Camorra

[Philly d]

I know there are sicilian off the boat guys made into families but what about Camorra or Ndrgaheta people? Guys who were involved on the other side.

[PolackTony]

I know there are sicilian off the boat guys made into families but what about Camorra or Ndrgaheta people? Guys who were involved on the other side.

You talking about back in the day or more recent? Paul Ricca and some other Chicago guys were very likely Camorra. In the ‘80s there was a group of Outfit-linked Calabresi drug dealers in Chicago related to some made Outfit members (from the area around Taverna, Catanzaro), though I’m not aware that the guys direct from Calabria were ever actually made into the Outfit. There was also a group of Pugliesi in Chicago (from Bari and Taranto) who very likely were affiliated with the Sacra Corona Unita. One of them remaining in Chicago is Pietro LaBalestra, who was busted in the ‘90s for a gambling ring involving a bunch of Italian nationals (Pugliesi and Sicilians) and has long been rumored to be involved in narcotics and construction rackets in the Western suburbs.

[Philly d]

Yeah most recent. Thanks for the info

[furiofromnaples]

Paul Ricca aka Felice De Lucia family lived near my town and more old men tell of the bags of dollars that Ricca send to the family during the years.

[furiofromnaples]

Bonanno soldier Pasquale "Patsy" Spina (1922-1995) born in Naples.

[PolackTony]

Paul Ricca aka Felice De Lucia family lived near my town and more old men tell of the bags of dollars that Ricca send to the family during the years.

Ottaviano?

[furiofromnaples]

Paul Ricca aka Felice De Lucia family lived near my town and more old men tell of the bags of dollars that Ricca send to the family during the years.

Ottaviano?

Yes.

[PolackTony]

Paul Ricca aka Felice De Lucia family lived near my town and more old men tell of the bags of dollars that Ricca send to the family during the years.

Ottaviano?

Yes.

Ricca was born in Napoli but the family relocated to Ottaviano when he was young and his four sisters were all born in Ottaviano. I’m sure you already know, but Ricca’s sister Anna Clementina married Enrico Iervolino, long time mayor of Ottaviano. Iervolino even travelled to Chicago to attend Ricca’s funeral in ‘72. Ricca maintained ties to Italy his whole life, so aside from being a Camorrista of the old school “Bella Società” as a young man my belief is that he likely had connections to the resurgent Camorra in post-WW2 Campania.

[ChicagoOutfit]

Off topic but what is the etymology of the word Camorra...I’ve heard it was some sort of gambling game called Mora/Morra and it was a blend of saying “capo morra”
As in the boss of the gambling.

[furiofromnaples]

Off topic but what is the etymology of the word Camorra...I’ve heard it was some sort of gambling game called Mora/Morra and it was a blend of saying “capo morra”
As in the boss of the gambling.

Yes the morra was a street game and the guappo must settle the dispites between street gamblers; another is that "fare camorra" = "use the violence for risolve a problem" is the origin of the word.

[JeremyTheJew]

Interesting because YAKUZA got it's name from same thing

[furiofromnaples]

Interesting because YAKUZA got it's name from same thing

The gambling along with the prostitution was the most common rackets of the past oc groups.


The name yakuza originates from the traditional Japanese card game Oicho-Kabu, a game in which the goal is to draw three cards adding up to a score of 9. If the sum of the cards exceeds 10, its second digit is used as the score instead, and if the sum is exactly 10, the score is 0. If the three cards drawn are 8-9-3 (pronounced ya-ku-sa in Japanese), the sum is 20 and therefore the score is zero, making it the worst possible hand that can be drawn.

[JeremyTheJew]

Interesting because YAKUZA got it's name from same thing

The gambling along with the prostitution was the most common rackets of the past oc groups.


The name yakuza originates from the traditional Japanese card game Oicho-Kabu, a game in which the goal is to draw three cards adding up to a score of 9. If the sum of the cards exceeds 10, its second digit is used as the score instead, and if the sum is exactly 10, the score is 0. If the three cards drawn are 8-9-3 (pronounced ya-ku-sa in Japanese), the sum is 20 and therefore the score is zero, making it the worst possible hand that can be drawn.

Yes translates over to mean "the unlucky ones".

Very similar to what being said about camorra