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Most of us read or heard about Carlisi's stand towards possible informants like in Jeeps Daddino's case, and here's also the same case but from Alex's point of view...this is a small piece from my old article on Alex...

The biggest problem for Alex started on September 29, 1989, when two Grand Avenue crew members Anthony Daddino and Frank Schweihs were found guilty and convicted on many charges. One thing was that Schweihs was a killer and a stand up guy, so the Outfit wasn’t afraid of him, but Daddino was a different situation and so the bosses had other plans for him. They paid Daddino’s bond and he was released, but there was another problem.

Through his contacts, Gus Alex received information that an extortion case was under way and that Mario Rainone was the “main star”. Alex feared that Rainone knew and might talk about the fact that Alex took a cut from every extortion that Rainone previously committed, so the old man ordered the other old man Lenny Patrick to take care of the job. So Patrick took the problem to James Marcello who in turn orchestrated an old Outfit “trick” when one man was ordered to kill another and then both were slain at the same time by another hit team.

But during the hit, Rainone, the second target, who came to kill Daddino, suddenly spotted the other hit team and fled the scene in panic. This was a disaster. So one thing led to another and Rainone, fearing for his life, decided to call the FBI and told them that he was ready to cooperate. Rainone had cooperated with the government briefly by joining the witness protection program because he feared a hit had been put out on him. But when the Outfit got wind of the situation, they bombed and blew to bits the front porch of his mother’s home. The bomb was placed by Nick Calabrese on the orders of Jimmy Marcello. Rainone got the message and eventually stopped cooperating and pleaded guilty to extortion charges and was sentenced to 17½ years in prison.

So now everything seemed to be back in normal and Alex felt safe again and in the end Daddino never spoke about anything to anyone, or in other words he was a stand up guy at the time, meaning this was a big misunderstanding. Besides that, huge paranoia still clouded the thoughts of old man Alex and made him do stupid actions which later will cost him highly.

One day Lenny Patrick called Alex and arranged a meeting. Alex told Patrick to meet him on the upper floor in a hallway at the Northwestern Hospital on Chicago’s Near North Side. It was just like in the Sopranos series. Patrick allegedly had an issue with some union official and needed Alex’s advice on the payments and extortion methods and on top of that, they also discussed the whole set up in the Daddino conspiracy.
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Villain wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:57 am Most of us read or heard about Carlisi's stand towards possible informants like in Jeeps Daddino's case, and here's also the same case but from Alex's point of view...this is a small piece from my old article on Alex...

The biggest problem for Alex started on September 29, 1989, when two Grand Avenue crew members Anthony Daddino and Frank Schweihs were found guilty and convicted on many charges. One thing was that Schweihs was a killer and a stand up guy, so the Outfit wasn’t afraid of him, but Daddino was a different situation and so the bosses had other plans for him. They paid Daddino’s bond and he was released, but there was another problem.

Through his contacts, Gus Alex received information that an extortion case was under way and that Mario Rainone was the “main star”. Alex feared that Rainone knew and might talk about the fact that Alex took a cut from every extortion that Rainone previously committed, so the old man ordered the other old man Lenny Patrick to take care of the job. So Patrick took the problem to James Marcello who in turn orchestrated an old Outfit “trick” when one man was ordered to kill another and then both were slain at the same time by another hit team.

But during the hit, Rainone, the second target, who came to kill Daddino, suddenly spotted the other hit team and fled the scene in panic. This was a disaster. So one thing led to another and Rainone, fearing for his life, decided to call the FBI and told them that he was ready to cooperate. Rainone had cooperated with the government briefly by joining the witness protection program because he feared a hit had been put out on him. But when the Outfit got wind of the situation, they bombed and blew to bits the front porch of his mother’s home. The bomb was placed by Nick Calabrese on the orders of Jimmy Marcello. Rainone got the message and eventually stopped cooperating and pleaded guilty to extortion charges and was sentenced to 17½ years in prison.

So now everything seemed to be back in normal and Alex felt safe again and in the end Daddino never spoke about anything to anyone, or in other words he was a stand up guy at the time, meaning this was a big misunderstanding. Besides that, huge paranoia still clouded the thoughts of old man Alex and made him do stupid actions which later will cost him highly.

One day Lenny Patrick called Alex and arranged a meeting. Alex told Patrick to meet him on the upper floor in a hallway at the Northwestern Hospital on Chicago’s Near North Side. It was just like in the Sopranos series. Patrick allegedly had an issue with some union official and needed Alex’s advice on the payments and extortion methods and on top of that, they also discussed the whole set up in the Daddino conspiracy.
Ill have to reread your article about Alex. Im not saying I agree with Fosco, and he could be reffering to after Alex was sent away.But he could be plain wrong. I was just throwing it out there to see if anyone might have that info. Just like his article about DiFronzo being a rat. Back then they would kill you just on suspicion. Its was not like today where the rats walk around giving guided tours lol. Back to Alex, I wouldnt think they would have the balls to fuck with him as long as Accardo was alive.
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Frank wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:06 am
Ill have to reread your article about Alex. Im not saying I agree with Fosco, and he could be reffering to after Alex was sent away.But he could be plain wrong. I was just throwing it out there to see if anyone might have that info. Just like his article about DiFronzo being a rat. Back then they would kill you just on suspicion. Its was not like today where the rats walk around giving guided tours lol. Back to Alex, I wouldnt think they would have the balls to fuck with him as long as Accardo was alive.
Maybe Fosco was thinking about the problem with Lenny Patrick who in turn was under Alex. You see, according to Patrick both Carlisi and John DiFronzo allegedly muscled him out of the "street taxes" and remained only in the shylock biz. Patrick told this during the trial and Alex’s lawyers saw a chance to make it clear that Patrick received orders from DiFrozno and Cralisi, not Alex. But Patrick defended himself by saying "Come on, come on, you're getting out of the tune there," "Now you're trying to tell me I didn't give Alex any of the profits from extortions. That's out, that's out."

Alex wanted to retire from the Mob since the late 1960s but he wasnt allowed by Accardo, probably until Alexs imprisonment (the same time when Accardo died) which possibly corresponds to an extent with what you said.
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In addition, something about Patrick's final years as informant for the feds....

In 1989, the feds raided Lenny Patrick’s home and found many incriminating documents that involved many members of his crew and also certain intelligence that he was involved with Gus Alex. The feds also played to Patrick some of the tapes that his associate Rainone previously recorded.

The old man took off his reading glasses and thought about the 50 years time period of loyalty to the Outfit and felt tired. Patrick didn’t want to die in jail so he agreed to cooperate too. Also few months later another member of Patrick’s crew, Gary Edwards, began cooperating with the FBI.

By the end of 1989 Rainone had cooperated with the government briefly by joining the witness protection program because he feared a hit had been put out on him. But when the Outfit got wind of the situation, they bombed and blew to bits the front porch of his mother’s home. The bomb was placed by Nick Calabrese on the orders of Jimmy Marcello.

Rainone got the message and eventually stopped cooperating and pled guilty to extortion charges and was sentenced to 17½ years in prison. "He didn't tell them anything," his lawyer said.

Also word got to the Outfit regarding Edwards’ possible cooperation with the feds, and so now the top guys ordered Patrick to shut down his loan operation. But despite the order, Patrick continued to funnel Edwards with a $ 5,000 payment to Carlisi's crew through LaValley.

Patrick was a very smart guy. He persuaded LaValley to talk to Zizzo to overrule the order and allow the crew to resume its loansharking activities. But later LaValley heard that Edwards was really cooperating with the FBI, became frightened, returned the money to Patrick, and called Zizzo to ask if he would be rubbed out for unwittingly aiding Edwards. Zizzo told LaValley not to worry and that he would let Marcello and Carlisi know of Edwards' defection.

In 1990, Lenny Patrick took the situation in his own hands. He called Gus Alex and arranged a meeting, while wearing a wiretap. Patrick managed to secretly tape a recording where he and Alex discussed payments to an unnamed union official.

But Patrick’s cooperation with the feds came to a halt when the government realised that he still continued to pocket money from illegal activities even after the FBI paid him $7,200 over two months. For example, when Rainone went with the feds, old man Lenny started personally collecting the monthly extortion payments. So the government indicted him on racketeering and extortion charges and tossed him in jail.

The indictment was handed down in 1991, which charged Patrick, Nicholas Gio, Mario Rainone and Gus Alex with various offences. James LaValley was also mentioned in the indictment but he also decided to cooperate with the feds.

Lenny Patrick was a guy that would sell his mother short. He entered a guilty plea to extorting more than $300,000 from two restaurants and a car dealership and attempting to shake down other businesses and to avoid a long jail term he agreed, once more, to testify against Gus Alex.

But before Patrick went to trial, on May 19, 1992 his daughter parked her 1987 BMW in the driveway of her home in Rogers Park. Several minutes later the car exploded and the bomb left a driveway crater 5 inches deep and 2 feet across. It was probably activated by remote control, perhaps by someone positioned nearby on North California Avenue, in view of the house.

Nobody was hurt during the blast. One of the cops that investigated the explosion, told the reporters that "If the motive for the bombing was to get Patrick to shut up, I don't think it will work," "Lenny and Sharon Patrick don't get along. They haven't spoken to one another in years. So I doubt the bombing is going to seriously upset him."

The cop was right. On September 16, 17, 18, 21 and 22, 1992, Patrick testified in a packed courtroom in the Dirksen Federal Building, against his former associates. The old man talked in foul language and made jokes from time to time. In other words he was like your typical uncle, laughing and making cracks.

When asked about the 1947 slaying of bookmaker Harry “the Horse” Krotish, Patrick said "I did murder him, but he didn't have a horse," "If he did, I would have jumped on it and run with it." Also when Patrick recalled his involvement in the murders of Herman Glick, Edward Murphy, David Zatz and Milton Glickman, one of the lawyers asked if he had killed anyone other than the murders he mentioned, Patrick replied, "No, I've run out of cemeteries."

One of Alex’s lawyers attacked Patrick and called him an "evil incarnate," "this diabolical piece of slime" and "one of the most cunning, conniving, evil, twisted people that you'll ever see." "There's no limit to this man," the lawyer said of Patrick "There's no limit to what he will do or say." Patrick replied "Yes. I am the dirtiest thing living on Earth. I don't have feelings for anybody. Everybody's so afraid of me they shiver when they see me. They put on an extra coat."

Patrick also admitted extorting money from some well-known businesses and people, including insurance executive Allan Dorfman, who was killed back in 1983. He said that his former partner in crime, the late Dave Yaras extorted $300,000 from Dorfman and that he and Yaras split $75,000 and gave the rest to syndicate bosses. In a gruff voice Patrick also explained on how he even leaned on his own relatives by threatening his brother Mike`s son-in-law to coerce Mike to pay off a $250,000 debt.

And in the late 1980s, he also extorted $187,000 from his common-law wife`s nephew. He just added ``It was my own money``. Also one of the lawyers asked Patrick "Why are you talking in a low, conspiratorial tone?" "I got a bad throat," Patrick replied. "If I had a Scotch I'd be better off." This caused laughter in the room and also caused the judge to again warn Patrick to “stop the running commentary, this is a court room, not a night club.”

He also showed a bit of self-deprecating humor when he described how a lifelong friend scammed him by getting him to put up $165,000 to finance a non-existent bookmaking operation. The friend disappeared, and Patrick had another man he suspected of being involved in the scam severely beaten.

Patrick said he got the idea to extort money from the owner of Father & Son Pizza after the owner`s son stopped in a pizza-delivery vehicle and helped push Patrick`s car. ``I wanted to give him a few dollars, but he wouldn`t take it,`` Patrick said. ``But you decided to take some money from him?`` asked the prosecutor. Patrick replied ``That`s what happened``.

In the end Patrick also added that Sam Carlisi and John DiFronzo, muscled him out of his "street taxes". Now Gus Alex’ lawyers saw a chance to make it clear that Patrick received orders from DiFrozno and Cralisi, not Alex. But Patrick defended himself by saying "Come on, come on, you're getting out of the tune there," "Now you're trying to tell me I didn't give Alex any of the profits from extortions. That's out, that's out."

In the end, the facts and evidences were too overwhelming so the defendants were found guilty. Alex, Gio, and Rainone received (Gio received additional years because he was already in prison) prison sentences of 188, 137, and 210 months, respectively. Alex was also fined $ 250,000, and both he and Rainone were subjected to heavy forfeitures.

For Alex, 76 years old at the time, the prison term was a death sentence. The judge, James Alesia, who in turn was the nephew of bootlegger Roger Touhy who was killed by the Outfit in the past, ordered Alex to pay the cost of prison, about $1,400 a month. To make sure he paid, the government froze almost $1 million in cash and securities as well as his two condominiums, on Lake Shore Drive and in Florida.

Old man Alex pulled a folded handkerchief from his pocket, pushed his reading glasses out of the way and wiped the tears that rolled down from his eyes. He was then escorted in a wheelchair out of the court room surrounded by a dozen US Marshals. Patrick was sent to 6-year prison term but because of his testimony it was reduced to 2 years.

But there was a problem for Lenny Patrick. He admitted, without immunity from prosecution, ordering or personally carrying out six murders in the 1940s and early 1950s. Murder cases carry no statute of limitations. Patrick`s confession caught Cook County States Attorney Jack O`Malley’s office off guard, angering county prosecutors because U.S. Attorney Fred Foreman`s office had not forewarned them.

So that meant Patrick could be charged with decades-old murders by state officials despite his extensive cooperation with federal authorities in the prosecution of top mob figures. So Foreman personally begged O’Malley to delay a decision on Patrick until after Sam Carlisi and John DiFronzo, were tried on separate charges in San Diego and Chicago. Carlisi and DiFronzo were scheduled to go on trial on January, 1993 in San Diego on charges of conspiring to gain control of an Indian reservation`s gambling casino.

Also “someone” destroyed some of the records thus making it more difficult for Patrick to be charged with the six murders. Later O’Malley approved for Patrick to testify in the Carlisi trial.

On February 17, 1993, 80 year old Lenny Patrick testified for the government in United States v. Carlisi trial in San Diego. But even as an old man, Patrick was still a liar to the core. Patrick agreed to fully cooperate with the government in any investigation in which he is called upon to cooperate.

He also agreed to provide complete and truthful testimony before the federal grand jury and United States District Court proceeding. But Patrick breached this part of the plea agreement by testifying falsely in the Carlisi case. The government, therefore, revoked his plea agreement and reinstated the indictment against him.

In reality Patrick perjured himself while testifying against Carlisi, which led to Carlisi's acquittal in this trial. Patrick claimed that he acted in self-defense in each of the 6 murders. Patrick, originally sentenced to 6 years in prison for extortion, was given an additional 3 years as punishment for the perjury. The judge also gave Patrick additional 1 year onto his sentence. Patrick called the additional year a “death sentence.” Patrick pleaded guilty again and agreed to continue his cooperation.

But the damage was already done. Patrick's perjury meant Alex's lawyers had a new issue for their appeal and gave Carlisi's attorney a lot more fodder to cross-examine him in the Chicago trial.

In this case Patrick swore to tell the truth and repeatedly acknowledged the district judge's admonishments that he was under oath. Patrick was also aware of the consequences of perjury. With the previous experience, Patrick certainly knew that if he lied in this case, his sentence could be jacked up again and he would likely die behind bars.

So on December 16, 1993, Chicago’s boss Sam Carlisi and six other crew members were convicted on racketeering charges. Lenny Patrick’s, now truthful, testimony sealed their fate on the Daddino murder conspiracy, the juice-loan operation and ordering the intimidation of the Oak Park theater owner for refusing to negotiate with the projectionists union.

Carlisi remained in custody as a flight risk until 1996 when he was convicted of mob racketeering, loansharking, and arson in connection with an illegal gambling business in the Chicago area and the West suburbs and was sentenced to 13 years in prison. When the prosecutor accused Carlisi for being the head of the Chicago mob, Sam rose to his feet and shouted "That's a lie!", "I've sat here, and I can't listen no more! That's a damn lie!"

Convicted with Carlisi were his underboss James Marcello, Anthony Zizzo, Anthony Chiaramonti, and Gill Valerio. In the end, all of it had been for nothing. All of the problems began with the plot to kill Anthony Daddino because of the suspicion that he will cooperate. The bosses underestimated Daddino because he remained loyal and went to prison.

On January 2, 1997, Carlisi died with fluid in his lungs as he was being dragged out by prison guards in a prison unit to a waiting golf cart. On July 24, 1998 Gus Alex died of a heart attack while confined to a federal medical center in Lexington, Kentucky at age 82.

By now 83 year old Lenny Patrick was released from federal incarceration and eventually disappeared into the Federal Witness Protection Program. There’s not much info about his remaining years only that he reportedly suffered from Alzheimer’s disease in the last decade of his life. On March 1, 2006 Leonard “Lenny” aka “Blinkey” Patrick died of natural causes, apparently in the Chicago area, at the age of 92.
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Great read. Gill Valerio is Carlisi's nephew and used to have a website all about Mario Rainone and this entire case - wonder if it can still be found somewhere. Also I've heard from various sources through the years including Joe Fosco that James LaValley was murdered in witness protection. Not sure if anyone will ever be able to confirm that assuming he changed his name.
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SolarSolano wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:26 am Great read. Gill Valerio is Carlisi's nephew and used to have a website all about Mario Rainone and this entire case - wonder if it can still be found somewhere. Also I've heard from various sources through the years including Joe Fosco that James LaValley was murdered in witness protection. Not sure if anyone will ever be able to confirm that assuming he changed his name.
Thanks bud and yeah, I also remember somebody saying something similar back in the days regarding LaValley and I wonder if thats true?!
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Villain wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:57 am Most of us read or heard about Carlisi's stand towards possible informants like in Jeeps Daddino's case, and here's also the same case but from Alex's point of view...this is a small piece from my old article on Alex...

The biggest problem for Alex started on September 29, 1989, when two Grand Avenue crew members Anthony Daddino and Frank Schweihs were found guilty and convicted on many charges. One thing was that Schweihs was a killer and a stand up guy, so the Outfit wasn’t afraid of him, but Daddino was a different situation and so the bosses had other plans for him. They paid Daddino’s bond and he was released, but there was another problem.

Through his contacts, Gus Alex received information that an extortion case was under way and that Mario Rainone was the “main star”. Alex feared that Rainone knew and might talk about the fact that Alex took a cut from every extortion that Rainone previously committed, so the old man ordered the other old man Lenny Patrick to take care of the job. So Patrick took the problem to James Marcello who in turn orchestrated an old Outfit “trick” when one man was ordered to kill another and then both were slain at the same time by another hit team.

But during the hit, Rainone, the second target, who came to kill Daddino, suddenly spotted the other hit team and fled the scene in panic. This was a disaster. So one thing led to another and Rainone, fearing for his life, decided to call the FBI and told them that he was ready to cooperate. Rainone had cooperated with the government briefly by joining the witness protection program because he feared a hit had been put out on him. But when the Outfit got wind of the situation, they bombed and blew to bits the front porch of his mother’s home. The bomb was placed by Nick Calabrese on the orders of Jimmy Marcello. Rainone got the message and eventually stopped cooperating and pleaded guilty to extortion charges and was sentenced to 17½ years in prison.

So now everything seemed to be back in normal and Alex felt safe again and in the end Daddino never spoke about anything to anyone, or in other words he was a stand up guy at the time, meaning this was a big misunderstanding. Besides that, huge paranoia still clouded the thoughts of old man Alex and made him do stupid actions which later will cost him highly.

One day Lenny Patrick called Alex and arranged a meeting. Alex told Patrick to meet him on the upper floor in a hallway at the Northwestern Hospital on Chicago’s Near North Side. It was just like in the Sopranos series. Patrick allegedly had an issue with some union official and needed Alex’s advice on the payments and extortion methods and on top of that, they also discussed the whole set up in the Daddino conspiracy.
This is probably one of my favorite excerpts from the whole thread. I would like to read more on how they evaluated who is weak, possibly inform not inform, who knows what about whom and how much...its like business 101 for the mob
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Tonyd621 wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:59 am This is probably one of my favorite excerpts from the whole thread. I would like to read more on how they evaluated who is weak, possibly inform not inform, who knows what about whom and how much...its like business 101 for the mob
I dont remember clearly but I think it was Giancana who said something similar like "we are right 7 or 8 times out of 10", meaning they were right 7 times out of ten if someone was an informant. For example, during the 60s they were wrong about John D'Arco, or regarding Action Jackson. Even Jimmy Torello said it was quite suspicious for him that after all that pain and torture, Jackson never admitted that he was an informer, meaning Torello probably suspected that Jackson wasnt but he had to obey orders. I think t was a wiretapped convo in which Torello actually asked Buccieri the same thing but the old man ignored it.

Same shit happened with Daddino, meaning they trusted the German but didnt want to take any chances with Jeeps and thats how they made a mistake, meaning they shouldve immediately ordered the murders of everyone (Daddino, Rainone, Edwards, LaValley) instead of only scaring some of the guys, and thats why the feds were able to trap Patrick with Rainone's help.
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If I recall correctly, Lenny Patrick held back on admitting the James Ragen murder, but later did admit to it.
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He said it was "self defense" (lol) and almost caused a mistrial.
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I always wonder whether Mike Posner - who I believe is still in the Outfit - got his start under Lenny Patrick. I believe his father Bernard "Pee Pee" Posner was in Patrick's crew and grew up with him and Yaras in Lawndale. Mike Posner was/is with Cicero - I just wonder if he avoided working under Lenny.
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Lol old Patrick played everyone

The defence asked him on purpose if he killed anyone else besides Krotish, Glick, Murphy, Zatz and Glickman since they knew about his involvment in the Ragen shooting and also in several others like his possible involvment in the murders of Ben Zuckerman and later of Norton Polsky.

For example, on January 14, 1944 Patrick, Block and Yaras visited Zuckerman in his office at the beer company at 4:30 pm. An hour later they left his office and went into their car and waited until Zuckerman got out.

At 6:00 pm Zuckerman left his office and went home at 4042 Wilcox Street. He arrived in front of his house at 6:30 pm and was about to enter his home when a gunman jumped out from a car parked nearby, ran towards him and fired one shot. Zuckerman fell to the ground and the hitman fired two more shots into his head. The killer ran back to his car, which contained two other men and sped away.
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SolarSolano wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:15 pm I always wonder whether Mike Posner - who I believe is still in the Outfit - got his start under Lenny Patrick. I believe his father Bernard "Pee Pee" Posner was in Patrick's crew and grew up with him and Yaras in Lawndale. Mike Posner was/is with Cicero - I just wonder if he avoided working under Lenny.
Some sources say that Patrick's and Yaras' real "Godfather" from the Lawndale area and the one who brought them in the mix was one of Guzik's lieutenants Joseph Epstein aka the guy who was pimping Virgina Hill.

Both Yaras and Patrick were quite ruthless and were always in some conflict with some other Outfit group. For example, once they invaded Alderisios territory and there was a sit down arranged by Giancana, between Alderisio and Epstein. The deal was for Yaras and Patrick to continue to operate but to give some percentage to Alderisio. They also once even invaded Buccieris territory lol so maybe thats why Posner avoided them...
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Some interesting info regarding the Ragen situation....

In 1946, James Ragen tried to make a deal through U.S. Attorney Tom Clark to provide information to the FBI on the bookmaking industry in return for protection, but the shady director of the FBI J. Edgar Hoover turned down the offer. Ragen also told columnist Drew Pearson about the threats on his life made by Tony Accardo, Murray Humphries and Jake Guzik. He said that they warned him "either to turn over his racing wire service or get hit in the head."

Later Police Commissioner John Prendergast has assigned Thomas Conelly and William Drury to find the top guys like Accardo, Humphries and Guzik. Accardo and Humphries skipped town but they managed to find Guzik and took him to Scotland Yard and started questioning him about the threats made on Ragen.

The cops asked Guzik to take a lie detector and he replied “Captain, what’s the use of kidding ourselves?! If I took a lie test, 30 of the biggest men in Chicago would be diving out of high story windows and I’d have to hit myself in the head”. Minutes later he faked a heart attack and one of the cops handed him a glass of water and cracked a joke about putting some truth serum in it. Guzik recovered quickly and refused the glass of water.

Few hours later an order came down from the top for Guzik to be released. While leaving, Guzik said to one of the cops that questioned him “Im going to get you fired”. After that both Conelly and Drury went to the state attorney’s office to ask why they released Guzik. The states attorney told Conelly “You better watch your step captain. Because if I fire you, you’ll never get back".
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Back in the days was quite different, meaning the Chicago "family" gave a lot to these non-Italians if they were 100% loyal to them. By the late 1940's Patrick and Yaras eliminated several big time Jewish gamblers and racketeers from the Lawndale area and they literally gave the whole area to the Outfit as sign of loyalty. And in return, they received this...this is from 1948 until 1952 mainly about the Lawndale area, and this was before Patrick transferred to Rogers Park on the North Side...

New Lawndale Restaurant located at 3714 Roosevelt Rd (also a gambling establishment)

The Arcade Restaurant located at Kedzie and Roosevelt Roads (also a gambling establishment)

Tavern located at 3166 Ogden Avenue (also a gambling establishment)

Gambling house located at 3613 West Roosevelt Road

The Streamliner Tavern at 1314 North Clark St

Cigar stand in the State of Illinois office building at 160 W. La Salle Street (also a gambling establishment)

Tavern at 3241 W. 16th Street

Tavern at 3814 Madison Street

The Paradise Club at 201 N. Pulaski Road

Part owners of the Reliable Products Company at 4046 Roosevelt Road
Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God - Corinthians 6:9-10
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