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calabrianwatch wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:28 am Have you guys seen this? Interesting (a bit long)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBI9etPPrvo
That was great . She is really good at explaining the complexities

It does seem like the Ndrangheta way is gaining in influence in Canada/ North America.

Has she even commented on whether they have expanded in NYC ?
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I think so - there was this report in 2018 on NYC families that she wrote that made the connection with some ndrine https://www.academia.edu/36827024/New_Y ... ollaborate
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calabrianwatch wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:09 am I think so - there was this report in 2018 on NYC families that she wrote that made the connection with some ndrine https://www.academia.edu/36827024/New_Y ... ollaborate
Facinating and a must read.

It just makes sense with Calabrians influence expanding all over the world that they would eventually look to expand in NY. Very interesting about wanting to set up a coke pipeline to NY

It’s seems Calabrians could be giving local mafia a shot in the arm more recently
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The coke pipeline was the thing they were looking at with the Ursino/Zappia etc in Operation New Bridge and Operation Columbus too...I don't think there is any way to 'change' the 5 families into a Calabrian regime :D but certainly they can work within the rankings, wouldn't be the first time!
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as I follow her on twitter came across this just today https://twitter.com/annasergi/status/13 ... 51392?s=20 which does touch upon some of the NY stuff but not quite...
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Penisi says there where some Ndrangheta guys on Staten Island and they all went from oldest to youngest to say goodbye to him.

I definitely see them doing drug Trafficking in Ports where LCN still has sway
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calabrianwatch wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:48 am The coke pipeline was the thing they were looking at with the Ursino/Zappia etc in Operation New Bridge and Operation Columbus too...I don't think there is any way to 'change' the 5 families into a Calabrian regime :D but certainly they can work within the rankings, wouldn't be the first time!
I was more implying that they have new possible business partners with liquidity , networks/ businesses and a similar way of life.

Also interesting she has them working more with Westside and Gambinos who have a lot of the say on local mob politics / business .

I’m very impressed with her way of thinking. I do think the Calabrians are just getting started with their NY expansion. It’s the next logical move.

Isn’t the Westside more Calabrian then Sicilian compared with other families ?
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Dave65827 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:00 pm Penisi says there where some Ndrangheta guys on Staten Island and they all went from oldest to youngest to say goodbye to him.

I definitely see them doing drug Trafficking in Ports where LCN still has sway
Calabrian International expansion seems to start with Restaurants then money laundering / drug trafficking + reinvesting.

I would suspect they are still small in NY but who really knows , they seem capable of flooding NYC with coke when the time is right.
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I don't know whether that matters...but the Commisso Aquino-Coluccio active in Canada are long established in NY so that might be the bridge across the border??
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The waterfront commission is in fact interested in the port and the Calabrian ties...that I know!
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It seems the majority of 'Ndrangheta/NY LCN cooperation, at least so far, has been brokering drugs for shipment to Europe. Not to New York or elsewhere in the U.S.
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Yes, I believe so . started another thread on that :D
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The Papalia/Italiano? Would it have any relevancy? I’ve heard that they may a presence in Australia.

Rocco Papalia was released from prison a couple years ago and appears to have lawsuit against the State within the last couple years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibUdGYT ... ex=30&t=4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAETRXe ... L&index=32
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That is a whole other story :) Papalia might be from either Delianuova or Platì - the Delianuova ones are the ones in bed with Italiano and yes they have a presence in Australia, but also in the North of Italy - Antonio Papalia was the undisputed boss of the Lombardia. they were also linked - business wise - to the Papalia in Hamilton. But I have not seen anything in NY (unless we consider the Niagara part...)
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linked to the ndrangheta maxi trial on my twitter today https://shoc.rusi.org/informer/calabria ... nd-village
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