Phil Narducci’s place in Philly’s family from 2012-2017

[HoagieNose]

Phil opened his restaurant in early 2017, and other than that one criminal incident that didn’t seem family related, by all accounts he’s not active in the current family.

But before that, there was reports for 5 years after he was released from prison, that he was involved or semi involved in the family. Running operations at a night club, and also an article about him possibly becoming boss. People had him listed as a capo at one point.

So does anyone having any insight into what exactly Phil was doing between 2012 (when he was released) until he established his restaurant in 2017 and fell off the radar ?

[chin_gigante]

In September 2013, Schratwieser reported that an "old Scarfo Family fella" was seen at 12th and Jackson having an argument with a "Ligambi regime fella" over a large beef regarding gambling pickups. He later clarified this was two brothers vs another two brothers. There's more options for who the Ligambi-aligned brothers could be, but for the Scarfo-era brothers it would have to be either the Narduccis or the Pungitores

[chin_gigante]

Think another interesting thing about this was Anastasia's report from early 2015 about the family being run by a triumvirate consisting of Mazzone, Ciancaglini and Narducci. Scott Burnstein wrote an article shortly afterwards where he said that information about the committee came from local law enforcement rather than the feds and was only a loose, informal arrangement (rather than an actual panel) where Mazzone and Ciancaglini were running things on the street while Narducci was being left to do his own thing. Based on what's come out about the hierarchy since then, Scott seems to have been right about that

[NJShore4Life]

My opinions and thoughts:

Pungitore has nothing to do with current Philly mob, if you looked at his appeals when he was doing his long bud he bashed the Philly mob (it’s all out there on paper) .

I think the feeling is mutual that he doesn’t want anything to do with the current Philly LCN and they don’t want anything to do with him. Pungitore makes a lot of legitimate money in real estate as well. There’s no incentive for him to be involved.

Does he kick up a little bit from his real estate and gambling package he’s had since the 80s? I’m 50/50 on that as he did take an oath and comes from a family that always respected this thing, plus did their bids without ratting.

Phil Narducci I think is on an island all on his own with 10th and O guys . I think the current Philly LCN guys are cool with Phil and respect him. I think Phil is just doing his own thing with a few 10th and O guys he keeps close. Is he kicking up? I’m like 60/40 on that with the 60% being that he does kick up. He’s another one that comes from a family that respected this thing and took their long bids on the chin without a peep at a young age.

I saw Phil at his restaurant the summer of 2018 (great place by the way) , he had a huge long silver cross down to his stomach like a shine rapper and was holding court at the bar with a few old timer 10th and O guys.

I feel this is an accurate assessment but I’m just making educated guesses here from what I’ve heard and seen.

-Dante

[NJShore4Life]

Nicky Whip is another one that I think is back involved but he’s on the fringes.

I’ve seen pictures of him with 10th and O guys (Johnny Garbs) and I’ve personally seen him in person with my own two eyes and stood next to him (can’t believe how short he is) in AC as he was with Stevie Gongs Casasanto who is another fringe guy.

That’s why I think Nicky Whip is back and involved but on the fringe.

-Dante

[HoagieNose]

My opinions and thoughts:

Pungitore has nothing to do with current Philly mob, if you looked at his appeals when he was doing his long bud he bashed the Philly mob (it’s all out there on paper) .

I think the feeling is mutual that he doesn’t want anything to do with the current Philly LCN and they don’t want anything to do with him. Pungitore makes a lot of legitimate money in real estate as well. There’s no incentive for him to be involved.

Does he kick up a little bit from his real estate and gambling package he’s had since the 80s? I’m 50/50 on that as he did take an oath and comes from a family that always respected this thing, plus did their bids without ratting.

Phil Narducci I think is on an island all on his own with 10th and O guys . I think the current Philly LCN guys are cool with Phil and respect him. I think Phil is just doing his own thing with a few 10th and O guys he keeps close. Is he kicking up? I’m like 60/40 on that with the 60% being that he does kick up. He’s another one that comes from a family that respected this thing and took their long bids on the chin without a peep at a young age.

I saw Phil at his restaurant the summer of 2018 (great place by the way) , he had a huge long silver cross down to his stomach like a shine rapper and was holding court at the bar with a few old timer 10th and O guys.

I feel this is an accurate assessment but I’m just making educated guesses here from what I’ve heard and seen.

-Dante

I thought Phil had a big falling out with Johnny Garbs, but maybe that was just with him and not the whole crew?

[NJShore4Life]

Dew Micali is the one who had a falling out with Johnny Garbs and Genie Boy the leaders of 10th and O. He then gravitated towards LCN and got picked up in The Borgata bust when he moved to the shore, bought a condo in Ventnor, and ran the day to day of the big bookmaking operation Mikey Lance’s crew had going on back then outta Borgata.

[chubby]

My opinions and thoughts:

Pungitore has nothing to do with current Philly mob, if you looked at his appeals when he was doing his long bud he bashed the Philly mob (it’s all out there on paper) .

I think the feeling is mutual that he doesn’t want anything to do with the current Philly LCN and they don’t want anything to do with him. Pungitore makes a lot of legitimate money in real estate as well. There’s no incentive for him to be involved.

Does he kick up a little bit from his real estate and gambling package he’s had since the 80s? I’m 50/50 on that as he did take an oath and comes from a family that always respected this thing, plus did their bids without ratting.

Phil Narducci I think is on an island all on his own with 10th and O guys . I think the current Philly LCN guys are cool with Phil and respect him. I think Phil is just doing his own thing with a few 10th and O guys he keeps close. Is he kicking up? I’m like 60/40 on that with the 60% being that he does kick up. He’s another one that comes from a family that respected this thing and took their long bids on the chin without a peep at a young age.

I saw Phil at his restaurant the summer of 2018 (great place by the way) , he had a huge long silver cross down to his stomach like a shine rapper and was holding court at the bar with a few old timer 10th and O guys.

I feel this is an accurate assessment but I’m just making educated guesses here from what I’ve heard and seen.

-Dante

Lol I’ve seen pics of narducci with that same necklace it made me laugh. It legit reminds me of like 50 cent style rapper jewelry from the early 2000s.. super long. Before everyone started wearing fucking chokers..
It seems Phil’s criminal activity isn’t linked to anyone else if the family... what’s the current situation with his nephew ?? That he supposedly had the beef with and their was rumors going around that he got made???

[HoagieNose]

Dew Micali is the one who had a falling out with Johnny Garbs and Genie Boy the leaders of 10th and O. He then gravitated towards LCN and got picked up in The Borgata bust when he moved to the shore, bought a condo in Ventnor, and ran the day to day of the big bookmaking operation Mikey Lance’s crew had going on back then outta Borgata.

I read before that Narducci used to write to Micali from prison. How the hell did he know him? He went to prison when the dude was a kid.

[Stroccos]

My opinions and thoughts:

Pungitore has nothing to do with current Philly mob, if you looked at his appeals when he was doing his long bud he bashed the Philly mob (it’s all out there on paper) .

I think the feeling is mutual that he doesn’t want anything to do with the current Philly LCN and they don’t want anything to do with him. Pungitore makes a lot of legitimate money in real estate as well. There’s no incentive for him to be involved.

Does he kick up a little bit from his real estate and gambling package he’s had since the 80s? I’m 50/50 on that as he did take an oath and comes from a family that always respected this thing, plus did their bids without ratting.

Phil Narducci I think is on an island all on his own with 10th and O guys . I think the current Philly LCN guys are cool with Phil and respect him. I think Phil is just doing his own thing with a few 10th and O guys he keeps close. Is he kicking up? I’m like 60/40 on that with the 60% being that he does kick up. He’s another one that comes from a family that respected this thing and took their long bids on the chin without a peep at a young age.

I saw Phil at his restaurant the summer of 2018 (great place by the way) , he had a huge long silver cross down to his stomach like a shine rapper and was holding court at the bar with a few old timer 10th and O guys.

I feel this is an accurate assessment but I’m just making educated guesses here from what I’ve heard and seen.

-Dante

even a federal prosocuter in his loan sharking case contended that Narducci had no involement in with the with the current philly lcn

[NJShore4Life]

My opinions and thoughts:

Pungitore has nothing to do with current Philly mob, if you looked at his appeals when he was doing his long bud he bashed the Philly mob (it’s all out there on paper) .

I think the feeling is mutual that he doesn’t want anything to do with the current Philly LCN and they don’t want anything to do with him. Pungitore makes a lot of legitimate money in real estate as well. There’s no incentive for him to be involved.

Does he kick up a little bit from his real estate and gambling package he’s had since the 80s? I’m 50/50 on that as he did take an oath and comes from a family that always respected this thing, plus did their bids without ratting.

Phil Narducci I think is on an island all on his own with 10th and O guys . I think the current Philly LCN guys are cool with Phil and respect him. I think Phil is just doing his own thing with a few 10th and O guys he keeps close. Is he kicking up? I’m like 60/40 on that with the 60% being that he does kick up. He’s another one that comes from a family that respected this thing and took their long bids on the chin without a peep at a young age.

I saw Phil at his restaurant the summer of 2018 (great place by the way) , he had a huge long silver cross down to his stomach like a shine rapper and was holding court at the bar with a few old timer 10th and O guys.

I feel this is an accurate assessment but I’m just making educated guesses here from what I’ve heard and seen.

-Dante

Lol I’ve seen pics of narducci with that same necklace it made me laugh. It legit reminds me of like 50 cent style rapper jewelry from the early 2000s.. super long. Before everyone started wearing fucking chokers..
It seems Phil’s criminal activity isn’t linked to anyone else if the family... what’s the current situation with his nephew ?? That he supposedly had the beef with and their was rumors going around that he got made???

Phil’s nephew, which is his late sister Susan’s son- Joey Baldino is under Johnny Chang and he owns/operates Philip’s Steaks in South Philly (best cheesesteaks without a doubt in South Philly in my opinion, it’s my go to spot for cheesesteaks in South Philly) . I go there all the time whenever I’m in South Philly and I’ve only seen Joey there once working it, he was standing in the back door entrance with the door open chomping on raw vegetables like a rabbit, staring out to space flexing his muscles on a box of bread lol not jk. It’s open 24/7.

Phil Narducci started the cheesesteak stand in the 1980s before he went away. Eventually His sister Susan had it (heard it’s one of the parts of his beef with his nephew that they squeezed him out of the family businesses) and now her sons have it.

Joey and Johnny Chang got close because Joey grew up next door to Johnny Chang in Packer Park. Joey’s Dad has absolutely nothing to do with the life, straight citizen.

Word is Joey got straightened out (Sponsored by Johnny Chang supposedly), he’s a hot head on steroids with major roid rage.

He’s about around my age (36). He took a pinch as a young buck in his early 20s with his brother in the Borgata bookmaking bust, I think him and his brother worked the wire room back in South Philly if I recall correctly when they were like 21, 22 years old in The Borgata Bookmaking bust.

Joey was also picked up a few years after he got busted in the Borgata bookmaking bust on a second pinch when him and Mikey Emma beat the living piss outta some kids in the Melrose Diner late night after a night out drinking in South Philly, stabbing the kids with forks and bashing their heads in with the metal napkin dispensers.

Heard he does steroids and hes gotten into a few altercations/beefs with his Uncle Phil Narducci and they hate each other now, totally despise each other.

Word on the street is that Joey is also the one that smashed out Dom’s windows that summer and that’s why Dom couldn’t really retaliate at all because Joey is supposedly straightened out and under Johnny Chang. I’m sure it was settled with a sit down, I would bet anything as Dom is not only a Captain but respected and loved by everyone.

Joey’s Mom / Phil’s sister also died recently within the last year and a half of cancer. If you go to Philip’s Steaks in South Philly you will see a big tribute/shrine to her.



-Dante

[NJShore4Life]

I forgot to add - Dom supposedly couldn’t really retaliate against Joey for smashing out his windows because not only was Joey supposedly straightened out but also that summer Dom was under constant surveillance, very heavy scrutiny from the FBI/State Police/Philly PD Organized Crime Unit and was being watched 24/7 under constant surveillance.

[HoagieNose]

I forgot to add - Dom supposedly couldn’t really retaliate against Joey for smashing out his windows because not only was Joey supposedly straightened out but also that summer Dom was under constant surveillance, very heavy scrutiny from the FBI/State Police/Philly PD Organized Crime Unit and was being watched 24/7 under constant surveillance.

Well what was Joey’s punishment then. If he is made you can’t do that to another made guy.

[dack2001]

Financial, I'm sure. It's not 1981.

[jimmi_beans8]

probably $$$