Gasoline Bootlegging: Who started it?

[CabriniGreen]

Gene Borello says Gaspipe was the first to enter the racket... this might be true but......


I gotta call bullshit, 3 reasons.....

1. Michael got indicted for it, like a whole task force...

2. I could be very wrong, but I think Gas got in because the Colombos were too greedy, and the guys ran to the Luchesses...So they were second....maybe...

3. Mike got Joe Glitz in, and I thought HE got in before Casso too..

4. I thought the 5 families panel came AFTER Franzese got indicted, but again, I could be off..

(Then again, if Casso was the first in this racket, how does HE not make the Forbes list too?)

Was this money what got him his Admin slot over the Bronx guys? Was he into the Gas Tax when DeCicco approached him about Castellano?

I read somewhere someone else brought this to Gotti, and he was shocked by the amounts of money......

Any thoughts?

[Villain]

Heres your first guy who entered the biz...screw the Russian mob

[CabriniGreen]

ok, let's make Carlo Gambino 2nd with the gas ration stamps too...

So who was third? Franzese or Casso?

[CabriniGreen]

Gene Borello says Gaspipe was the first to enter the racket... this might be true but......


I gotta call bullshit, 3 reasons.....

1. Michael got indicted for it, like a whole task force...

2. I could be very wrong, but I think Gas got in because the Colombos were too greedy, and the guys ran to the Luchesses...So they were second....maybe...

3. Mike got Joe Glitz in, and I thought HE got in before Casso too..

4. I thought the 5 families panel came AFTER Franzese got indicted, but again, I could be off..

(Then again, if Casso was the first in this racket, how does HE not make the Forbes list too?)

Was this money what got him his Admin slot over the Bronx guys? Was he into the Gas Tax when DeCicco approached him about Castellano?

I read somewhere someone else brought this to Gotti, and he was shocked by the amounts of money......

Any thoughts?

lol, 4 reasons..

[MightyDR]

https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=-ru ... me&f=false

Franzese hooked up with Iorizzo in 1980. Casso got involved with the Russians in the mid 80s.

[Super]

Read some where champagne larry was the first wiseguy main reason he was killed. Any one have anything on frankie the bug. Think christie tic had it before gas in that family

[bert]

It started shorty after they started pumping gas, way before Franzese was even born. Most rackets and scams have been around forever in one form or another.

[Villain]

It started shorty after they started pumping gas, way before Franzese was even born. Most rackets and scams have been around forever in one form or another.

I agree

[CabriniGreen]

It started shorty after they started pumping gas, way before Franzese was even born. Most rackets and scams have been around forever in one form or another.

Lol, name a gasoline bootlegger then.. Or post a link to an major arrest or indictment of the Gas syndicate lmao....
. Y'all being silly for no reason.....

The question really was centered around Casso. If he got into the Gas racket first, then this would have coincided right around the time he became underboss, and around the time DeCicco approached him about Paul.

It never has really made a whole lotta sense why Casso and Amuso were chosen over some guys who were more established. If he brought this new emerging, lucrative racket to the table, it would maybe explain some of why they picked him.

Funari seems to have had the most say in the families choice of successor, I don't know if there was ever a deep dive into Funari. Seems to have been a highly respected killer, not one of the big earners, I dunno...

I'm also trying to figure why Franzese got indicted for being the ringleader, if Casso was the bigger fish.

But like I said, I think it's just Borello throwing darts, Franzeses is his internet/podcast comp now I guess, lol

[CabriniGreen]

You know what, also... I can't help but wonder...


Why did they STOP doing this racket? It seems like all you really need is a front guy for the paperwork. Sell your gas, keep the tax money, close up shop, rinse repeat. I'm assuming they passed some law that made it harder....

A while back, I was in a gas station, and the, I dunno, Arab guy was raving at a customer, they were like haggling over the price of someshit, when he said, " We don't even make nothing off this gas!" I found it kind of an intriguing statement......
The same place recently raised their tobacco prices, which I also thought interesting...

I've always found the Gas Tax racket interesting, Franzese himself? I mean, whatever, lol...

[Villain]

It started shorty after they started pumping gas, way before Franzese was even born. Most rackets and scams have been around forever in one form or another.

Lol, name a gasoline bootlegger then.. Or post a link to an major arrest or indictment of the Gas syndicate lmao....
. Y'all being silly for no reason.....

I already showed you the one about Capone so heres some additional ones which i found with a simple quick search..

This is from 1931...



And from 1933...



Hunders of other cases...so Bert is right. The racket was there even before both Franzese and Casso were born

[CabriniGreen]

Nice, I stand corrected. But that wasn't my question....

I asked WHO had the gas tax racket first, Casso or Franzese, not about the first instances of gasoline bootlegging in history, lol, someone is lying. I'm wondering which one, Franzese or Borello...

[CabriniGreen]

I thought you were going to post something recent, not from the 30s, but it's still interesting.

It seems a lucrative racket from the get-go. Do they still do this in NY? Any family?

[CabriniGreen]

So, yeah, question wasnt about the origins of gasoline bootlegging, ( It actually looks to be an interesting topic..) but between Fanzese and Casso, who was the first to be involved..

I'm thinking Franzese, hes the one who got the big indictment...

[CabriniGreen]

@Villian

You did Chicago burglary, drugs, trash, did you do gas too?