Question about mafia and Hispanic gangs

[furiofromnaples]

The MS 13 are present also in Milan (the L.A. of Italy) two of them almost cut off an arm of a man with a machete.

[Nick Prango]

I’d imagine the guys at the Lower end have a semi common interaction with Black & Hispanic gang bangers than the guys at the top.

Also wtf was that Zottola thing I thought it was a legit LCN hit but looks like the son did it on his own to kill his dad & bro for joker poker machines.

Also in my city they tricked a local Gangbanger into believing a FBI agent was a high ranking LCN figure from Las Vegas asking him to supply him with 20 pounds of pure meth https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/le ... le-federal

It is very dangerous for the Italian mob to do too much business with street gangs, for a few reasons. Street gangs operate in a much more open and notorious fashion, which leads to a lot more street gang members getting arrested in law enforcement sweeps than members of organized crime. Street gangs, even more than mobsters, tend to cooperate with law enforcement when they're arrested, so if you have deals with a street gang member you really run the risk that he'll get arrested and flip on you.

[Nick Prango]

Does the mob hire/work with Hispanic gangs such as MS-13, Latin kings, 18th street etc. I know that the mob is willing to work with black gangs as well as biker gangs, but i wandered if there’s a language barrier between the mob and Hispanic gangs.

Whether it's black or Hispanic gangs, there is some interaction on an occasional, ad-hoc basis. Most Hispanic gang or DTO members are going to speak at least enough English to get by. I've mentioned before that in the 2001 Genovese case, the charges included the family passing on $40,000 in counterfeit money to the Latin Kings.

Ad-hoc? If they are in the streets, you deal with whomever is bringing in money. If you sell weed, you are dealing with everyone. Arrilotta was practically gushing about the " Jamaican crew outta NY,... they were chopping bodies up".. I think he even said he like, ate at their houses, he might have meant someone else, I gotta watch it again.

Hell, look at the Bonnanos issues with messages and that Spirito kid. It becomes understandable why the Luchesse, who also has imprisoned leadership, would say, work out a deal with Bloods to smuggle cell phones into prison. Could Mancuso have benefitted from such a connection?

Business is business.... even those DiGiacomos in Sicily did business with Black Axe, in fact there was just a huge bust......

Ad hoc meaning the connections are sporadic, not consistent, etc. The Lucchese/Bloods thing is a good example. The press made a lot out of an "alliance" between the two but it was simply them working together in that instance. Not a formalized, ongoing partnership.

Back in 2006/2007 Joseph Perna and the so-called five-star general in the Nine-Trey Bloods Edwin Spears organized a sophisticated scheme to distribute heroin, cocaine, marijuana and prepaid cell phones into a New Jersey state prison. That case is the first documented example of the LCN apparently partnering with a gang such as the Bloods.The Luccheses were making a lot of money off of this financial partnership. They were supplying the money and they'were getting a cut of the profits. And at the same time what the Bloods and Spears in particular were getting was a source of funding to basically fuel the narcotics and the prepaid cell phones coming into prison.Spears and Perna talked at great length. Perna and Michael Cetta were charged with racketeering, conspiracy to distribute heroin and a host of other charges stemming, in large part, from surprisingly candid wiretapped phone conversations they had with the Bloods leader. "I want you to feel me like I feel you guys, man, But really, man, love you guys to death." Edwin Spears said to Joseph Perna on the government's tape. Perna asked Spears to to get a Blood gang member to stop extorting a Lucchese associate in prison.