Wild Bill

Discuss all mafia families in the U.S., Canada, Italy, and everywhere else in the world.

Moderator: Capos

Post Reply
desertdog
Straightened out
Posts: 112
Joined: Mon May 03, 2021 2:39 pm

Wild Bill

Post by desertdog »

Why was Wild Bill wacked and by who? The guy was a rising star.
Did his son quit the life?
User avatar
TallGuy19
Full Patched
Posts: 1585
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:34 am

Re: Wild Bill

Post by TallGuy19 »

There was bad blood between him and the Persicos after the third war, and Allie Boy was worried about Cutolo trying to take over the family while he was in prison.

His son became an informant after his murder.
"A thug changes, and love changes, and best friends become strangers. Word up."
Amershire_Ed
Full Patched
Posts: 1030
Joined: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:20 pm

Re: Wild Bill

Post by Amershire_Ed »

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6464&p=160644&hili ... er#p160644

Good discussion in this thread with extremely detailed retelling by Gohn.
desertdog
Straightened out
Posts: 112
Joined: Mon May 03, 2021 2:39 pm

Re: Wild Bill

Post by desertdog »

Thanks...Good info...I'm still amazed at the degree of treachery and backstabbing in the life. I wonder if anyone ever had the balls to refuse to do a hit on a friend.
johnny_scootch
Full Patched
Posts: 3052
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:48 am

Re: Wild Bill

Post by johnny_scootch »

desertdog wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 7:24 am Why was Wild Bill wacked and by who? The guy was a rising star.
Did his son quit the life?
I'm not sure an Underboss qualifies as a 'rising star' but he certainly was a gangsters gangster.
User avatar
Shellackhead
Full Patched
Posts: 1210
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:13 pm

Re: Wild Bill

Post by Shellackhead »

I feel like Wild Bill as Boss, the Colombo’s would of been in a better state.
User avatar
Pogo The Clown
Men Of Mayhem
Posts: 14146
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:02 am

Re: Wild Bill

Post by Pogo The Clown »

If I remember right he was about to be indicted himself when he was killed. So in the long term probsbly nothing would have changed.


Pogo
It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
Hired_Goonz
Straightened out
Posts: 418
Joined: Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:16 am

Re: Wild Bill

Post by Hired_Goonz »

I wonder if Carmine the Snake advised his son to have Bill killed. If so he must have felt like quite the asshole as his kid ended up with a life sentence.
User avatar
Nurzhamba
Straightened out
Posts: 209
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:21 pm

Re: Wild Bill

Post by Nurzhamba »

Well, he was a powerful bandit and his team in the early ' 90s was responsible for many attacks and shootouts with a rival faction. Allie Persico was afraid that he might stage a coup, seize power, and become the boss. But his murder, one of the saddest moments in the Colombo family, I think...
User avatar
Shellackhead
Full Patched
Posts: 1210
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:13 pm

Re: Wild Bill

Post by Shellackhead »

Nurzhamba wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:18 am Well, he was a powerful bandit and his team in the early ' 90s was responsible for many attacks and shootouts with a rival faction. Allie Persico was afraid that he might stage a coup, seize power, and become the boss. But his murder, one of the saddest moments in the Colombo family, I think...
I think his crew alone was larger than the entire persico faction. GohnJotti has amazing info about this
User avatar
Nurzhamba
Straightened out
Posts: 209
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:21 pm

Re: Wild Bill

Post by Nurzhamba »

Shellackhead wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:26 am
Nurzhamba wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:18 am Well, he was a powerful bandit and his team in the early ' 90s was responsible for many attacks and shootouts with a rival faction. Allie Persico was afraid that he might stage a coup, seize power, and become the boss. But his murder, one of the saddest moments in the Colombo family, I think...
I think his crew alone was larger than the entire persico faction. GohnJotti has amazing info about this
It would be very cool if they made a film about the third war in the Colombo family)))at least a documentary
TwoPiece
Sergeant Of Arms
Posts: 519
Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:10 am

Re: Wild Bill

Post by TwoPiece »

desertdog wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 9:38 am Thanks...Good info...I'm still amazed at the degree of treachery and backstabbing in the life. I wonder if anyone ever had the balls to refuse to do a hit on a friend.
lucchese member johnny petrucelli refused to kill gus farace when amuso and casso told him to.. he ended up getting whacked over the refusal obviously.
newera_212
Full Patched
Posts: 1832
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:35 pm

Re: Wild Bill

Post by newera_212 »

TwoPiece wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 12:57 pm
desertdog wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 9:38 am Thanks...Good info...I'm still amazed at the degree of treachery and backstabbing in the life. I wonder if anyone ever had the balls to refuse to do a hit on a friend.
lucchese member johnny petrucelli refused to kill gus farace when amuso and casso told him to.. he ended up getting whacked over the refusal obviously.
He kind of had a point. Outside of him being a friend, he was quoted as saying "why are we doing the cops job?" - i guess when it comes to the bosses being spooked all bets are off. What's weird is that in D'Arco's book it says the cops had pulled Amuso over twice and were harassing him about Farace. It wouldn't have taken much to realize Farace wasnt with the Luccheses. There were other guys who could have gotten a drop on Farace too (like the Bonnanos he knew, or even the Scarpas who he was supposedly related to). It's weird the Luccheses stepped up and got involved with that.
Pmac2
Full Patched
Posts: 2105
Joined: Mon May 11, 2020 3:43 pm

Re: Wild Bill

Post by Pmac2 »

crazy part i think allie boy genuinly liked wild bill from what i read. that was his choice to make him underboss. i was reading he would meet with him often. something happend to wild bill in miami, some type of slight from another member towards wild bill and allie put a hit out on the guy. if he never gets indicted for that gun case on the boat in florida i dont think he would have killed wild bill. i wonder if bill really had any plans to try to take over the family. only mikey scars says he had ambition or some shit. like pogo said he was gonna get indicted anyway
TwoPiece
Sergeant Of Arms
Posts: 519
Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:10 am

Re: Wild Bill

Post by TwoPiece »

newera_212 wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 7:06 pm
TwoPiece wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 12:57 pm
desertdog wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 9:38 am Thanks...Good info...I'm still amazed at the degree of treachery and backstabbing in the life. I wonder if anyone ever had the balls to refuse to do a hit on a friend.
lucchese member johnny petrucelli refused to kill gus farace when amuso and casso told him to.. he ended up getting whacked over the refusal obviously.
He kind of had a point. Outside of him being a friend, he was quoted as saying "why are we doing the cops job?" - i guess when it comes to the bosses being spooked all bets are off. What's weird is that in D'Arco's book it says the cops had pulled Amuso over twice and were harassing him about Farace. It wouldn't have taken much to realize Farace wasnt with the Luccheses. There were other guys who could have gotten a drop on Farace too (like the Bonnanos he knew, or even the Scarpas who he was supposedly related to). It's weird the Luccheses stepped up and got involved with that.
i figure the cops were putting pressure on all the high level guys to get the word out that they were serious, and petrucelli was the one actually hiding farace so taking care of it kinda goes to the luccheses by default.
Post Reply