John & Gene Show / "2 Mob Bosses Sitdown" -- Paul Tanso

[Amershire_Ed]

Also Artilotta claimed he had approx. 12 made guys under him, any idea who they are? Guys in CT?

We'd have to see a list of crew members in the early-mid 2000s.

One thing to remember is, according to the indictment, Arilotta never technically rose above the rank of soldier. Tranghese was technically the captain after Bruno but, according to prosecutors, Nigro marginalized these guys which effectively made Arilotta the "de facto leader" in Springfield before they were all taken down.

Yeah the prosecutors said Arilotta got tight with Nigro and that Tranghese was just a figure head of sorts. Arilotta said everyone knew he was really in charge. It’s funny though—his relationship with Nigro gave him power, but he fully admits now that Nigro was a shitty boss. Nigro’s relationship with John Bologna was stupid and cost them.

[Mustangsally]

I'm about 2/3 the way through.

"First sit down with 2 mob bosses" - apparently they couldn't make it.

Alite referred to all the "bodies, beatings, robberies, stabbings, etc" between them but its still a gross exaggeration.

This whole idea of a "Luisi family" is ludicrous. To say nothing of the idea the Philly guys in Boston are stronger than the Patriarcas. What Philly guys?

This shit is only going to get worse going forward. More and more "involved" affiliates are taking to the internet to share their stories and they inflate the fuck out of their role in things. Current researchers are going to have their hands full sorting through it. We have Franzese, Artilotta and Luisi calling themselves bosses, Alite was a one-man murder Inc, Gene says fuck the buttons, Culotta was secretly made by Spilotro etc.

I would imagine they were most honest during their FBI debriefing session and that should be used as a comparison for what they say 10 years after on the internet. Natale can go online and talk about Bruno/Gambino's joint making of him and suffer no consequences, had he tried that shit with the FBI instead of admitting that he got out of prison and Merlino made him then his deal would have been impacted.

Gravano and DiLeonardo haven't changed their stories. Caramandi neither but he's been under the radar since the 2000's.

None of these people can touch Gianni Russo when it comes to lies. He fucked marilyn's monroe at 16. He had dinner with pablo Escobar. Killed his first guy at age 12 or something like that. He is far and away the biggest bullshitter out there. The claims he makes are comical. I guess if you are gonna make shit up go big

[chin_gigante]

Still don't know why Tanso was there, did he even do anything besides introduce himself and nod throughout the episode? I find it hard to believe he was made. Despite Phila's characterization as the most dysfunctional mob in America they were never really "loose" with the membership. Merlino/Natale were more conservative about it then Scarfo was it seems. So for them to make 6-8 members in NE when they barely did it in Phila/SJ? It's possible but it raises flags.

Tanso spoke a bit about how he got his murder conviction overturned and a little bit about the negative impact of prison/ LCN on his life, but apart from that yeah it seemed just like he was there as a hanger-on with Luisi.

For what it's worth as well, George Anastasia has also talked before about 6 or 7 NE guys getting straightened out, without naming them, into the Philly family.

[Rocco]

Arliotta has made clear in both his interviews with Gene and John that was an “area boss” and not boss of a family or anything. He doesn’t seem to exaggerate as much as these other guys. But I do find it hysterical from watching both of Arilotta’s interviews with these guys that he has no sort of remorse for being a criminal, he’s just remorseful he got mixed up with wise guys. I think he truly believes he’d have never got jammed up for any of his criminal activities if he never associated with mob guys.

I got that from Arliotta as well. I think he is the most truthful as well. Alite murdered and baseball batted every walking male in the North East lol Its too much. How do they not see that.

[Angelo Santino]

Still don't know why Tanso was there, did he even do anything besides introduce himself and nod throughout the episode? I find it hard to believe he was made. Despite Phila's characterization as the most dysfunctional mob in America they were never really "loose" with the membership. Merlino/Natale were more conservative about it then Scarfo was it seems. So for them to make 6-8 members in NE when they barely did it in Phila/SJ? It's possible but it raises flags.

Tanso spoke a bit about how he got his murder conviction overturned and a little bit about the negative impact of prison/ LCN on his life, but apart from that yeah it seemed just like he was there as a hanger-on with Luisi.

For what it's worth as well, George Anastasia has also talked before about 6 or 7 NE guys getting straightened out, without naming them, into the Philly family.

Yes and I got nothing to counter. There's sources better placed than myself which state 6-7 guys of NE were made in Phila. However if it comes out from some informant in several years that Luisi was the only made member up there with a group of guys (officially- associates) around him I'd slap my knee and say "That's what I've been telling you." But I haven't because I'm not harping on it, but I do strongly suspect that was the case. But for now, let's go with the sources who claim- 6-7 made guys. For all my shit about protocol and norms and whatever, there's always been deviations and this may be one of them and if so, I accept that. Their organization.

If we, as researchers, wish to get to the bottom of this we'd have to find out the sources behind this claim. Did a member in Phila. state this on wiretap? Did Natale state "Seven Boston boys were made into our family" or was it: "Philly's crew in Boston, had 6-7 guys around them." So much is lost in misunderstanding what is being spoken. Conclusions are easily jumped to. Do we have a source beyond Luisi himself describing him as Caporegime (sorry Gene, it's used among the members)? Anastasia did but does he state where he got that source from?

There is a difference between Caporegime and someone being placed in charge of an area. To outsiders like us it's hard to distinguish. But to Joe Zerilli or even fucking Ralph Natale he'd know who his capos were and were not. If only Vlad would have asked Ralph who his capos were. But then Ralph would named off 20 and we'd be back to square one. After a life of lies and deceit can we expect anything less?

But to their credit, they're in it to live the life and/or make money, not to come back and tell us fourm geeks what's what. I'm sure in retrospect every informant likely wished they'd asked this or that. But when you're in the thick of it, you call up Joe Gambino you're going to discuss business matters, not "Hey Joe, so this this that about your family, what do you think of that? Also how many soldiers do you have your crew?" That would be fucking awkward. So much of what these guys recall is from memory. Good on them for sharing what they have. But to us outsiders, they can be wrong/lying and kudos to John/Gene for documenting that on a podcast.

[Pogo The Clown]

Do we have a source beyond Luisi himself describing him as Caporegime (sorry Gene, it's used among the members)? Anastasia did but does he state where he got that source from?

Luisi was indicted as a Capo in 1999. Also according to Previte, Merlino told him in late 1998 that he was planning to promote Luisi to Capo in Boston.


Pogo

[Pmac2]

Al bruno was on tape I forgot must have been when he became capo in 2002. He was only capo for less then 1 year when he got killed he said if I remember correct he there was 8 made guys in his springfield crew. This might have came out when he told the fbi agent he was in jail when fusco was inducted by baba scibelli. Delveo and bruno both dead by the time arilotta becomes made so it would be like 6 made guys. 3 of them were older to like 70tys. But they had alot of associates all over western mass

[Wiseguy]

Also Artilotta claimed he had approx. 12 made guys under him, any idea who they are? Guys in CT?

We'd have to see a list of crew members in the early-mid 2000s.

One thing to remember is, according to the indictment, Arilotta never technically rose above the rank of soldier. Tranghese was technically the captain after Bruno but, according to prosecutors, Nigro marginalized these guys which effectively made Arilotta the "de facto leader" in Springfield before they were all taken down.

Yeah the prosecutors said Arilotta got tight with Nigro and that Tranghese was just a figure head of sorts. Arilotta said everyone knew he was really in charge. It’s funny though—his relationship with Nigro gave him power, but he fully admits now that Nigro was a shitty boss. Nigro’s relationship with John Bologna was stupid and cost them.

I've wondered if, had he not gotten life in prison, Nigro would have been in real trouble with the family in how he handled things.

[chin_gigante]

If we, as researchers, wish to get to the bottom of this we'd have to find out the sources behind this claim. Did a member in Phila. state this on wiretap? Did Natale state "Seven Boston boys were made into our family" or was it: "Philly's crew in Boston, had 6-7 guys around them." So much is lost in misunderstanding what is being spoken. Conclusions are easily jumped to. Do we have a source beyond Luisi himself describing him as Caporegime (sorry Gene, it's used among the members)? Anastasia did but does he state where he got that source from?

Looking at the sources for Luisi being a captain this is what I have:

Philadelphia Daily News
08 July 1999
Kitty Caparella and Joseph R Daughen
'Can the Mob Survive?'

Last Oct. 6, according to an affidavit by FBI Agent Ralph J. Saturno, Merlino told the "cooperating witness" that he was "taking over" the local mob. Natale had been returned to prison in June 1998 on a parole violation.

Three days later, what investigators say was an unprecedented event occurred when Merlino let it be known that he was promoting a Boston man to the position of capo.

Saturno said the Boston man, Robert Luisi Jr., would have "the responsibility of supervising criminal activity in Boston" for the Philadelphia family.

"That's the craziest thing I ever heard of," said one longtime organized crime investigator. "What is Joey Merlino doing making members from Boston?"

Philadelphia Inquirer
29 June 1999
George Anastasia and Joseph Slobodzian
'Merlino Arrested On Drug Charges'

Arrested in the Boston area and charged with Merlino were Robert Luisi Jr., 38, Shawn Vetere, 31, Bobby Carrazzo Jr., 39, and Thomas Wilson, 48. Luisi is the son of a notorious Boston mob associate, Robert Luisi Sr., who was gunned down with four other men, including another son, as they sat in the 99 Restaurant & Pub in the Charlestown section of Boston in 1995.

Robert Luisi Jr., according to the charges disclosed yesterday, was named a capo by Merlino this year.

United States Court of Appeals, First Circuit
10 April 2007
UNITED STATES V. LUISI
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-1st-circ ... footnote_8

Luisi was the sole witness to testify for the defense. He testified to several additional pertinent points. He admitted that he had been a captain in the LCN since the fall of 1998, and he agreed that the LCN was properly described as “the Mafia” and as “the mob.”
As a captain, one of his jobs had been to make “tribute” payments to Merlino, and these payments had come out of Luisi's earnings from the criminal enterprises conducted by his “crew” in Boston. Luisi explained that the LCN was extremely hierarchical, and he stated that when the head of the LCN ordered him to do the cocaine transaction, he felt that he had no alternative other than to fulfill the order.

On the Philadelphia family inducting more than one Boston guy:

Philadelphia Daily News
07 June 2001
Kitty Caparella
'Lifetime Gangster Tells His Tale As Liaison to Philly Mob'

After approving Natale as boss, the Genovese family wanted to OK Natale's major decisions, Caprio said. So Natale asked Caprio to be his liaison.

After Natale was jailed on a parole violation in 1998, Caprio said, he continued his same role for Merlino.

Merlino asked him to get approval from the Genovese family to initiate two Boston mobsters into the Philadelphia LCN, he said.

"Tell Merlino not to make them," Caprio testified he was told. Merlino inducted them anyway.

Philadelphia Daily News
29 June 1999
Kitty Caparella and Jim Smith
'Big Blow For Big Joey'

According to the criminal complaints, Natale directed five co-conspirators, including his son-in-law, in manufacturing and selling seven pounds of methamphetamine between October 1995 through March 1998.

Six months later, Merlino was allegedly directing four Boston-area men, two of whom he inducted into the Philadelphia mob, in obtaining and selling 11 pounds of cocaine. The Merlino dope plot was unfolding as recently as 11 days ago, according to one of the complaints.

Merlino's alleged criminal activity in the Boston area without reprisal from New England's Raymond Patriarca crime family is unheard of under traditional Mafia rules.

According to the complaints, Merlino promoted Robert Luisi Jr. to be a Philly capo to supervise Boston operations. He also inducted Bostonian Shawn Vetere into the Philly mob without the approval of other crime families - a testament to the disintegration of mob past practices.

While the above only makes specific reference to Luisi and Vetere getting straightened out, it should be noted they were the only made guys involved in that drug case.



On Robert Gentile's membership:

Hartford Courant
28 March 2012
Edmund H Mahoney
'Feds Believe Mobster, 75, Involved in Gardner Art Heist'
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.couran ... y,amp.html

[Assistant US Attorney John] Durham said Gentile was associated with a crew active in Boston and led by Capo Robert Luisi, but associated with Philadelphia's mafia family. It was Luisi who "made" Gentile by inducting him into the Philadelphia family, Durham said in court Tuesday.

When Luisi was arrested and confronted with a long prison sentence for selling cocaine about a decade ago, he implicated Gentile and other alleged members of his crew in a long list of criminal activity, Durham said.

[AM434]

If we, as researchers, wish to get to the bottom of this we'd have to find out the sources behind this claim. Did a member in Phila. state this on wiretap? Did Natale state "Seven Boston boys were made into our family" or was it: "Philly's crew in Boston, had 6-7 guys around them." So much is lost in misunderstanding what is being spoken. Conclusions are easily jumped to. Do we have a source beyond Luisi himself describing him as Caporegime (sorry Gene, it's used among the members)? Anastasia did but does he state where he got that source from?

Looking at the sources for Luisi being a captain this is what I have:

Philadelphia Daily News
08 July 1999
Kitty Caparella and Joseph R Daughen
'Can the Mob Survive?'

Last Oct. 6, according to an affidavit by FBI Agent Ralph J. Saturno, Merlino told the "cooperating witness" that he was "taking over" the local mob. Natale had been returned to prison in June 1998 on a parole violation.

Three days later, what investigators say was an unprecedented event occurred when Merlino let it be known that he was promoting a Boston man to the position of capo.

Saturno said the Boston man, Robert Luisi Jr., would have "the responsibility of supervising criminal activity in Boston" for the Philadelphia family.

"That's the craziest thing I ever heard of," said one longtime organized crime investigator. "What is Joey Merlino doing making members from Boston?"

Philadelphia Inquirer
29 June 1999
George Anastasia and Joseph Slobodzian
'Merlino Arrested On Drug Charges'

Arrested in the Boston area and charged with Merlino were Robert Luisi Jr., 38, Shawn Vetere, 31, Bobby Carrazzo Jr., 39, and Thomas Wilson, 48. Luisi is the son of a notorious Boston mob associate, Robert Luisi Sr., who was gunned down with four other men, including another son, as they sat in the 99 Restaurant & Pub in the Charlestown section of Boston in 1995.

Robert Luisi Jr., according to the charges disclosed yesterday, was named a capo by Merlino this year.

United States Court of Appeals, First Circuit
10 April 2007
UNITED STATES V. LUISI
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-1st-circ ... footnote_8

Luisi was the sole witness to testify for the defense. He testified to several additional pertinent points. He admitted that he had been a captain in the LCN since the fall of 1998, and he agreed that the LCN was properly described as “the Mafia” and as “the mob.”
As a captain, one of his jobs had been to make “tribute” payments to Merlino, and these payments had come out of Luisi's earnings from the criminal enterprises conducted by his “crew” in Boston. Luisi explained that the LCN was extremely hierarchical, and he stated that when the head of the LCN ordered him to do the cocaine transaction, he felt that he had no alternative other than to fulfill the order.

On the Philadelphia family inducting more than one Boston guy:

Philadelphia Daily News
07 June 2001
Kitty Caparella
'Lifetime Gangster Tells His Tale As Liaison to Philly Mob'

After approving Natale as boss, the Genovese family wanted to OK Natale's major decisions, Caprio said. So Natale asked Caprio to be his liaison.

After Natale was jailed on a parole violation in 1998, Caprio said, he continued his same role for Merlino.

Merlino asked him to get approval from the Genovese family to initiate two Boston mobsters into the Philadelphia LCN, he said.

"Tell Merlino not to make them," Caprio testified he was told. Merlino inducted them anyway.

Philadelphia Daily News
29 June 1999
Kitty Caparella and Jim Smith
'Big Blow For Big Joey'

According to the criminal complaints, Natale directed five co-conspirators, including his son-in-law, in manufacturing and selling seven pounds of methamphetamine between October 1995 through March 1998.

Six months later, Merlino was allegedly directing four Boston-area men, two of whom he inducted into the Philadelphia mob, in obtaining and selling 11 pounds of cocaine. The Merlino dope plot was unfolding as recently as 11 days ago, according to one of the complaints.

Merlino's alleged criminal activity in the Boston area without reprisal from New England's Raymond Patriarca crime family is unheard of under traditional Mafia rules.

According to the complaints, Merlino promoted Robert Luisi Jr. to be a Philly capo to supervise Boston operations. He also inducted Bostonian Shawn Vetere into the Philly mob without the approval of other crime families - a testament to the disintegration of mob past practices.

While the above only makes specific reference to Luisi and Vetere getting straightened out, it should be noted they were the only made guys involved in that drug case.



On Robert Gentile's membership:

Hartford Courant
28 March 2012
Edmund H Mahoney
'Feds Believe Mobster, 75, Involved in Gardner Art Heist'
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.couran ... y,amp.html

[Assistant US Attorney John] Durham said Gentile was associated with a crew active in Boston and led by Capo Robert Luisi, but associated with Philadelphia's mafia family. It was Luisi who "made" Gentile by inducting him into the Philadelphia family, Durham said in court Tuesday.

When Luisi was arrested and confronted with a long prison sentence for selling cocaine about a decade ago, he implicated Gentile and other alleged members of his crew in a long list of criminal activity, Durham said.

Great break down, thanks for this. So Luisi capo over Gentile, and Vetere. I assume Tanso also made under Luisi. So I wonder who the other 3-4 made Boston guys under him were.

[Amershire_Ed]

Arliotta has made clear in both his interviews with Gene and John that was an “area boss” and not boss of a family or anything. He doesn’t seem to exaggerate as much as these other guys. But I do find it hysterical from watching both of Arilotta’s interviews with these guys that he has no sort of remorse for being a criminal, he’s just remorseful he got mixed up with wise guys. I think he truly believes he’d have never got jammed up for any of his criminal activities if he never associated with mob guys.

I got that from Arliotta as well. I think he is the most truthful as well. Alite murdered and baseball batted every walking male in the North East lol Its too much. How do they not see that.

The only thing I’ll say in Alite’s defense is like half the guests they’ve had on their show have talked about him like he was the fucking Incredible Hulk. And while Gene’s obsession with Franzese is getting annoying, the kid Hootie said Gene was being recruited by crews with the Genovese and Gambino Family before he got with Ronnie G. These guys were both in the life and involved with top guys, just feels like sometimes they are putting a little too much mustard on their hot dog.

[Uncle Pete]

Arliotta has made clear in both his interviews with Gene and John that was an “area boss” and not boss of a family or anything. He doesn’t seem to exaggerate as much as these other guys. But I do find it hysterical from watching both of Arilotta’s interviews with these guys that he has no sort of remorse for being a criminal, he’s just remorseful he got mixed up with wise guys. I think he truly believes he’d have never got jammed up for any of his criminal activities if he never associated with mob guys.

I got that from Arliotta as well. I think he is the most truthful as well. Alite murdered and baseball batted every walking male in the North East lol Its too much. How do they not see that.

The only thing I’ll say in Alite’s defense is like half the guests they’ve had on their show have talked about him like he was the fucking Incredible Hulk. And while Gene’s obsession with Franzese is getting annoying, the kid Hootie said Gene was being recruited by crews with the Genovese and Gambino Family before he got with Ronnie G. These guys were both in the life and involved with top guys, just feels like sometimes they are putting a little too much mustard on their hot dog.

Maybe I’m wrong but the guys that go out of their way to say what a bad guy Alite was aren’t really know tough guys from what I’ve seen.

Watch the Andrew DiDonato interview, he is respectful but doesn’t pay Alite any special deference at all. Alite makes it a point to say Andrew and his friend Mikey Y were real tough guys. Alite was capable and DiDonato was capable, that’s about as far as it goes when both guys are certified shooters.

[TallGuy19]

Do we know who the twelve soldiers Arilotta had in his crew were? I never realized that crew was so big. It seems strange that they went from twelve made members, with hundreds of associates, to only one or two made members in such a short time.

[Stroccos]

Not a bad episode, I miss the Albanian rap in the beginning though. Anyways, Paul Tanso is sitting next to Bobby Luisi and identifies himself as "one of the last loyal soldiers of the Luisi family." Don't we have Paul Tanso listed as made? I find that questionable if he's sitting next to his former captain who flipped.

Or is this already cleared up?

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25:00 Luisi: "The agreement I had with Joey was that I was going to be with Philly for two years, and then I was gonna break off and have my own family. That's what we intended to do."

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29:00 Alite: "You add up all of our bodies and there's hundreds and hundreds between us."

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I'm 31 mins in and that's a wrap for me. I guess I need to be in the right mindset. Salut.

tanso was made ,

Well he just appeared on a livestream with four informants. That's.. interesting.

yeah i guess he doesnt care , if he left the mob beyond and luisis didnt hurt him when he flipped ,

wasnt Lusisi basically forced to work with previte by Merlino ? if previte doesnt go to boston he made of had a little run , certaintely longer then he did , would it of amounted to anything who knows? but probably not
so if luisi only testified agaisnt merlino some might see that as tit for tat

[Angelo Santino]

If we, as researchers, wish to get to the bottom of this we'd have to find out the sources behind this claim. Did a member in Phila. state this on wiretap? Did Natale state "Seven Boston boys were made into our family" or was it: "Philly's crew in Boston, had 6-7 guys around them." So much is lost in misunderstanding what is being spoken. Conclusions are easily jumped to. Do we have a source beyond Luisi himself describing him as Caporegime (sorry Gene, it's used among the members)? Anastasia did but does he state where he got that source from?

Looking at the sources for Luisi being a captain this is what I have:

Philadelphia Daily News
08 July 1999
Kitty Caparella and Joseph R Daughen
'Can the Mob Survive?'

Last Oct. 6, according to an affidavit by FBI Agent Ralph J. Saturno, Merlino told the "cooperating witness" that he was "taking over" the local mob. Natale had been returned to prison in June 1998 on a parole violation.

Three days later, what investigators say was an unprecedented event occurred when Merlino let it be known that he was promoting a Boston man to the position of capo.

Saturno said the Boston man, Robert Luisi Jr., would have "the responsibility of supervising criminal activity in Boston" for the Philadelphia family.

"That's the craziest thing I ever heard of," said one longtime organized crime investigator. "What is Joey Merlino doing making members from Boston?"

Philadelphia Inquirer
29 June 1999
George Anastasia and Joseph Slobodzian
'Merlino Arrested On Drug Charges'

Arrested in the Boston area and charged with Merlino were Robert Luisi Jr., 38, Shawn Vetere, 31, Bobby Carrazzo Jr., 39, and Thomas Wilson, 48. Luisi is the son of a notorious Boston mob associate, Robert Luisi Sr., who was gunned down with four other men, including another son, as they sat in the 99 Restaurant & Pub in the Charlestown section of Boston in 1995.

Robert Luisi Jr., according to the charges disclosed yesterday, was named a capo by Merlino this year.

United States Court of Appeals, First Circuit
10 April 2007
UNITED STATES V. LUISI
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-1st-circ ... footnote_8

Luisi was the sole witness to testify for the defense. He testified to several additional pertinent points. He admitted that he had been a captain in the LCN since the fall of 1998, and he agreed that the LCN was properly described as “the Mafia” and as “the mob.”
As a captain, one of his jobs had been to make “tribute” payments to Merlino, and these payments had come out of Luisi's earnings from the criminal enterprises conducted by his “crew” in Boston. Luisi explained that the LCN was extremely hierarchical, and he stated that when the head of the LCN ordered him to do the cocaine transaction, he felt that he had no alternative other than to fulfill the order.

On the Philadelphia family inducting more than one Boston guy:

Philadelphia Daily News
07 June 2001
Kitty Caparella
'Lifetime Gangster Tells His Tale As Liaison to Philly Mob'

After approving Natale as boss, the Genovese family wanted to OK Natale's major decisions, Caprio said. So Natale asked Caprio to be his liaison.

After Natale was jailed on a parole violation in 1998, Caprio said, he continued his same role for Merlino.

Merlino asked him to get approval from the Genovese family to initiate two Boston mobsters into the Philadelphia LCN, he said.

"Tell Merlino not to make them," Caprio testified he was told. Merlino inducted them anyway.

Philadelphia Daily News
29 June 1999
Kitty Caparella and Jim Smith
'Big Blow For Big Joey'

According to the criminal complaints, Natale directed five co-conspirators, including his son-in-law, in manufacturing and selling seven pounds of methamphetamine between October 1995 through March 1998.

Six months later, Merlino was allegedly directing four Boston-area men, two of whom he inducted into the Philadelphia mob, in obtaining and selling 11 pounds of cocaine. The Merlino dope plot was unfolding as recently as 11 days ago, according to one of the complaints.

Merlino's alleged criminal activity in the Boston area without reprisal from New England's Raymond Patriarca crime family is unheard of under traditional Mafia rules.

According to the complaints, Merlino promoted Robert Luisi Jr. to be a Philly capo to supervise Boston operations. He also inducted Bostonian Shawn Vetere into the Philly mob without the approval of other crime families - a testament to the disintegration of mob past practices.

While the above only makes specific reference to Luisi and Vetere getting straightened out, it should be noted they were the only made guys involved in that drug case.



On Robert Gentile's membership:

Hartford Courant
28 March 2012
Edmund H Mahoney
'Feds Believe Mobster, 75, Involved in Gardner Art Heist'
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.couran ... y,amp.html

[Assistant US Attorney John] Durham said Gentile was associated with a crew active in Boston and led by Capo Robert Luisi, but associated with Philadelphia's mafia family. It was Luisi who "made" Gentile by inducting him into the Philadelphia family, Durham said in court Tuesday.

When Luisi was arrested and confronted with a long prison sentence for selling cocaine about a decade ago, he implicated Gentile and other alleged members of his crew in a long list of criminal activity, Durham said.

Chin, thank you for taking the time and posting excerpts. It's great what you do.

Looking at the above, I bolded the part where it says 2 members from Boston. That would be Gentile and Vetere. Do we have wiretaps or informants stating Philadelphia made 6-8 members or did that come from Anastasia stating it?