Made guys who operated a long time with few or no arrests?

[Frank]

I would absolutely not be surprised if Michael Genovese was an informant.

Source?

I would not be surprised. This entire thread is speculation. But, Charles Porter, Lenny Strollo.......nothing ever against Genovese. Odd.

Porter couldn’t testify against anybody because he had already perjured himself a few hundred times on the witness stand in his 1990 RICO trial. Strollo never once met with Mike. Mike passed orders through a few people and met with nobody else. He was well insulated. Anything is possible but with Mike, highly unlikely. Strollo testified against nobody in Pittsburgh because he had no business in Pittsburgh. Strictly Northeast Ohio.

Was Genovese not there when Strollo was inducted?

I dont know if he was there or not. But I dont believe its mandatory for him to be there.

[bronx]

rizzo was made by tom debella way back, low key guy..

[JCB1977]

I would absolutely not be surprised if Michael Genovese was an informant.

Source?

I would not be surprised. This entire thread is speculation. But, Charles Porter, Lenny Strollo.......nothing ever against Genovese. Odd.

Porter couldn’t testify against anybody because he had already perjured himself a few hundred times on the witness stand in his 1990 RICO trial. Strollo never once met with Mike. Mike passed orders through a few people and met with nobody else. He was well insulated. Anything is possible but with Mike, highly unlikely. Strollo testified against nobody in Pittsburgh because he had no business in Pittsburgh. Strictly Northeast Ohio.

Was Genovese not there when Strollo was inducted?

He was, the only time they were in the same room with Mike. Henry Zottola and Charlie Imburgia were the two emissary’s between Lenny and Mike per Lenny testimony in a federal Court. He identified Mike as boss but never had dialog with him. Received orders from Zebo and Charlie. Mike met with very few people, he was a guy who played the the act of a gentleman farmer at his 82 acre estate.

[FriendofHenry]

I would absolutely not be surprised if Michael Genovese was an informant.

Source?

I would not be surprised. This entire thread is speculation. But, Charles Porter, Lenny Strollo.......nothing ever against Genovese. Odd.

Porter couldn’t testify against anybody because he had already perjured himself a few hundred times on the witness stand in his 1990 RICO trial. Strollo never once met with Mike. Mike passed orders through a few people and met with nobody else. He was well insulated. Anything is possible but with Mike, highly unlikely. Strollo testified against nobody in Pittsburgh because he had no business in Pittsburgh. Strictly Northeast Ohio.

Was Genovese not there when Strollo was inducted?

He was, the only time they were in the same room with Mike. Henry Zottola and Charlie Imburgia were the two emissary’s between Lenny and Mike per Lenny testimony in a federal Court. He identified Mike as boss but never had dialog with him. Received orders from Zebo and Charlie. Mike met with very few people, he was a guy who played the the act of a gentleman farmer at his 82 acre estate.

I know that what you just said about Michael communicating with Lenny through Henry and Charlie to be absolutely correct. It was Michael's way.

[TommyNoto]

Daniel leo, he was pretty much unheard of untill his arrest as acting boss

Yeah he is a good one

Chin loved him, the guy had big $ and we know nothing about him outside of being a Harlem guy. Was he a captain ?

I think he has a nephew involved ? and with his cash I’m sure Danny has $ on the street .

Would be interesting to see what happened to his crew when they got out . They were likely a strong crew

Also the “Old Man” Westside guy ( w big soortsbook) caught up in that Queens Crip murder for hire over that crazy Bonelli kid a few years ago. I believe he was caught on tape to stay the F out of that situation and also passing up a Captain roll which I think went to Petey Red kid ? His kid was obviously a regular at their club , very DL guy. That club is over flowing with locals at all time you have to assume that crew is still very strong and I believe they do things with the Asians

I wish we were able to ask Rubeo which WS crews are known to be the strongest on the street. There’s just nothing on big crews like Petey Red , the downtown Manhattan GC / Martial art, also BK crew(s) which seem to be expanding.

[TommyNoto]

Figs is the Manhattan GC / Karate guy , forgot his name. I don’t think he has done much time and he is a huge contractor in Manhattan , building multiple skyscrapers for major hotels

Also Cava from Cava construction . Boy did he sell his GC business at the right time. Did he do any time ? The guy got over $100M+ his for the sale of his company a few years ago. From Barney crew

Joe Ponte was another multi millionaire ( maybe 100+ today ) that I don’t think did a lot of time.

[Snakes]

Not sure if this has been posted but RICO-era Chicago guys who fit the subject. I'm sure that many of these guys served shorter sentences in their younger years but this will mainly focus on their careers after being made:

No indictments (it should be noted that at least four of those listed here died in their 50s or 60s of cancer or other illnesses):
Joseph Andriacchi (still alive; 88 years old)
Peter DiFronzo (died in 2020; 87 years old)
Louis Eboli (died of cancer in 1987; 52 years old)
Joseph Ferriola (served three years on gambling charges in early seventies; would have been indicted in 1990 but died the year before of heart problems; 61 years old)
James LaPietra (died of cancer in 1993; 66 years old)
Lee Magnafichi (died of cancer in 1989; 62 years old)
Vincent Solano (died in 1992; 73 years old)
Al Tornabene (died in 2009; 86 years old)

Indicted but either died before trial or were acquitted:
Anthony Accardo (acquitted 1982)
Frank "Toots" Caruso (indicted for extortion in 1982; charges later dropped)
Anthony Centracchio (died before trial)
Michael Glitta (indicted on felony gun possession; died before trial)
Pat Marcy (died before trial)
Albert Vena (acquitted of murder, 1992)

Convicted of RICO or other crimes but served short sentences (5 year or less)
John DiFronzo (convicted of RICO charges; served one year before being released on appeal)
Rudy Fratto (served two separate one-year terms for bid-rigging and tax evasion)
John Matassa, Jr. (pled guilty to embezzlement; served one year)
John Monteleone (served four-year term in late eighties for contempt of court)

[Extortion]

Ronald Carlucci of the Bonannos who just passed away at 77, had no convictions or arrests for any serious crimes.

[Jbravo]

Richie Cap... Colombo oldtimer straightened out 30 something years before passing on 2 years ago.

[joerock]

Joseph Miranda-DeCavalcante

[PolackTony]

Not sure if this has been posted but RICO-era Chicago guys who fit the subject. I'm sure that many of these guys served shorter sentences in their younger years but this will mainly focus on their careers after being made:

No indictments (it should be noted that at least four of those listed here died in their 50s or 60s of cancer or other illnesses):
Joseph Andriacchi (still alive; 88 years old)
Peter DiFronzo (died in 2020; 87 years old)
Louis Eboli (died of cancer in 1987; 52 years old)
Joseph Ferriola (served three years on gambling charges in early seventies; would have been indicted in 1990 but died the year before of heart problems; 61 years old)
James LaPietra (died of cancer in 1993; 66 years old)
Lee Magnafichi (died of cancer in 1989; 62 years old)
Vincent Solano (died in 1992; 73 years old)
Al Tornabene (died in 2009; 86 years old)

Indicted but either died before trial or were acquitted:
Anthony Accardo (acquitted 1982)
Frank "Toots" Caruso (indicted for extortion in 1982; charges later dropped)
Anthony Centracchio (died before trial)
Michael Glitta (indicted on felony gun possession; died before trial)
Pat Marcy (died before trial)
Albert Vena (acquitted of murder, 1992)

Convicted of RICO or other crimes but served short sentences (5 year or less)
John DiFronzo (convicted of RICO charges; served one year before being released on appeal)
Rudy Fratto (served two separate one-year terms for bid-rigging and tax evasion)
John Matassa, Jr. (pled guilty to embezzlement; served one year)
John Monteleone (served four-year term in late eighties for contempt of court)

Did Tornabene even have any convictions in his youth?

Andriacchi has had an amazing run given that he's been widely identified by media and LE as an Outfit boss for 30 years -- nothing since his 3 year burglary bid in '68.

[Snakes]

Not sure if this has been posted but RICO-era Chicago guys who fit the subject. I'm sure that many of these guys served shorter sentences in their younger years but this will mainly focus on their careers after being made:

No indictments (it should be noted that at least four of those listed here died in their 50s or 60s of cancer or other illnesses):
Joseph Andriacchi (still alive; 88 years old)
Peter DiFronzo (died in 2020; 87 years old)
Louis Eboli (died of cancer in 1987; 52 years old)
Joseph Ferriola (served three years on gambling charges in early seventies; would have been indicted in 1990 but died the year before of heart problems; 61 years old)
James LaPietra (died of cancer in 1993; 66 years old)
Lee Magnafichi (died of cancer in 1989; 62 years old)
Vincent Solano (died in 1992; 73 years old)
Al Tornabene (died in 2009; 86 years old)

Indicted but either died before trial or were acquitted:
Anthony Accardo (acquitted 1982)
Frank "Toots" Caruso (indicted for extortion in 1982; charges later dropped)
Anthony Centracchio (died before trial)
Michael Glitta (indicted on felony gun possession; died before trial)
Pat Marcy (died before trial)
Albert Vena (acquitted of murder, 1992)

Convicted of RICO or other crimes but served short sentences (5 year or less)
John DiFronzo (convicted of RICO charges; served one year before being released on appeal)
Rudy Fratto (served two separate one-year terms for bid-rigging and tax evasion)
John Matassa, Jr. (pled guilty to embezzlement; served one year)
John Monteleone (served four-year term in late eighties for contempt of court)

Did Tornabene even have any convictions in his youth?

Andriacchi has had an amazing run given that he's been widely identified by media and LE as an Outfit boss for 30 years -- nothing since his 3 year burglary bid in '68.

He was arrested a few times for gambling but if he served any time, it was insignificant. In the grand scheme of things, anything less than ten years during a career of crime would probably be considered "successful."