"The politician, the singer and the Outfit."

[SolarSolano]

I was just curious if they still had family in the area. I always saw Chuckie English as being bad with money who went broke a lot. Him being hit in the mid 1980s from my view was a classic case of a brokester being shunned in Ferriola's new Outfit.

[PolackTony]

Great read - thank you. Was English's real name Inglesi or was that formally changed?

I believe it was "Englise."

Wasnt Inglesia or something like that?

I believe that it was originally Inglese, though “Inglesia” and “Inglisa” also appear in the records.

I have Charles Carmen English born as Calogero Inglese 1914 in Chicago to Giuseppe Inglese and Carmela Mastrosimone, both of Santa Caterina Villarmosa, Caltanissetta. Salvatore “Sam” Inglese was born 1912 in Chicago.

Incidentally, Chuckie Nicoletti’s parents were also from Santa Caterina Villarmosa.

[PolackTony]

I was just curious if they still had family in the area. I always saw Chuckie English as being bad with money who went broke a lot. Him being hit in the mid 1980s from my view was a classic case of a brokester being shunned in Ferriola's new Outfit.

Another potential factor that may have led to Chuckie getting knocked down was narcotics. My understanding was that he was supplying the Huron and Hoyne Latin Kings before his death. This section was founded in the ‘80s by the Salas brothers, who had defected from the C-Notes. Throughout the ‘80s and ‘90s the HH LKs and the C-Notes fought a bloody war over this defection and control of the attendant drug territory.

Given Grand Ave’s close association to the C-Notes, it may be important that Chuckie was backing their primary rivals and competitors.

[Villain]

Great read - thank you. Was English's real name Inglesi or was that formally changed?

I believe it was "Englise."

Wasnt Inglesia or something like that?

I believe that it was originally Inglese, though “Inglesia” and “Inglisa” also appear in the records.

I have Charles Carmen English born as Calogero Inglese 1914 in Chicago to Giuseppe Inglese and Carmela Mastrosimone, both of Santa Caterina Villarmosa, Caltanissetta. Salvatore “Sam” Inglese was born 1912 in Chicago.

Incidentally, Chuckie Nicoletti’s parents were also from Santa Caterina Villarmosa.

Thanks bud.