Pogo The Clown wrote:Chris Christie wrote:Most groups were amicable with each other.
Yeah I remember that picture of Albert Anastasia lying all amicable on the barbershop floor.
In case no one got it that was Tony Soprano to Uncle Junior.
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Pogo The Clown wrote:Chris Christie wrote:Most groups were amicable with each other.
Yeah I remember that picture of Albert Anastasia lying all amicable on the barbershop floor.
You should check out Antonino Calderone's book. Has great info on Catania and surrounding areas. Nothing compares to western Sicily, but there is a significant presence out there.SonnyBlackstein wrote:Chris Christie: Great stuff, very interesting.
Appreciated.
Question:
Palermo, Bagheria, CDG, Corleone all feature heavily as mafia strongholds yet we here little to nothing about the eastern pop centres of Syracuse (120k pop) and Catania (300k pop, which is almost half the size of Palermo).
Are there strong CN presences in the East or is the Sicilian Mafia more a central/western phenom?
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lower left side.bronx wrote:anyone have a pic of valenti
It most likely started in and around Palermo... As for Valente, there's nothing given for his rank but he was a hitter in De Mino's Sciaccatani crew.B. wrote:The work you (and Rick, Dave, and others) have done is just fucking incredible. I had zero interest in anything pre-1930 when I first started reading about the mob because of the "pre-mafia Italian street gang" crap, but as soon as it became clear that there was very much the same organization in place with longstanding connections to the organization in Sicily and how those connections shaped what it was today as it spread through different US cities/neighborhoods, it made me addicted to learning more.
Now, stepping outside your role as a fact-based researcher and going off of gut, do you have any feeling about where it could have started? It would have had to have been somewhere in Palermo proper, right? What blows me away is how such a similar organization also existed in Naples and Calabria. There is a very real phenomena there and it's hard to wrap my brain around it.
Also, was Umberto Valente a captain? He is one of the most interesting guys I've read about from the 1920s. Seems to have been D'Aquila's pitbull.
As my family comes from Calatabiano I would be very interested in reading said book. What is it called?B. wrote:You should check out Antonino Calderone's book.
your good Chris ..thanksChris Christie wrote:lower left side.bronx wrote:anyone have a pic of valenti
"Men of Dishonor"johnny_scootch wrote:As my family comes from Calatabiano I would be very interested in reading said book. What is it called?B. wrote:You should check out Antonino Calderone's book.
One of my all time favorites. Highly recommendB. wrote:"Men of Dishonor"johnny_scootch wrote:As my family comes from Calatabiano I would be very interested in reading said book. What is it called?B. wrote:You should check out Antonino Calderone's book.
B. wrote:The work you (and Rick, Dave, and others) have done is just fucking incredible. I had zero interest in anything pre-1930 when I first started reading about the mob because of the "pre-mafia Italian street gang" crap, but as soon as it became clear that there was very much the same organization in place with longstanding connections to the organization in Sicily and how those connections shaped what it was today as it spread through different US cities/neighborhoods, it made me addicted to learning more.
Now, stepping outside your role as a fact-based researcher and going off of gut, do you have any feeling about where it could have started? It would have had to have been somewhere in Palermo proper, right? What blows me away is how such a similar organization also existed in Naples and Calabria. There is a very real phenomena there and it's hard to wrap my brain around it.
Also, was Umberto Valente a captain? He is one of the most interesting guys I've read about from the 1920s. Seems to have been D'Aquila's pitbull.
+1B. wrote:The work you (and Rick, Dave, and others) have done is just fucking incredible.
+1B. wrote:I had zero interest in anything pre-1930 when I first started reading about the mob because of the "pre-mafia Italian street gang" crap, but as soon as it became clear that there was very much the same organization in place with longstanding connections to the organization in Sicily and how those connections shaped what it was today as it spread through different US cities/neighborhoods, it made me addicted to learning more.