Angelo Bruno's drug operations

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No one is trying to change anything. It is well known before Leonetti that Bruno took money from known drug traffickers like Harry Riccobene, Long John Marotrano, the Gambino brothers and others. Your being niaeve if you think these bosses don't knowingly take drug money.


And not that is has anything do with this but Bruno was responsible for far more murders than Leonetti. That whole Gentle Don thing was a media creation.


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Villain wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:23 am I dont know which family Caponigro served during the early 70s, so if it was the Bruno group then Ive seen some records regarding he being involved in narcotics shipments with some high level Chicago members at the time
There was definitely a lot of drugs moved there during Bruno's time. I don't think he had as much control as thought, I don't think any boss does. There are bosses who must hear of it and ignore it figuring they can't micro manage everyone, and others so isolated they don't know of it. Take Castellano, he would never have known of Ruggerio and drugs if not for the arrest and tapes he wanted to hear that they would not turn over.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:28 am No one is trying to change anything. It is well known before Leonetti that Bruno took money from known drug traffickers like Harry Riccobene, Long John Marotrano, the Gambino brothers and others.
Your being niaeve if you think these bosses don't knowingly take drug money.

And not that is has anything do with this but Bruno was responsible for far more murders than Leonetti. That whole Gentle Don thing was a media creation.


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It doesn't mean I am, we are both looking at the same story and seeing it differently and discussing it. I won't call you naive or anything else, there's no need for it.
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It is fact that Bruno was knowingly taking money from drug dealers. Same with Castellano. There is nothing to see differently.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:36 am It is fact that Bruno was knowingly taking money from drug dealers. Same with Castellano.
There is nothing to see differently.
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bert wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:22 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:40 pm Maybe because he was a murdering mob boss who took money from drug dealers?


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Leonetti is the source, he was a worse murderer, so his word is no good. It is possible Angelo Bruno had his people stay away from it, that was always the story, now people want to change it. The most disturbing aspect of this entire debate is that somehow I am on the same side of a debate with Grouchy.

I don't trust Leonetti a drop. Murderer and rat. If he beat that case him and his uncle were on he would have kept killing.
Being on the same side of a debate with Grouchy should be your first clue that you're on the wrong track.

Furthermore, Leonetti being a killer doesn't automatically disqualify him as a believable source on this issue. It's guys in the mob who are going to know about other guys in the mob. Your local priest isn't going to have much to say on whether Angelo Bruno was involved in drugs or not.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:28 am And not that is has anything do with this but Bruno was responsible for far more murders than Leonetti. That whole Gentle Don thing was a media creation.
Ah to be fair to the media (can't believe I just typed that) there's a grain of truth in the "Gentle Don" thing, in that Bruno wasn't quite as trigger-happy as his successors, as he only murdered someone once every 1-3 years instead of a couple times or more a year like Scarfo/Testa/Stanfa/Merlino.

So it's sort of true. :lol:
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:37 am According to GohnJotti and Ivan, Bruno must have been pro drug dealing because he didn't go to war with the Gambino family and all of their allies for selling drugs on their turf.
Angelo Bruno was a drug dealer.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:41 am Yeah I'm sure he was against drugs when he was spending all of that meth and heroin money.


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How much did he spend? He lived rather modestly. His house was very working class. You have to wonder how much of a cut he really did take. May not have been much. He let the Gambinos deal on his turf because he had to and of course he was getting a cut. He was a mob boss. Nobody denies that. But if he had it his way, he wouldn't have allowed it.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:28 am That whole Gentle Don thing was a media creation.


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The fact that he took drug money proves he wasn't a more amicable boss than most?
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OK now you are just trolling.


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Every time you, Confederate or Wiseguy are in a corner you accuse the person of "trolling".
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Because you are. I was clearly talking about Bruno being responsible for several murders in reference to the Gentle Don narrative but you turn it into me talking him taking drug money. So you are either trolling or simply can't read. You also bring up the inane arguement of him living modestly or having a working class house when just about every Boss lived the same way. Carmine Galante lived very modestly as well. If I remember right he lived with his daughter in her house or maybe it was an apartment. Using your logic he must not have been getting much of a cut from drug dealers either.


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Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:46 pm Every time you, Confederate or Wiseguy are in a corner you accuse the person of "trolling".
First, you've never backed anyone into a corner. Second, 90% of what you do on this forum is troll. And you know it.
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No I just don't share the same political views as you three and whenever I challenge your weak arguments you accuse me of trolling.
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