Kansas City Crime Family

[Tonyd621]

In a few years we will have informants saying that the Boss of Kansas is the Boss of Bosses who dominates the five families in the shadows.

Hahahaha only you would believe that... 3 crews is possible... but what your saying here is stupid beyond belief.

You got it wrong, I'm being ironic, I don't believe KC's family existed.

Pieno di merda

[Wiseguy]

Keep posting your stupid memes and GIFS like a kid. No one cares

Wait, you're the guy who thinks someone in a position to know about new making ceremonies in Kansas City has come on the internet to tell you all about it.

Who's the child here?

Why because its 2020 and not 1982 so its impossible to assume a crime family cant rebuild and get stronger or have more members? The lack of indictments is one of the most worn out, laziest arguments on here. Just bc no one got pinched does not mean people are not making moves... look at bellomo, mancuso, mannino? You think those guys stopped bc they havent been indicted? Cmon..

Yes, because it's 2020! Do you know anything about the present day mob? You're like some 15 year old who just watched Casino, read his first book on John Gotti, and found his way to this forum.

[Moscone65]

Keep posting your stupid memes and GIFS like a kid. No one cares

Wait, you're the guy who thinks someone in a position to know about new making ceremonies in Kansas City has come on the internet to tell you all about it.

Who's the child here?

Why because its 2020 and not 1982 so its impossible to assume a crime family cant rebuild and get stronger or have more members? The lack of indictments is one of the most worn out, laziest arguments on here. Just bc no one got pinched does not mean people are not making moves... look at bellomo, mancuso, mannino? You think those guys stopped bc they havent been indicted? Cmon..

Yes, because it's 2020! Do you know anything about the present day mob? You're like some 15 year old who just watched Casino, read his first book on John Gotti, and found his way to this forum.

Alright officer, give me my ticket then and I’ll be on my way. Sorry to break all these forum laws, I’ll never do it again.

[Wiseguy]

Alright officer, give me my ticket then and I’ll be on my way. Sorry to break all these forum laws, I’ll never do it again.

Or you could just use some common sense.

[Moscone65]

Alright officer, give me my ticket then and I’ll be on my way. Sorry to break all these forum laws, I’ll never do it again.

Or you could just use some common sense.

Mhm your absolutely right

[Tonyd621]

Keep posting your stupid memes and GIFS like a kid. No one cares

Wait, you're the guy who thinks someone in a position to know about new making ceremonies in Kansas City has come on the internet to tell you all about it.

Who's the child here?

Why because its 2020 and not 1982 so its impossible to assume a crime family cant rebuild and get stronger or have more members? The lack of indictments is one of the most worn out, laziest arguments on here. Just bc no one got pinched does not mean people are not making moves... look at bellomo, mancuso, mannino? You think those guys stopped bc they havent been indicted? Cmon..

Yes, because it's 2020! Do you know anything about the present day mob? You're like some 15 year old who just watched Casino, read his first book on John Gotti, and found his way to this forum.

Three made guys with a few guys underneath each of them, whats so hard to believe about that?
No, I dont know anything about the present day mob... do you? I know you believe whatever law enforcement says and if someone has not been arrested before then the mob must not exsist. Call me what you want, but your argument is as subjective as mine. I believe cleveland is as dead as a door nail and the same with some other cities so I just dont believe every mid western mob family is thriving. But to say you cant have three crews because lack of indictments is the most tired, apathetic thesis out there. I worked in government (military to be exact) and I hate to tell you but they dont know everything that everybody is doing all the time. People get away with shit just as often as they are caught. And sometimes its 10,15 years or more before somebody gets pinched.

[Frank]

The thing about these small families that the FBI says are done and there are small amount of members left, is the amount of time that has gone by, its been, in some cases decades that people have been saying still alive, quietly rebuilding etc, but where is the growth. At this rate a good portion of us posters could be dead 2 or 3 more decade for them to become viable again. It sounds to me that in this decades long growth of this families, they at best havnt grown to 25 percent of what theyused to be.

[Frank]

Like I said inthe Buffalo thread, it all boils down to your opinion on what constitutes a LCN Family. In some cases and I include Chicago that is listed as viable. They really must be recruiting some really super humen members that never get indicted.lol. Ive been waiting for years for one of these Sarno loyalist to get indicted in Chicago.

[Frank]

The problem on this board is unless there is an indictment of some kind nobody will believe any crime family is still active

Yes but like Im trying to say in the KC thread how many more decades are going to go by, if you insist they are rebuilding or have rebuilt somewhat for that to show up on the radar.The underboss said there was no more Family left over 30 years ago.Maybe he exxagerated a little .But it was a serious downword trend to say the least. Now 35 years later mind you 35 years to rebuild. Its maybe they made some guys still, they just havnt got caught. So instead of them having 3 guys left are you saying they have 10 to 20?Are you saying 3 old guys and a handfull of new guys? I try and give some of these Families the benifit of a dought, I believe that it could be possble for some of these Families to try to rebuild. Never say never. Possible for at least one. But come on 35 years its been and not on the radar. The Chicago - Cleveland example is how old?

[Frank]

Oops wrong thread but basically the same thing. Cleveland and KC are comparable. Cleveland is who Im reffering to35 years and its still just a guessing game. You would think in that time period they would have been at least upgraded alittle.

[Tonyd621]

Three made guys each having 3-4 guys underneath running schemes, scores, etc. Im not saying the guys underneath are all made guys with roots traced back etc etc. Im saying these associates could be non italian polish, irish, felons met in prison at a bar etc, loaning money at high interest, stolen property, drugs, gambling, laundering etc. Im not implying there is a hierachy of a boss, underboss, consig...but they can build something of a structured more modest, watered down generic version of what they saw growing up without interruption, absolutley I believe that

[Tonyd621]

Three made guys each having 3-4 guys underneath running schemes, scores, etc. Im not saying the guys underneath are all made guys with roots traced back etc etc. Im saying these associates could be non italian polish, irish, felons met in prison at a bar etc, loaning money at high interest, stolen property, drugs, gambling, laundering etc. Im not implying there is a hierachy of a boss, underboss, consig...but they can build something of a structured more modest, watered down generic version of what they saw growing up without interruption, absolutley I believe that

[Confederate]

Three made guys each having 3-4 guys underneath running schemes, scores, etc. Im not saying the guys underneath are all made guys with roots traced back etc etc. Im saying these associates could be non italian polish, irish, felons met in prison at a bar etc, loaning money at high interest, stolen property, drugs, gambling, laundering etc. Im not implying there is a hierachy of a boss, underboss, consig...but they can build something of a structured more modest, watered down generic version of what they saw growing up without interruption, absolutley I believe that

Yeah, that's "Possible". So what? 3 left over made guys having a few associates under them doing something independently are called "Remnants" from a defunct Family. That's what we have said now about 10 times. That aside, Cleveland will "never" be a functioning Family unless we can all climb into a time machine & go back to America the way it was 40 to 45 years ago.

[Tonyd621]

Three made guys each having 3-4 guys underneath running schemes, scores, etc. Im not saying the guys underneath are all made guys with roots traced back etc etc. Im saying these associates could be non italian polish, irish, felons met in prison at a bar etc, loaning money at high interest, stolen property, drugs, gambling, laundering etc. Im not implying there is a hierachy of a boss, underboss, consig...but they can build something of a structured more modest, watered down generic version of what they saw growing up without interruption, absolutley I believe that

Yeah, that's "Possible". So what? 3 left over made guys having a few associates under them doing something independently are called "Remnants" from a defunct Family. That's what we have said now about 10 times. That aside, Cleveland will "never" be a functioning Family unless we can all climb into a time machine & go back to America the way it was 40 to 45 years ago.

I never said cleveland was functioning. I believe clev is as dead as you say it is. But KC, the made guys all know each other, hang out at the same places. You can label it on how you want, well actually you will wait till the fbi labels it and you can call it whatever they say it is. Because your view is the Gs view. I have my own opinion. And the FBI acknowledged at least vince civella, ribaste, frank deluna, Cammissano, simone (two of them i believe-joe, and pete) all made guys. So there is 6 made guys right there.

[Tonyd621]

Three made guys each having 3-4 guys underneath running schemes, scores, etc. Im not saying the guys underneath are all made guys with roots traced back etc etc. Im saying these associates could be non italian polish, irish, felons met in prison at a bar etc, loaning money at high interest, stolen property, drugs, gambling, laundering etc. Im not implying there is a hierachy of a boss, underboss, consig...but they can build something of a structured more modest, watered down generic version of what they saw growing up without interruption, absolutley I believe that

Yeah, that's "Possible". So what? 3 left over made guys having a few associates under them doing something independently are called "Remnants" from a defunct Family. That's what we have said now about 10 times. That aside, Cleveland will "never" be a functioning Family unless we can all climb into a time machine & go back to America the way it was 40 to 45 years ago.

Im only stating things repeated by the fbi bc that is the only way you believe it. I believe theres more or at least closely aligned associates with them