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The 'Chappy' they mention is most likely Lorenzo Brescia. He was a strong-arm man for Luciano and a soldier in Mike Miranda's crew. Some time ago I found an old article that mentioned how he was straightened out at the same time with DeFeo and Funzi.
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Antiliar wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:06 pm Various stuff of interest:

FBI doc says Lucky Luciano made Frank Costello, Joe Adonis...and Meyer Lansky??
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2&tab=page
If Lansky was "made" then theres no question about Guzik, Humphreys or Alex in Chicago lol
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Snakes wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:21 pm
Antiliar wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:06 pm Various stuff of interest:

FBI doc says Lucky Luciano made Frank Costello, Joe Adonis...and Meyer Lansky??
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2&tab=page

Funzi Tieri, Pete DeFeo, and others were made in the same ceremony:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 7&tab=page

Cool map from the New York Daily News:
Mafia Map (NYDN 1977Feb20).jpg
Thanks. There is an interesting comment about Chicago, too. "I know in Chicago, they don't make nobody." "Damn right. The whole mob I think is about fifty."
The whole exchange is very interesting. In context, the comment about Chicago is clearly an admiring one. As they had no competition, they could afford to be very selective in membership, and thus maintain a large pot to be split among a much smaller number of made guys. From what we know of the way that made guys operated in Chicago (they were partners/shareholders/franchisees in the family enterprise), this model couldn't have worked the same way with the NYC "soldier system".
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What it says to me is that a lot of soldiers and even captains depend on rumor and speculation to make their conclusions. It reinforces the fact that information was passed around on a need-to-know basis. They see a guy like Lansky being especially close to Luciano, Genovese and Costello and conclude that he must be a made guy too.

It also appears that a lot of guys were made when the books were supposedly closed.
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Antiliar wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:19 am What it says to me is that a lot of soldiers and even captains depend on rumor and speculation to make their conclusions. It reinforces the fact that information was passed around on a need-to-know basis. They see a guy like Lansky being especially close to Luciano, Genovese and Costello and conclude that he must be a made guy too.

It also appears that a lot of guys were made when the books were supposedly closed.
Accardo (boss) also made a similar comment regarding Lanskys status on the commission....
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https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/ ... 265405132/
https://www.courrierinternational.com/a ... ur-leurope
Nice article from Saviano about the Mafia actions during the pandemic in Europe, if someone wants me to traduce the french version, ask me by pm !
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To AntiLiar: Could you please confirm the date of that Daily News Chart? I have never seen that one!

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Times of Israel article on the rise of organized crime and gang violence in Arab Israeli communities in recent years.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-comm ... bloodshed/
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BeatiPaoli wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 8:10 pm To AntiLiar: Could you please confirm the date of that Daily News Chart? I have never seen that one!

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Sorry, didn't see your comment. Yes, it's on 20 February 1977 on page 31.
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Buried in concrete: how the mafia made a killing from the destruction of Italy’s south.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... alys-south
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