Paul Castellano and Nenè Geraci meeting

[Pogo The Clown]

Macaluso was the UnderBoss during that period. Sorry to nitpick.


Pogo

[felice]

Naimo ended up there because he was very close to Paolo Lo Duca

[B.]

Most of our working knowledge of the "zip" phenomenon comes from the late 1970s and 1980s. The roots go back to the 1960s, when upcoming mafiosi and mafia recruits began leaving Sicily for the US. Because investigators had not yet caught up to what was happening in the late 1960s and early 1970s, I believe there is much more we don't know from that period and it could connect to the Lucchese family.

This thread deals with this a bit: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=5431

There is evidence that Onofrio Milazzo was a Sicilian mafioso who became part of the Lucchese family in the late 1960s. He represented Accetturo (then an associate) in a sitdown with Genovese members and was shown respect by Funzi Tieri in the late 1960s before his deportation. After cooperating, Accetturo claimed Corallo was recruiting Sicilians during this period.

By the 1980s, we only have a few Lucchese "zips" (including the important Naimo) but I think there was an earlier foundation we just don't have enough info on. Onofrio Milazzo was definitely a Sicilian figure who briefly held status in NJ as a representative of the Lucchese family but unfortunately we don't know the specific details of the arrangement.

[CabriniGreen]

Most of our working knowledge of the "zip" phenomenon comes from the late 1970s and 1980s. The roots go back to the 1960s, when upcoming mafiosi and mafia recruits began leaving Sicily for the US. Because investigators had not yet caught up to what was happening in the late 1960s and early 1970s, I believe there is much more we don't know from that period and it could connect to the Lucchese family.

This thread deals with this a bit: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=5431

There is evidence that Onofrio Milazzo was a Sicilian mafioso who became part of the Lucchese family in the late 1960s. He represented Accetturo (then an associate) in a sitdown with Genovese members and was shown respect by Funzi Tieri in the late 1960s before his deportation. After cooperating, Accetturo claimed Corallo was recruiting Sicilians during this period.

By the 1980s, we only have a few Lucchese "zips" (including the important Naimo) but I think there was an earlier foundation we just don't have enough info on. Onofrio Milazzo was definitely a Sicilian figure who briefly held status in NJ as a representative of the Lucchese family but unfortunately we don't know the specific details of the arrangement.

What thread is this?

[CabriniGreen]

Would the guy from the DePalma book, Sonny Vaccaro count as a Luchesse import? He had transferred to the Gambinos from the Luchesses...

I believe the only reason the sicilians didnt organize in NY sooner was that Alfa Romeo blowing up a bunch of cops, and sending all the sicilians into hiding. Although, it did speed up the process of organizing the drug trade. Problem was that it was concentrated in the hands of a few allied clans, causing rivaries...

[CabriniGreen]

Most of our working knowledge of the "zip" phenomenon comes from the late 1970s and 1980s. The roots go back to the 1960s, when upcoming mafiosi and mafia recruits began leaving Sicily for the US.[B/]


This coincides with the car bombing that had mafiosi leaving Sicily. And the American drug operations being disrupted with the arrest of Genovese, Ormento, Galante and the rest. Luciano dies, America's point man over there.

Did the Genovese not make any? Colombos? Buffalo? None got made in Philly?

Was Antonio Inzerillo more a creature of Sicily? We know today the Inzerillos never relinquished their status as a crime family.

I'll start some shit, fuck it. We are all quarantined and bored.

Are the Inzerillos a Gambino regime, or a Sicilian crime family in exile? I'm including Manninos, Gambinos, all the clan families....

Thoughts?

[JeremyTheJew]

Philly according to Octopus had a crew of Sicilians NOT working with Philly LCN.

In the beginning of the book that's how it started off with the agent at first selling stolen paintings to a SICILIAN CLAN bc the informant was to scared to set the Philly LCN. Eventually that led to dope which led to the Cherry Hill Gambinos.

Cabrinigreen - can you look at the first chapter maybe even the prologue of that book and see what I'm talking about?

[don-shunter]

That what I thought that originally the Sicilians of the 70s were self imposed exiles because they saw what leggio and riina were doing or about to do. Over time some of the Sicilians, like John gambino, became Americanised so to speak and affiliated and integrated with the crime family they mostly did business with, but certain Sicilians remained loyal to their crime family in Sicily even though the corleonisi had destroyed them. Therefore the Sicilians that arrived in the 70s, were in my opinion, a cell that operated alongside the US crime families and some members of this cell eventually became part of their chosen US crime family.

[B.]

Sicilians came over for a number of reasons, some of them known and others unknown. The 1950s citrus wars in Palermo, other conflicts in the 1960s, and intense LE scrutiny pushed many Sicilians to the US. There were some younger men among them, too, who it seems just used the existing US-Sicilian connections to make a name for themselves in the US. Cesare Bonventre and Baldo Amato are mistakenly said to be Sicilian mafiosi who came to the US but they came earlier as teenagers and were made into the Bonanno family as adults. They were still from the mafia culture and were "zips", but the ones who are especially interesting to me are the possible transfer members not the ones who were first made in the US.

The Inzerillo brothers came to the US years before their nephew Salvatore Inzerillo was killed by the Corleonesi. It would appear Antonino and possibly his brothers were Passo di Rigano members who transferred to the Gambino family, but they wouldn't have been exiles when they initially came to the US, only later when the war started. In fact, it doesn't seem Nino Inzerillo was ever much of an exile given he was killed so soon after his nephew.

Inzerillos were members of Passo di Rigano in Sicily and dominated the family but there were other members. I'm not sure who replaced Inzerillo as boss. Would be interesting to know what regime was in place in Passo di Rigano after the Corleonesi were in charge.

Going back to Felice's original post, would be good to know if these ceremonies were for a transfer or if they involved re-inductions. The latter seems unlikely. I also wonder if John Gambino was made in Sicily like his brother Rosario but instead opted to transfer to NYC. He shows up as a made member around 1976 when the books opened but I don't think he's been confirmed as one of the first ten "American" inductions.

[scagghiuni]

Inzerillos were members of Passo di Rigano in Sicily and dominated the family but there were other members. I'm not sure who replaced Inzerillo as boss. Would be interesting to know what regime was in place in Passo di Rigano after the Corleonesi were in charge.

i think totò riina replaced him with salvatore buscemi

[B.]

Inzerillos were members of Passo di Rigano in Sicily and dominated the family but there were other members. I'm not sure who replaced Inzerillo as boss. Would be interesting to know what regime was in place in Passo di Rigano after the Corleonesi were in charge.

i think totò riina replaced him with salvatore buscemi

Thanks. Any estimates on how large that cosca was? Gravano said he was told by Castellano that Nino Inzerillo was a capodecina in the Gambino family but had high status in Sicily and was trying to take over a family there. If true, would seem Nino Inzerillo was trying to become boss of Passo di Rigano after his nephew's murder.

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From LCNBios referenced report on the 1970s Gambino inductions:
July 1, 1976
- "[CI] advised there were no 'geeps' (ie foreign born Italians) made in the recent induction of members into the NY LCN Families."

Would make sense as Naimo said that the Sicilian ceremonies were secret, especially if they were transfers not new inductions.

If Naimo's account of the Sicilian recruitment is accurate, would be interesting to think of who the 30 candidates were. We can come up with close to ten possibilities for the Gambino and Bonannos, but difficult for the Luccheses.

[scagghiuni]

Inzerillos were members of Passo di Rigano in Sicily and dominated the family but there were other members. I'm not sure who replaced Inzerillo as boss. Would be interesting to know what regime was in place in Passo di Rigano after the Corleonesi were in charge.

i think totò riina replaced him with salvatore buscemi

Thanks. Any estimates on how large that cosca was? Gravano said he was told by Castellano that Nino Inzerillo was a capodecina in the Gambino family but had high status in Sicily and was trying to take over a family there. If true, would seem Nino Inzerillo was trying to become boss of Passo di Rigano after his nephew's murder.

passo di rigano mandamento has 102 made members according to the dia, passo di rigano family probably 30

[CabriniGreen]

Philly according to Octopus had a crew of Sicilians NOT working with Philly LCN.

In the beginning of the book that's how it started off with the agent at first selling stolen paintings to a SICILIAN CLAN bc the informant was to scared to set the Philly LCN. Eventually that led to dope which led to the Cherry Hill Gambinos.

Cabrinigreen - can you look at the first chapter maybe even the prologue of that book and see what I'm talking about?

Checking now......

[felice]

Alberto Ficalora?

[felice]

Inzerillos were members of Passo di Rigano in Sicily and dominated the family but there were other members. I'm not sure who replaced Inzerillo as boss. Would be interesting to know what regime was in place in Passo di Rigano after the Corleonesi were in charge.

i think totò riina replaced him with salvatore buscemi

Thanks. Any estimates on how large that cosca was? Gravano said he was told by Castellano that Nino Inzerillo was a capodecina in the Gambino family but had high status in Sicily and was trying to take over a family there. If true, would seem Nino Inzerillo was trying to become boss of Passo di Rigano after his nephew's murder.

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From LCNBios referenced report on the 1970s Gambino inductions:
July 1, 1976
- "[CI] advised there were no 'geeps' (ie foreign born Italians) made in the recent induction of members into the NY LCN Families."

Would make sense as Naimo said that the Sicilian ceremonies were secret, especially if they were transfers not new inductions.

If Naimo's account of the Sicilian recruitment is accurate, would be interesting to think of who the 30 candidates were. We can come up with close to ten possibilities for the Gambino and Bonannos, but difficult for the Luccheses.

Nino Inzerillo asked for revenge over the death of his nephew that's why he was killed. The whole mandamento (passo di rigano, uditore, torretta, altarello di baida) had an estimated membership between 150-200 soldiers