't know the first thing about firing a weapon.
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Paul Cherry's article doesn't name Vincenzo Spagnolo as the person who was killed in error but does allude to Nicola Spagnolo being the intended victim.

Informant says one victim of Mob war was 'eliminated' by mistake
https://montrealgazette.com/news/inform ... by-mistake
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OcSleeper wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:03 pm Informant says Scoppa brothers wanted to eliminate Sicilians in Montreal Mafia
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... real-mafia
This article was updated after I posted it. Here's an interesting part that wasn't in the article before or in the LaPresse articles He later described Mirarchi as being “part of the ‘Ndrangheta.” 
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OcSleeper wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:34 am
OcSleeper wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:03 pm Informant says Scoppa brothers wanted to eliminate Sicilians in Montreal Mafia
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... real-mafia
This article was updated after I posted it. Here's an interesting part that wasn't in the article before or in the LaPresse articles He later described Mirarchi as being “part of the ‘Ndrangheta.” 
I saw that... it jumped off the page....
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Paul Cherry continues to update the article found at

https://montrealgazette.com/news/inform ... by-mistake

Excerpt:
The informant also said he ultimately ended up working for both sides in the conflict, late in 2016, after one of the people working for the Calabrians decided it was time to betray Salvatore Scoppa and kill him.

“In either November or October 2016 (an accomplice whose name cannot be published for the time being) asked if I could get rid of Sal Scoppa and if I could find money for his head. (The accomplice) sent me to the other side, but he betrayed me,” the informant said, adding he eventually went to see a man named Charlie Renda who, he alleged, was on the Sicilian side of the conflict.

“In December, (Renda) gave me a 22 (calibre firearm) with a silencer because I said we didn’t have tools where we were working. He gave me that and an amount of $40,000. I was supposed to get $100,000 plus another $100,000 if I killed (another accomplice whose name cannot be published) for them because he did Lorenzo,” the informant said in reference to Lorenzo Giordano, another leader on the Sicilian side of the conflict who was killed in Laval in 2016.

The informant added that he did not carry out the contract for Renda.
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I wonder what work he carried out for the Sicilians. Since he didn't carry out the hit on Sal Scoppa and only admitted to 3 murders (Rocco & Falduto bros) I assume he was only passing information along to the Sicilians.
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The accused met Andrew Scoppa before the double murder
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... ssinat.php

The accused met Andrew Scoppa before the double murder
▪︎Marie-Josée Viau met with Andrea Scoppa before the Falduto murders. “Andrew had confirmed that to me about those two guys. I had been carried something to Andrew in Laval just before it happened. Andrew himself had confirmed this to me in person. I was sitting next to it and there was no one at the picnic table. Confirms that everything was correct. That everything that was scheduled was correct." A recorded conversation between the informant and Marie-Josée Viau.
▪︎The accused received a encrypted device from "Brad Pitt."
▪︎Marie-Josée Viau claimed to have kept an arsenal of weapons and explosives on her property, which she was paid $1000 per month to do so.
▪︎The bodies  of the Falduto brothers were burned for hours in the open and the ashes and earth thrown into the river. Bleach was poured in large quantities on the garage floor, even still regularly until 2019. The car occupied by the brothers was moved by Guy Dion in the middle of the night to a local junkyard who had it cut.
▪︎After the Falduto brothers murders, Brad Pitt was told them a certain "Enzo" would find the accused a job in a company owned by Raynald Desjardins.
▪︎The informant said Rocco Sollecito was the representative of the Sicilians, but the real leader was "Leo."
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Appreciate the posts OC.
Don't give me your f***ing Manson lamps.
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Of course man, no problem.

It'd be nice if we got a layout of the Sicilian's structure from this trial. The statement by the informant about Leonardo was referring to 2015-2016 since it mentioned Rocco, so it could have changed. We've seen Leonardo listed at the leader of this faction several times, with Sollecito being a 2nd in command or even on equal footing, and Calogero Renda, Nicola Spagnolo, Liborio Cuntrera and Vito Salvaggio playing important roles. In La Source its mentioned how Sollecito views Leonardo as incompetent and unable to lead but seems to stay loyal. Then IIRC a 2019 Le Journal de Montreal put an article out that had Sollecito as the new leader of the "Montreal Mafia," so did Leonardo take a step back/down after his 2015 arrest?
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OcSleeper wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:25 am The accused met Andrew Scoppa before the double murder
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... ssinat.php
Few more points from the above article that have bene added after I posted.
▪︎The informant explaines how Andrew Scoppa and Victor Mirarchi were together, that Salvatore Scoppa was at a higher level, but that there were "Quarrels" between these Calabrians. I hope they touch on this again. I was always under the impression Andrea Scoppa was always the "top brother" so to speak and Sal Scoppa was more of a "soldier." In our Scoppa thread covering La Source, there's one part of a conversation between Andrea Scoppa and unnamed man and Scoppa talks about his brother telling people in Italy and Toronto about what's going on. It also is mentioned how "the Scoppas received the approval of the Mafia in Toronto and Italy." Maybe Sal Scoppa was the one with these connections and that is why he is on a "higher level."
▪︎The informant warned the police Sal Scoppa would be killed and that there was a mole in the SQ.
▪︎The informant was harsh towards the SQ and one officer in particular who did not keep their promises, in terms of drugs he was to receive, payments that would have late payments and complaints of sexual assault and against a former spouse that were not addressed. “It has never been a negotiation, it has always been a dictatorship."
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