Paul Castellano and Nenè Geraci meeting

[felice]

Around 1975 Paul Castellano was becoming the boss of the Gambino family but he had to face another side of the family (Dellacroce), fearing a mob war could start he asked for help to sicilian mobsters.
In those weeks Antonio Geraci, powerful boss of Partinico was in NYC for health matters, Castellano asked for a meeting which was organized by Rosario Naimo.
Castellano normally was very rude but in that occasion he was very pleasant with Geraci, he said that in NY area there were many sicilians who were uncontrolled and that they needed to be part of a family, he said there was a commission decision that every family could make 10 sicilian mobsters, the Bonanno, Gambino, Lucchese families took advantage of it immediately, many sicilians refused getting made in NY, like Naimo, because they were prefering to be indipendent. (Naimo was lated made in the Lucchese)

According to Naimo Castellano was only looking for more street guys since his loyal men were getting old to face the young generation like the Gotti's.
Castellano made several guys because he needed shooters and violent guys around. Looks like that a major concern of some sicilians about getting made in NY was to get attention from fbi because they would have known it ("americans are too much talkative") so there were some secret ceremonies only for sicilians like the one for the Inzerillos, Pietro, Salvatore and Antonio.
Castellano made clear in that meeting that the sicilians should have been banned from drug trafficking and counterfeit money. (lol)



based on the collaboration of Rosario Naimo

[felice]

Naimo talks about a murder and he names a Gambino guy known as "Tony Cassata" (phonetic).

Has anybody a clue about who he could be? thank you

[motorfab]

I didn't know they had met. Thank you for this info felice

[CabriniGreen]

@felice

This from FBI reports? Very interesting... question..

At this point, 75, was Naimo acting as a representative of the Corleonesi?

Stubbs had posted an article saying Leggio visited NY in like 72 or 74, you think this was possible?

You think Leggio sent Naimo to be the Sicilian mafia representative?

Previously, felice, your notes from Iron Tower said Castellano asked the sicilians for help, but they told him they would have to be allowed to Increase their heroin business...

I'm really thinking all this drug ban talk was a political maneuver to keep the sicilians from making inroads into American LCNs power structure....

I also find it intriguing that sicilians were refusing to made in America, preferring their independence. I've always suspected this, how else can you explain guys like Ciccio Gambino?

Keep it coming felice, photos all of it. This faction of Cosa Nostra I find the most compelling, with the whole Montreal thing a close second. In fact, I see them as related.....

[CabriniGreen]

I love these type of post....

I remember, I think Lupara was VERY surprised when it was posted, that the Gambinos sicilian faction was like 8 made guys after Inzerillo and that Gambi o guy was killed...

Well, this 10 member thi g would explain this. Also explains that the faction is larger than the number of made guys.....

[felice]

@felice

This from FBI reports? Very interesting... question..

At this point, 75, was Naimo acting as a representative of the Corleonesi?

Stubbs had posted an article saying Leggio visited NY in like 72 or 74, you think this was possible?

You think Leggio sent Naimo to be the Sicilian mafia representative?

Previously, felice, your notes from Iron Tower said Castellano asked the sicilians for help, but they told him they would have to be allowed to Increase their heroin business...

I'm really thinking all this drug ban talk was a political maneuver to keep the sicilians from making inroads into American LCNs power structure....

I also find it intriguing that sicilians were refusing to made in America, preferring their independence. I've always suspected this, how else can you explain guys like Ciccio Gambino?

Keep it coming felice, photos all of it. This faction of Cosa Nostra I find the most compelling, with the whole Montreal thing a close second. In fact, I see them as related.....

yes, Naimo was the Corleonesi leader in the Usa, all the "scappati" fugitives from sicilian mafia had to report to him.
I do not remember the part abot my iron tower notes saying that.
Ciccio Gambino was very powerful and influent in that period.

[CabriniGreen]

Apr 12, 2020 6:09 am

felice wrote: 1. After Carlo Gambino's death Paul Castellano asked for sicilian mafia to officially support him. Antonino Inzerillo, Gambino family captain was sent to sicily to get a commission approval to support Castellano. Castellano could have had problems with a side of the family.
Castellano got sicilian mafia support but he had to allow sicilian mafiosi to increase their heroin business. Castellano took money from Catalano and Rosario Naimo even if they were not members of his family.

2. Pasquale Conte paid 100k for his membership, it was a well known fact among family members

3. After Castellano's death main Gotti's preoccupation was a possible retalation from sicilians so he kept visiting John Gambino to keep him close and so did Gravano who used to be the mid man between them. Gravano visited Gambino at least once a week
Gotti once called Gambino for a meeting, Gambino refused saying he didn't have anything to say
Another time Gotti told to Joe Gambino he wanted to meet John to pay his respect but John refused again to meet him
Another time Gotti got furious because in his presence Gambino ignored him by talking to FNU Russo in sicilian
Gambino got offended because Gotti called him "skipper"
Again Gotti called Gambino for a meeting but Gambino replied he was not going to meet anyone that month
Gambino was disturbed about not being informed or consulted about Castellano's death, he considered it highly disrespecting

4. When Scarfo started to have legal problems John Gambino pushed to have Albert Pontani as new boss in Philadelphia, Gotti agreed. There was a meeting in NJ

5. John Gambino had a serious beef with James Failla, investigators were told to be ready because violent acts could happen

6. After Castellano's death Tommy Gambino and Frank Paul Gambino son of Paul got closer to John Gambino to have his protection. Tommy Gambino became a very frequent visitor of Caffè Giardino. Frank Gambino was a Ferro foods exutive. The Gambinos used that company to move heroin

7. John Gambino was seen as very old school mafioso and several members wanted him as Gotti successor

8. Philip "Rusty" LNU was a Gambino's associate who used to be the street tax collector in Bensonhurst. He later had problems with John Gambino. This Rusty once appeared in Fortune magazine. He was a business man

9. In the 80s the Gambino brothers were running an empire of 200 pizzerias all under control of Ferro foods. Several Gambinos relatives were employed there. Joe Gambino used to make 30k a week just with some videopoker machines placed in bensonhurst. Sources estimated the Gambinos had milions and they still make milions.

10. Giuseppe Gambino killed in 1988 by Oliveri was an heroin trafficker and answered to Cheech Gambino.

11. Ceech Gambino was a rising star among organized crime figures in Brooklyn, if he wouldn't have been arrested he would have become a mafia leader according to fbi. Gambino was a sicilian mafia leader and headed a group of about 30 sicilian mobsters

12. Simone Zito and Tony Mannino started to be pretty indipendent after they killed a guy. Tony Mannino even sent John Gambino to fuck himself off. Zito once sitted on John Gambino's desk. Gambino said he was going to lose his patience. Most efficent mobster in John Gambino's crew was Salvatore Rina, a real gangster.

13. Gambino and his crew have been involved in at least 7 murders

[CabriniGreen]

I had mistakenly posted in the old thread, sorry...

[felice]

ah ok, thank you, I did not remember that part

[CabriniGreen]

@felice

This from FBI reports? Very interesting... question..

At this point, 75, was Naimo acting as a representative of the Corleonesi?

Stubbs had posted an article saying Leggio visited NY in like 72 or 74, you think this was possible?

You think Leggio sent Naimo to be the Sicilian mafia representative?

Previously, felice, your notes from Iron Tower said Castellano asked the sicilians for help, but they told him they would have to be allowed to Increase their heroin business...

I'm really thinking all this drug ban talk was a political maneuver to keep the sicilians from making inroads into American LCNs power structure....

I also find it intriguing that sicilians were refusing to made in America, preferring their independence. I've always suspected this, how else can you explain guys like Ciccio Gambino?

Keep it coming felice, photos all of it. This faction of Cosa Nostra I find the most compelling, with the whole Montreal thing a close second. In fact, I see them as related.....

yes, Naimo was the Corleonesi leader in the Usa, all the "scappati" fugitives from sicilian mafia had to report to him.
I do not remember the part abot my iron tower notes saying that.
Ciccio Gambino was very powerful and influent in that period.

The reason I asked this, was because in 75 they wernt chased out of Sicily yet.....

The Corleonesi were still operating in a clandestine type of way in Sicily, or no?

I'm starting to think Leggio maybe could have made a trip, and the Corleonesi establishing their own connection to NY spelled doom for the Palermo bosses....

[CabriniGreen]

yes, Naimo was the Corleonesi leader in the Usa, all the "scappati" fugitives from sicilian mafia had to report to him.
I do not remember the part abot my iron tower notes saying that.
Ciccio Gambino was very powerful and influent in that period.


This is interesting as well, so John Gambino, the Inzerillos, had to report to, or check with Naimo before they did anything?

How did the Gambino Administration factor in with these guys? They report to Naimo, who reported to the Administration? But he took orders from Sicily, Leggio and Riina?

I've never really got how this all works, the SIMPLEST explanation I could come up with was double affiliates, which isnt a consensus amongst the mobwatchers... What do you think?

[don-shunter]

Weren't the Sicilian mafiosi in the US really a group that had no leadership except to the ruling family in Sicily (Corleone)? That whichever family they were affiliated to or even made into within the US didn't matter because they were beholden to the Sicilian mafia more than the US? I always thought that was what law enforcement believed anyway.

[felice]

@cabrini they had to report to Naimo they were in the Usa so not back in Sicily or Italy

[Eline2015]

Some how does not fit with that
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4254&p=100021&hilit=Amodeo#p100021

[don-shunter]

Some how does not fit with that
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4254&p=100021&hilit=Amodeo#p100021

Good point. I thought it was debunked that Neil and Paul could of had a violent fallout if both wanted the boss position. I thought Carlo had picked Paul as new boss and that was it as long as Neil remained underboss.