Pete DiFronzo dead from Corona Virus

[Snakes]

Interesting to see Joe Belli listed as Pete's underboss. They would be in the same cart together at all of the old golf outings for the plumbers union where D&P would sponsor holes with "Puts for Petey." Joe Belli's son is still around and I would wonder if he's still involved with the Outfit.

Andrew "Nucci" Lombardo was Joey's brother and a diamond thief. He was also a scratch golfer and owned the old driving range near Kiddie Land in Melrose Park - Nucci, Legs D'Antonio, Bobby Dominic - they would come hit balls and shut the whole place down.

I think they way that chart was structured only showed that Belli was the Union contact for the DiFronzos.

[SolarSolano]

Article about Pete difronzo getting sued for reneging On selling some land he owned by his house after he found out the guy was black lol

Mobster accused of race bias
August 12, 2006

BY STEVE WARMBIR AND STEVE PATTERSON Staff Reporter

Michael Guthrie is a successful oral surgeon who wanted to live in a multimillion-dollar home in South Barrington.

Peter DiFronzo, a reputed-made member of the Chicago mob and brother of top Chicago mobster John "No Nose" DiFronzo, was happy to sell him a vacant lot in South Barrington for about $500,000.

That is, until Peter DiFronzo found out Guthrie was black, according to a lawsuit filed in Cook County court this week.

Guthrie, who didn't know about DiFronzo's own background, is asking to get back the money he spent on an architect to design his house.

Guthrie also wants punitive damages against DiFronzo but doesn't name a dollar amount in the lawsuit.

The oral surgeon didn't return a phone message Friday, but his attorney said he's just standing up for his rights.

The deal's off

Guthrie "feels he didn't do anything to be treated that way," said attorney LaOuida Glover.

"I don't think [Guthrie] cares who they are," Glover said.

Guthrie signed a contract in April 2004 to buy the lot in the Magnolia Pointe subdivision in South Barrington, according to the lawsuit. Guthrie also agreed to other terms, including a requirement that he build a home on the lot within 18 months and that the home be more than 7,000 square feet, excluding the basement and counting the two-story foyer only once.

DiFronzo, who lives in South Barrington, owned the property but was also acting as an agent for the developer, Zitella Development Corp., according to the lawsuit.

In July 2004, developer Sam Zitella asked Guthrie's real estate agent if Guthrie was black, according to the lawsuit.

Soon after, DiFronzo's attorney sent a letter to the dentist, telling him that the deal was off because they couldn't agree to terms.

Guthrie was advised to walk away

Guthrie argues the deal died because DiFronzo didn't want to sell to a black man.
Guthrie's real estate agent and lawyer suggested Guthrie take his earnest money and walk away because DiFronzo "apparently would make every step of the way difficult for [Guthrie] including living in his new home on the lot," according to the lawsuit.
DiFronzo and Zitella did not return phone messages on Friday.
The Sun-Times reported business ties between the two men in a November 2005 story. Zitella, a well-known developer, has been a long-time customer of DiFronzo's company, D & P Construction, using the company's Dumpsters. While D & P is in the name of Peter DiFronzo's wife, law enforcement authorities believe Peter DiFronzo controls it.

Sam Zitella's house is sight to see - but that guy is wealthy beyond wealthy. I think he had more money than Pete actually - he would drive around Oakbrook in a rolls royce.

https://homesoftherich.net/2011/02/2350 ... ington-il/

[SolarSolano]

Interesting to see Joe Belli listed as Pete's underboss. They would be in the same cart together at all of the old golf outings for the plumbers union where D&P would sponsor holes with "Puts for Petey." Joe Belli's son is still around and I would wonder if he's still involved with the Outfit.

Andrew "Nucci" Lombardo was Joey's brother and a diamond thief. He was also a scratch golfer and owned the old driving range near Kiddie Land in Melrose Park - Nucci, Legs D'Antonio, Bobby Dominic - they would come hit balls and shut the whole place down.

I think they way that chart was structured only showed that Belli was the Union contact for the DiFronzos.

Belli JR. took over Local 727 from Joe Talarico if I'm not mistaken. That's the same union Coli runs today - I believe Belli Jr. may have been forced to retire. Joseph Belli Sr. from my view was a member of the Elmwood Park Crew under Cerone then later DiFronzo - he passed in 2012.

[funkster]

Gee, think Zitella gets some cush contracts?

Snakes, do you know what Binders purpose is in collecting them? He hasn’t seemingly written a book in quite some time and he’s obviously very protective of his collection. Is it for personal enjoyment or does he want to release something at some point?

Well, he got more protective once people started sharing his images without his permission. He spent a lot of time and effort to get that collection. I remember him posting a bunch of photos in a Facebook group and asking that they not be shared only to have them show up on Pinterest within a day or two. If I invested all of those resources into my collection only to have some geek glom them for his own use I would be frustrated, too. Local PD's really don't care about keeping things like mugshots and surveillance photos years after the fact. Even one as large as Chicago PD don't want them lying around taking up space as they have literally tons and tons of files they need to find space for.

I believe John worked something out with them where he was able to get some of their older items and save them from destruction or banishment to some warehouse. Technically, federal mugs aren't public record although most of the time they are voluntarily released or provided in the event of a request. Local law enforcement mugshots are normally public record so they probably worked something out where they donated to John as a local historian with a good reputation, similar to how they would a public library.

Totally get that, I guess I'm asking if he plans to display them or put them in a book at some point. It would be a shame to never see them to those of us that would love to.

Pete, dunno that's what he said. Specifically mentioned that he wouldn't take his gangster tour to places like Elmwood or Melrose. Stuck to River Forest and Oak Park where the older guys had their houses. Mentioned it in the comments of one of the fb groups two or three years ago.

[funkster]

Article about Pete difronzo getting sued for reneging On selling some land he owned by his house after he found out the guy was black lol

Mobster accused of race bias
August 12, 2006

BY STEVE WARMBIR AND STEVE PATTERSON Staff Reporter

Michael Guthrie is a successful oral surgeon who wanted to live in a multimillion-dollar home in South Barrington.

Peter DiFronzo, a reputed-made member of the Chicago mob and brother of top Chicago mobster John "No Nose" DiFronzo, was happy to sell him a vacant lot in South Barrington for about $500,000.

That is, until Peter DiFronzo found out Guthrie was black, according to a lawsuit filed in Cook County court this week.

Guthrie, who didn't know about DiFronzo's own background, is asking to get back the money he spent on an architect to design his house.

Guthrie also wants punitive damages against DiFronzo but doesn't name a dollar amount in the lawsuit.

The oral surgeon didn't return a phone message Friday, but his attorney said he's just standing up for his rights.

The deal's off

Guthrie "feels he didn't do anything to be treated that way," said attorney LaOuida Glover.

"I don't think [Guthrie] cares who they are," Glover said.

Guthrie signed a contract in April 2004 to buy the lot in the Magnolia Pointe subdivision in South Barrington, according to the lawsuit. Guthrie also agreed to other terms, including a requirement that he build a home on the lot within 18 months and that the home be more than 7,000 square feet, excluding the basement and counting the two-story foyer only once.

DiFronzo, who lives in South Barrington, owned the property but was also acting as an agent for the developer, Zitella Development Corp., according to the lawsuit.

In July 2004, developer Sam Zitella asked Guthrie's real estate agent if Guthrie was black, according to the lawsuit.

Soon after, DiFronzo's attorney sent a letter to the dentist, telling him that the deal was off because they couldn't agree to terms.

Guthrie was advised to walk away

Guthrie argues the deal died because DiFronzo didn't want to sell to a black man.
Guthrie's real estate agent and lawyer suggested Guthrie take his earnest money and walk away because DiFronzo "apparently would make every step of the way difficult for [Guthrie] including living in his new home on the lot," according to the lawsuit.
DiFronzo and Zitella did not return phone messages on Friday.
The Sun-Times reported business ties between the two men in a November 2005 story. Zitella, a well-known developer, has been a long-time customer of DiFronzo's company, D & P Construction, using the company's Dumpsters. While D & P is in the name of Peter DiFronzo's wife, law enforcement authorities believe Peter DiFronzo controls it.

Sam Zitella's house is sight to see - but that guy is wealthy beyond wealthy. I think he had more money than Pete actually - he would drive around Oakbrook in a rolls royce.

https://homesoftherich.net/2011/02/2350 ... ington-il/

Interesting that he and Pete both were in Barrington, wasn't Cecola's monster house out in Barrington too?

[PolackTony]

Interesting that he and Pete both were in Barrington, wasn't Cecola's monster house out in Barrington too?

Yep.

[SolarSolano]

Lots of mob guys moved to those north suburbs - that's where Accardo died I think. Solly D's kids went to Barrington HS I think too or at least Sol Jr. did.

Marco D'Amico lived in Inverness with his daughter when he was released. Nino Cisternini was a Chicago Heights guy who also and retired in Barrington Hills when he got out of prison. It's about 30 mins to Lake Geneva where a lot of these guys have houses.

[Snakes]

Lots of mob guys moved to those north suburbs - that's where Accardo died I think. Solly D's kids went to Barrington HS I think too or at least Sol Jr. did.

Marco D'Amico lived in Inverness with his daughter when he was released. Nino Cisternini was a Chicago Heights guy who also and retired in Barrington Hills when he got out of prison. It's about 30 mins to Lake Geneva where a lot of these guys have houses.

Joe Amato lived there, too.

[funkster]

I mean, Barrington is also where a lot of "new" money goes. Lot of Mcmansions out there.

[funkster]

I dont believe Gary Gags is dead. He was mentioned by Mags in one of the Fosco interviews a four or five years ago as being someone he was concerned about offending by giving the interview. My guess is he should be considered a likely member. I also find it very hard to fathom that Spina is not also a member.

Yeah I haven't seen anything else stating Gary Gags died so I wanted to throw it out there to see if anyone else had further info. I'm assuming myself that he's alive until proven otherwise.

And agreed on Spina, but stranger things have happened in the world of the Chicago Mafia. I would've absolutely assumed that Marco D'Amico was made as well. If Spina was made, and Vena for that matter, the questions remain of when and by whom and with what sponsors, etc. Seems pretty likely to me that there were making ceremonies that Nicky Calabrese hadn't disclosed either because he didn't know about them or they occurred after he got pinched.

We just have so little to go on for Chicago and huge holes remain in our understanding of their inner workings and hierarchy for significant periods of time. Hopefully some of this will be cleared up in future unredacted versions of the documents that Snakes has referenced. Otherwise we're left waiting for one of the remaining made guys to flip and spill the beans. It's fully possible that the guys left take their secrets to the grave like Lombardo and so many others, and we may very well remain in the dark about much of the Outfit's history.

I don't think he would have even known about the 1988 ceremony if DiForti hadn't been a part of it. I believe that's the whole reason LaPietra forwarded him the info. I believe Nick even went so far as to say that LaPietra was not supposed to have disclosed that information. Chicago obviously had its share of gossips but by keeping the number of made members down, not having more than two significant made snitches within the past 30ish years (only one of whom fully cooperated), and keeping the disclosure of information to a minimum or on a need-to-know basis (even as far as bosses were concerned) has made it extremely difficult to discern the structure of the organization as well as who was made. Obviously, there are sources known only to the FBI (at least until a few more guys croak) that allow for a better understanding but none that has been readily available to the public. All of the above have made it extremely difficult to get an accurate hold on things, even in comparison to tight-lipped families on the East Coast, like the Genovese (whose hierarchy is similarly muddled).

I think this is probably correct. As I recall, he even said there were made guys he heard about in later years that he didnt know at all.

The feds have had zero reason to release an updated number, if there is one, it would be weird if they did.

Yes it seems like the outfit purposely kept a lot of that information unknown to other members. For instance they would use guys from different crews who didn’t know each other. I believe on the spilotro brothers hit there were 3 guys that he had know idea who they were and I don’t believe were ever identified. I believe it was the 3 guys that killed tony. If I remember correctly nick, Louie eboli, and Lou mArino killed Michael while the other 3 guys killed Tony. Contrary to popular belief according to nick, carlisi, ferriola, difronzo, and marcello were upstairs while the brothers were killed in the basement and did not take part in the actual killing

In addition a separate crew, Chicago heights buried them to keep the guys who killed them from knowing where they were buried

Re-reading the FS testimony there's no doubt about this to me anymore. They're starting him out by asking him to testify about structure and he's describing the various crews. They ask him about Grand Avenue and he says Lombardo is the crew boss...but that he didnt know anyone else in it...just that one of them was named "Jimmy". And this is a guy who was made 20 years prior to his testimony give or take.

[ChicagoOutfit]

I dont believe Gary Gags is dead. He was mentioned by Mags in one of the Fosco interviews a four or five years ago as being someone he was concerned about offending by giving the interview. My guess is he should be considered a likely member. I also find it very hard to fathom that Spina is not also a member.

Yeah I haven't seen anything else stating Gary Gags died so I wanted to throw it out there to see if anyone else had further info. I'm assuming myself that he's alive until proven otherwise.

And agreed on Spina, but stranger things have happened in the world of the Chicago Mafia. I would've absolutely assumed that Marco D'Amico was made as well. If Spina was made, and Vena for that matter, the questions remain of when and by whom and with what sponsors, etc. Seems pretty likely to me that there were making ceremonies that Nicky Calabrese hadn't disclosed either because he didn't know about them or they occurred after he got pinched.

We just have so little to go on for Chicago and huge holes remain in our understanding of their inner workings and hierarchy for significant periods of time. Hopefully some of this will be cleared up in future unredacted versions of the documents that Snakes has referenced. Otherwise we're left waiting for one of the remaining made guys to flip and spill the beans. It's fully possible that the guys left take their secrets to the grave like Lombardo and so many others, and we may very well remain in the dark about much of the Outfit's history.

I don't think he would have even known about the 1988 ceremony if DiForti hadn't been a part of it. I believe that's the whole reason LaPietra forwarded him the info. I believe Nick even went so far as to say that LaPietra was not supposed to have disclosed that information. Chicago obviously had its share of gossips but by keeping the number of made members down, not having more than two significant made snitches within the past 30ish years (only one of whom fully cooperated), and keeping the disclosure of information to a minimum or on a need-to-know basis (even as far as bosses were concerned) has made it extremely difficult to discern the structure of the organization as well as who was made. Obviously, there are sources known only to the FBI (at least until a few more guys croak) that allow for a better understanding but none that has been readily available to the public. All of the above have made it extremely difficult to get an accurate hold on things, even in comparison to tight-lipped families on the East Coast, like the Genovese (whose hierarchy is similarly muddled).

I think this is probably correct. As I recall, he even said there were made guys he heard about in later years that he didnt know at all.

The feds have had zero reason to release an updated number, if there is one, it would be weird if they did.

Yes it seems like the outfit purposely kept a lot of that information unknown to other members. For instance they would use guys from different crews who didn’t know each other. I believe on the spilotro brothers hit there were 3 guys that he had know idea who they were and I don’t believe were ever identified. I believe it was the 3 guys that killed tony. If I remember correctly nick, Louie eboli, and Lou mArino killed Michael while the other 3 guys killed Tony. Contrary to popular belief according to nick, carlisi, ferriola, difronzo, and marcello were upstairs while the brothers were killed in the basement and did not take part in the actual killing

In addition a separate crew, Chicago heights buried them to keep the guys who killed them from knowing where they were buried

Re-reading the FS testimony there's no doubt about this to me anymore. They're starting him out by asking him to testify about structure and he's describing the various crews. They ask him about Grand Avenue and he says Lombardo is the crew boss...but that he didnt know anyone else in it...just that one of them was named "Jimmy". And this is a guy who was made 20 years prior to his testimony give or take.

Where can I read the testimony? plz n thx

[FriendofFamily]

What club?

I think FOH is talking about an Italian-American club, if I'm not mistaken.

lol yeah, i'm hoping he'll spill the beans.

FOF isn't going to spill the beans, I need them for pasta fagioli. A nice Club.

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[FriendofHenry]

What club?

I think FOH is talking about an Italian-American club, if I'm not mistaken.

lol yeah, i'm hoping he'll spill the beans.

FOF isn't going to spill the beans, I need them for pasta fagioli. A nice Club.

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Cheech said it best in another thread: "Those who know don't tell and those that speak do not know"

[SolarSolano]

Agreed - I've always felt the crews in Chicago were very much like different families - some interacted, many didn't.

I would only add however, that Nick C didn't seem much of a 'go-getter' like his brother - who certainly knew everyone in various crews or at least who other made guys were - that is clear from the video recordings of convos with his son where he talks about Joey West/East and Spilotro, Centracchio and some of these other guys. Some of these made guys were real earners who went out and made connections - other guys like Nick seem to have just sat back and did what they were told. Nick was a worker - not an earner - I don't think the workers were told much.

Nick also said he knew the Spilotros who worked for Lombardo, right? Jimmy was clearly - Jimmy Legs D'Antonio. I think Cozzo was more of a lackey.

[PolackTony]

I dont believe Gary Gags is dead. He was mentioned by Mags in one of the Fosco interviews a four or five years ago as being someone he was concerned about offending by giving the interview. My guess is he should be considered a likely member. I also find it very hard to fathom that Spina is not also a member.

Yeah I haven't seen anything else stating Gary Gags died so I wanted to throw it out there to see if anyone else had further info. I'm assuming myself that he's alive until proven otherwise.

And agreed on Spina, but stranger things have happened in the world of the Chicago Mafia. I would've absolutely assumed that Marco D'Amico was made as well. If Spina was made, and Vena for that matter, the questions remain of when and by whom and with what sponsors, etc. Seems pretty likely to me that there were making ceremonies that Nicky Calabrese hadn't disclosed either because he didn't know about them or they occurred after he got pinched.

We just have so little to go on for Chicago and huge holes remain in our understanding of their inner workings and hierarchy for significant periods of time. Hopefully some of this will be cleared up in future unredacted versions of the documents that Snakes has referenced. Otherwise we're left waiting for one of the remaining made guys to flip and spill the beans. It's fully possible that the guys left take their secrets to the grave like Lombardo and so many others, and we may very well remain in the dark about much of the Outfit's history.

I don't think he would have even known about the 1988 ceremony if DiForti hadn't been a part of it. I believe that's the whole reason LaPietra forwarded him the info. I believe Nick even went so far as to say that LaPietra was not supposed to have disclosed that information. Chicago obviously had its share of gossips but by keeping the number of made members down, not having more than two significant made snitches within the past 30ish years (only one of whom fully cooperated), and keeping the disclosure of information to a minimum or on a need-to-know basis (even as far as bosses were concerned) has made it extremely difficult to discern the structure of the organization as well as who was made. Obviously, there are sources known only to the FBI (at least until a few more guys croak) that allow for a better understanding but none that has been readily available to the public. All of the above have made it extremely difficult to get an accurate hold on things, even in comparison to tight-lipped families on the East Coast, like the Genovese (whose hierarchy is similarly muddled).

I think this is probably correct. As I recall, he even said there were made guys he heard about in later years that he didnt know at all.

The feds have had zero reason to release an updated number, if there is one, it would be weird if they did.

Yes it seems like the outfit purposely kept a lot of that information unknown to other members. For instance they would use guys from different crews who didn’t know each other. I believe on the spilotro brothers hit there were 3 guys that he had know idea who they were and I don’t believe were ever identified. I believe it was the 3 guys that killed tony. If I remember correctly nick, Louie eboli, and Lou mArino killed Michael while the other 3 guys killed Tony. Contrary to popular belief according to nick, carlisi, ferriola, difronzo, and marcello were upstairs while the brothers were killed in the basement and did not take part in the actual killing

In addition a separate crew, Chicago heights buried them to keep the guys who killed them from knowing where they were buried

Re-reading the FS testimony there's no doubt about this to me anymore. They're starting him out by asking him to testify about structure and he's describing the various crews. They ask him about Grand Avenue and he says Lombardo is the crew boss...but that he didnt know anyone else in it...just that one of them was named "Jimmy". And this is a guy who was made 20 years prior to his testimony give or take.

Where can I read the testimony? plz n thx

They used to have the FS trial exhibits and other items available on the IL US Attorney's site. They even had audio recordings, I recall they had a wire recording of Tony Spilotro and Frankie Schweihs for example. These don't seem to be available anymore on justice.gov or the IL North USAO archive site.

Anyone know if these are still available to the public?