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'NICE KIDS' AND 'OUTSIDERS' THE VIEW FROM HOWARD BEACH
By Michael DobbsFebruary 18, 1987
HOWARD BEACH, N.Y. -- The teen-agers hanging out at the Big Bow Wow Deli and Games room were all agreed. What happened to Bobby Riley, Thomas Gucciardo or Michael Pirone could have happened to any of them.
Last week, Riley, a corrections officer's son who liked to organize sidewalk softball games, was charged with second-degree murder. Gucciardo, nicknamed "the Gooch," was charged with attempted murder. And Pirone, who regularly attended Sunday mass at the local Roman Catholic Church, was accused of assault and riot.
The indictments against the three 17-year-olds were among 12 issued by a grand jury investigating the Dec. 20 attack on three blacks whose car broke down here in Howard Beach, a secluded middle-class neighborhood near John F. Kennedy International Airport. They shocked a community that sees itself as an enclave of solid, small-town values at the edge of a sprawling, crime-ridden metropolis.
Friends and neighbors describe the indicted teen-agers for the most part as "nice kids from good homes." They frequent the Bow Wow and the bowling alley down Cross Bay Boulevard, earn pocket money working at local restaurants and compete for girlfriends' attention.
Yet these same people allegedly set upon three blacks with bats and sticks, chasing two of them toward a busy highway. Prosecutors contend that such "depraved indifference to human life" directly caused the death of Michael Griffith, 24, who ran into the path of a car.
Jon Lester, one of the teen-agers, allegedly incited friends at a party with the words "There were some ######s in the pizza parlor . . . . Let's go back and kill them." The same youth, nicknamed "Johnny English" because of his family background, is remembered as a particularly diligent paperboy. A baby-faced 17-year-old, he was described by a former girlfriend, who is black, as one of the nicest kids she had ever met.
The explanation for the contradiction between the reassuring image of "ordinary kids next door" and the vicious behavior described in the indictment lies at least partly in the history of Howard Beach. This is the story of how a model community, established by second-generation immigrants anxious to move up in the world, has been transformed unwillingly into a symbol of newly resurgent racism.
State Supreme Court Justice Alfred D. Lerner has called the case "an American tragedy," and conversations with the defendants' friends help reveal its source. The issues involved are so sensitive that several of those interviewed at the Bow Wow and elsewhere declined to give their full names.
"It could have been any of us," said Ronnie Giallenzo, 16, who said he dropped out of high school because he didn't like blacks. "It was just an ordinary fight. I heard that Griffith got hit and ran away. They didn't mean to kill him."
"It wasn't racial. It could have happened to any outsider who had come into this neighborhood who was up to no good," said Ricky Kessler, 17, lounging on top of an electronic football game at the Bow Wow.
It is almost an article of faith among many Howard Beach residents that the victims of the attack were "up to no good." They point to various inconsistencies in the survivors' accounts, and they cite a long list of crimes in the area -- from automobile thefts and muggings to rapes and armed robberies -- committed by blacks.
"It's a natural reaction," said Sal Manzo, whose family owns the Bow Wow restaurant. "If there were a whole lot of crimes being committed by green people, and you met a green person on the street, then you would probably associate him with criminal activity."
Carved out of farm land in the early 1950s, Howard Beach remained overwhelmingly white, attracting Italian, Irish and Jewish families seeking to trade inner-city turmoil for security and status.
"This neighborhood is made up of people who made it and moved out of Brooklyn. It's a nice, secluded community. Family ties are very strong here," said Teresa Grice, a teacher at the local Catholic school who settled here 32 years ago.
Debbie, the 14-year-old daughter of Italian immigrants who moved to Howard Beach from Brooklyn, put it more succinctly. "When the blacks moved in, we moved out," she told reporters at the Bow Wow.
Most Howard Beach residents are small businessmen or blue-collar workers fortunate enough to have bought houses here for between $10,000 and $25,000 three decades ago. An average two-story home here now goes for around $275,000.
The mix of new money and an eagerness to impress is visible in the brick-and-shingle two-story houses in neat rows. Alabaster lions guard well-tended lawns. Buicks and Cadillacs stand outside wrought-iron gates and colonial pillars that seem too large for the houses behind them. Tastes in furniture run to heavy crystal chandeliers and mock Louis XIV chairs covered in pink plastic.
The small-town atmosphere of Howard Beach is heightened by the physical isolation: Bounded on three sides by the airport, Jamaica Bay and the largest nature reserve in New York City. Proud of their hard-gotten gains, residents have reacted vigorously to unwelcome intrusions such as supersonic aircraft, garbage dumps and, above all, a rising crime rate.
Howard Beach's relative affluence makes it a target for petty criminals from poorer neighborhoods nearby. Severio del George, a neighbor of the Riley family, said he has had four cars stolen in the last three years. He now contributes $250 a year to a residential association to hire a private security firm to patrol the streets.
The patrols were provoked by an incident four years ago in which three gunmen broke into several houses with axes. The three-hour crime spree included raping and looting. When talk in Howard Beach turns to crime, which it frequently does, people invariably mention that the assailants were black.
"If a black guy attacks a white guy, it's called a crime. If a white attacks a black, it's racial," said John Grice, a teacher.
Many residents resent what they see as a tendency to label their community as "racist" because of the actions of a few individuals. They also regard as "hypocritical" a society that relegates news of everyday crime to inside pages while making dramatic front-page headlines out of such incidents as Griffith's death.
"This isn't an American tragedy," insisted one middle-aged matron, peeking out from behind a specially installed wrought-iron security door. "What's a tragedy is the cop who was shot by a 15-year-old black kid and is now paralyzed for life . . . . But nobody talks about that." The officer is paralyzed from the neck down after being shot last summer in Central Park; his young assailant is serving a 3 1/3- to 10-year sentence.
Black leaders from other parts of New York say racism is inbred and endemic in Howard Beach. Most blacks, they say, are too intimidated to live where they are automatically regarded with suspicion. Some will not even drive through the place.
Residents have little contact with blacks. The one exception is the local public high school in nearby Ozone Park, John Adams, frequently described as "a jungle" by whites. But even at school, there is little mixing.
"The blacks hang out at the front, the whites on the side, and the Puerto Ricans at the back," said Giallenzo, adding: "I hate black people, and I always will. I'm prejudiced and I'm proud of it."
Giallenzo, who is half-Italian, half-Jewish, boasted that he would beat any black who ventured into the Bow Wow. Then he noticed Charlie, a black employe who hands out quarters for the games. Wandering over to hug him, Giallenzo said: "I wouldn't pick on Charlie. He's my only black friend. Besides, he's bigger than me."
Charlie, who refused to speak to a reporter or give his last name, is often cited by Howard Beach residents as evidence that "honest" blacks will not be molested. He lives in neighboring Jamaica and has been working at the Bow Wow for as long as the young people around here can remember.
Several teen-agers nearby dissociated themselves from Giallenzo's remarks about blacks. But they did not appear to find them particularly shocking or unusual.
As he spoke, two of the indicted teen-agers -- Pirone and James Povinelli -- came into the Bow Wow. They were greeted warmly by their friends but would not speak to a reporter. The only defendant who does not show his face in the restaurant is Riley, who gave information to the special prosecutor that expanded the number and severity of the indictments.
"Riley's a rat," said Toni, 14, a ninth grader who had made herself up like a miniature version of the rock star Madonna in her punk persona. "He has to have cops parked outside his house all the time now. His brother {a police officer} is a stool pigeon."
Riley's decision to cooperate with law enforcement authorities has surprised and dismayed the teen-agers at the Bow Wow, who seem to view it as a betrayal. A tough-looking youth, Riley was regarded as a natural leader. His friends said they believe he gave in to pressure from his father and brother in exchange for a reduced sentence.
Beyond a natural desire to defend their children, parents in Howard Beach speak nostalgically of a vanished past when standards of upbringing were stricter and children were grateful for what they were given. Some of the teen-agers at the Bow Wow said they were given as much as $50 a week by their parents to spend on the electronic games.
"Kids today have too much freedom," said del George, 53, with the assurance of someone who made his own way up the world. "They need our parents, they need to know what it's like to be at home at 5 p.m. for dinner -- or not get any dinner. When we saw a priest in the street, we would say, 'Hello, Father.' Kids these days are more likely to mug him."
"It's no longer the neighborhood we originally moved into," John Grice said. "We were poor, struggling people when we came here. Now we have become nouveau riche, I suppose. Money is the new god. Parents are trying to overcompensate their children for what they did not have."
Howard Beach, most residents agree, has changed more since Griffith's death, and race relations appear to have deteriorated. Residents have reacted by blaming outsiders for their image problems. New York Mayor Edward I. Koch, who compared the incident to a lynching in the old South, is held up for special ridicule.
Much of the pride of living here has also disappeared. In the old days, people such as the Grices and the del Georges would say they came from Howard Beach to distinguish themselves from people living in the rest of Queens or New York. No longer.
"Nowadays, when we are asked where we are from, we say New York City," John Grice said. "Howard Beach has become infamous."Special correspondent Dody Tsiantar contributed to this report.
By Michael DobbsFebruary 18, 1987
HOWARD BEACH, N.Y. -- The teen-agers hanging out at the Big Bow Wow Deli and Games room were all agreed. What happened to Bobby Riley, Thomas Gucciardo or Michael Pirone could have happened to any of them.
Last week, Riley, a corrections officer's son who liked to organize sidewalk softball games, was charged with second-degree murder. Gucciardo, nicknamed "the Gooch," was charged with attempted murder. And Pirone, who regularly attended Sunday mass at the local Roman Catholic Church, was accused of assault and riot.
The indictments against the three 17-year-olds were among 12 issued by a grand jury investigating the Dec. 20 attack on three blacks whose car broke down here in Howard Beach, a secluded middle-class neighborhood near John F. Kennedy International Airport. They shocked a community that sees itself as an enclave of solid, small-town values at the edge of a sprawling, crime-ridden metropolis.
Friends and neighbors describe the indicted teen-agers for the most part as "nice kids from good homes." They frequent the Bow Wow and the bowling alley down Cross Bay Boulevard, earn pocket money working at local restaurants and compete for girlfriends' attention.
Yet these same people allegedly set upon three blacks with bats and sticks, chasing two of them toward a busy highway. Prosecutors contend that such "depraved indifference to human life" directly caused the death of Michael Griffith, 24, who ran into the path of a car.
Jon Lester, one of the teen-agers, allegedly incited friends at a party with the words "There were some ######s in the pizza parlor . . . . Let's go back and kill them." The same youth, nicknamed "Johnny English" because of his family background, is remembered as a particularly diligent paperboy. A baby-faced 17-year-old, he was described by a former girlfriend, who is black, as one of the nicest kids she had ever met.
The explanation for the contradiction between the reassuring image of "ordinary kids next door" and the vicious behavior described in the indictment lies at least partly in the history of Howard Beach. This is the story of how a model community, established by second-generation immigrants anxious to move up in the world, has been transformed unwillingly into a symbol of newly resurgent racism.
State Supreme Court Justice Alfred D. Lerner has called the case "an American tragedy," and conversations with the defendants' friends help reveal its source. The issues involved are so sensitive that several of those interviewed at the Bow Wow and elsewhere declined to give their full names.
"It could have been any of us," said Ronnie Giallenzo, 16, who said he dropped out of high school because he didn't like blacks. "It was just an ordinary fight. I heard that Griffith got hit and ran away. They didn't mean to kill him."
"It wasn't racial. It could have happened to any outsider who had come into this neighborhood who was up to no good," said Ricky Kessler, 17, lounging on top of an electronic football game at the Bow Wow.
It is almost an article of faith among many Howard Beach residents that the victims of the attack were "up to no good." They point to various inconsistencies in the survivors' accounts, and they cite a long list of crimes in the area -- from automobile thefts and muggings to rapes and armed robberies -- committed by blacks.
"It's a natural reaction," said Sal Manzo, whose family owns the Bow Wow restaurant. "If there were a whole lot of crimes being committed by green people, and you met a green person on the street, then you would probably associate him with criminal activity."
Carved out of farm land in the early 1950s, Howard Beach remained overwhelmingly white, attracting Italian, Irish and Jewish families seeking to trade inner-city turmoil for security and status.
"This neighborhood is made up of people who made it and moved out of Brooklyn. It's a nice, secluded community. Family ties are very strong here," said Teresa Grice, a teacher at the local Catholic school who settled here 32 years ago.
Debbie, the 14-year-old daughter of Italian immigrants who moved to Howard Beach from Brooklyn, put it more succinctly. "When the blacks moved in, we moved out," she told reporters at the Bow Wow.
Most Howard Beach residents are small businessmen or blue-collar workers fortunate enough to have bought houses here for between $10,000 and $25,000 three decades ago. An average two-story home here now goes for around $275,000.
The mix of new money and an eagerness to impress is visible in the brick-and-shingle two-story houses in neat rows. Alabaster lions guard well-tended lawns. Buicks and Cadillacs stand outside wrought-iron gates and colonial pillars that seem too large for the houses behind them. Tastes in furniture run to heavy crystal chandeliers and mock Louis XIV chairs covered in pink plastic.
The small-town atmosphere of Howard Beach is heightened by the physical isolation: Bounded on three sides by the airport, Jamaica Bay and the largest nature reserve in New York City. Proud of their hard-gotten gains, residents have reacted vigorously to unwelcome intrusions such as supersonic aircraft, garbage dumps and, above all, a rising crime rate.
Howard Beach's relative affluence makes it a target for petty criminals from poorer neighborhoods nearby. Severio del George, a neighbor of the Riley family, said he has had four cars stolen in the last three years. He now contributes $250 a year to a residential association to hire a private security firm to patrol the streets.
The patrols were provoked by an incident four years ago in which three gunmen broke into several houses with axes. The three-hour crime spree included raping and looting. When talk in Howard Beach turns to crime, which it frequently does, people invariably mention that the assailants were black.
"If a black guy attacks a white guy, it's called a crime. If a white attacks a black, it's racial," said John Grice, a teacher.
Many residents resent what they see as a tendency to label their community as "racist" because of the actions of a few individuals. They also regard as "hypocritical" a society that relegates news of everyday crime to inside pages while making dramatic front-page headlines out of such incidents as Griffith's death.
"This isn't an American tragedy," insisted one middle-aged matron, peeking out from behind a specially installed wrought-iron security door. "What's a tragedy is the cop who was shot by a 15-year-old black kid and is now paralyzed for life . . . . But nobody talks about that." The officer is paralyzed from the neck down after being shot last summer in Central Park; his young assailant is serving a 3 1/3- to 10-year sentence.
Black leaders from other parts of New York say racism is inbred and endemic in Howard Beach. Most blacks, they say, are too intimidated to live where they are automatically regarded with suspicion. Some will not even drive through the place.
Residents have little contact with blacks. The one exception is the local public high school in nearby Ozone Park, John Adams, frequently described as "a jungle" by whites. But even at school, there is little mixing.
"The blacks hang out at the front, the whites on the side, and the Puerto Ricans at the back," said Giallenzo, adding: "I hate black people, and I always will. I'm prejudiced and I'm proud of it."
Giallenzo, who is half-Italian, half-Jewish, boasted that he would beat any black who ventured into the Bow Wow. Then he noticed Charlie, a black employe who hands out quarters for the games. Wandering over to hug him, Giallenzo said: "I wouldn't pick on Charlie. He's my only black friend. Besides, he's bigger than me."
Charlie, who refused to speak to a reporter or give his last name, is often cited by Howard Beach residents as evidence that "honest" blacks will not be molested. He lives in neighboring Jamaica and has been working at the Bow Wow for as long as the young people around here can remember.
Several teen-agers nearby dissociated themselves from Giallenzo's remarks about blacks. But they did not appear to find them particularly shocking or unusual.
As he spoke, two of the indicted teen-agers -- Pirone and James Povinelli -- came into the Bow Wow. They were greeted warmly by their friends but would not speak to a reporter. The only defendant who does not show his face in the restaurant is Riley, who gave information to the special prosecutor that expanded the number and severity of the indictments.
"Riley's a rat," said Toni, 14, a ninth grader who had made herself up like a miniature version of the rock star Madonna in her punk persona. "He has to have cops parked outside his house all the time now. His brother {a police officer} is a stool pigeon."
Riley's decision to cooperate with law enforcement authorities has surprised and dismayed the teen-agers at the Bow Wow, who seem to view it as a betrayal. A tough-looking youth, Riley was regarded as a natural leader. His friends said they believe he gave in to pressure from his father and brother in exchange for a reduced sentence.
Beyond a natural desire to defend their children, parents in Howard Beach speak nostalgically of a vanished past when standards of upbringing were stricter and children were grateful for what they were given. Some of the teen-agers at the Bow Wow said they were given as much as $50 a week by their parents to spend on the electronic games.
"Kids today have too much freedom," said del George, 53, with the assurance of someone who made his own way up the world. "They need our parents, they need to know what it's like to be at home at 5 p.m. for dinner -- or not get any dinner. When we saw a priest in the street, we would say, 'Hello, Father.' Kids these days are more likely to mug him."
"It's no longer the neighborhood we originally moved into," John Grice said. "We were poor, struggling people when we came here. Now we have become nouveau riche, I suppose. Money is the new god. Parents are trying to overcompensate their children for what they did not have."
Howard Beach, most residents agree, has changed more since Griffith's death, and race relations appear to have deteriorated. Residents have reacted by blaming outsiders for their image problems. New York Mayor Edward I. Koch, who compared the incident to a lynching in the old South, is held up for special ridicule.
Much of the pride of living here has also disappeared. In the old days, people such as the Grices and the del Georges would say they came from Howard Beach to distinguish themselves from people living in the rest of Queens or New York. No longer.
"Nowadays, when we are asked where we are from, we say New York City," John Grice said. "Howard Beach has become infamous."Special correspondent Dody Tsiantar contributed to this report.
"People always underestimate me, Don."
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"You know what the real difference is between crooks and lawmen, Warden?
[Warden] Try me.
What side of the bars they're on."
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"You know what the real difference is between crooks and lawmen, Warden?
[Warden] Try me.
What side of the bars they're on."
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“Wow. Then he noticed Charlie, a black employe who hands out quarters for the games. Wandering over to hug him, Giallenzo said: "I wouldn't pick on Charlie. He's my only black friend. Besides, he's bigger than me."
“I hate black people, and I always will. I'm prejudiced and I'm proud of it."
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“I hate black people, and I always will. I'm prejudiced and I'm proud of it."
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Bobby Riley had a family heavy into law enforcement, including a police captain who was his uncle. He got off by giving up everyone else.
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Ricky Kessler and Ronnie G , Today Ricky ratted on everyone and Ronnie is sitting behind bars away from his Howard Beach enclave where he was comfortable and safe from all the "Blacks" I wonder how Ronnie feels in prison ? Lmao , You'd think the guy woulda did something different in life , Now he lives in a majority black neighborhood at his designated prison , How Ironic ! I can't stand HB and racists
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Speaking of being safe from all the blacks by living in Howard beach I heard a rumor and I don't live in Howard beach so I can't say for sure but I heard biggie smalls daughter bought a house there. Supposedly the next door neighbors immediately put there house up for sale and she bought that one too!Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:10 pm Ricky Kessler and Ronnie G , Today Ricky ratted on everyone and Ronnie is sitting behind bars away from his Howard Beach enclave where he was comfortable and safe from all the "Blacks" I wonder how Ronnie feels in prison ? Lmao , You'd think the guy woulda did something different in life , Now he lives in a majority black neighborhood at his designated prison , How Ironic
Now 3 or 4 houses on the block have for sale signs up.
Do we have any howard beach guys who could confirm this? sounds ridiculous enough to be true.
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Not truejohnny_scootch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:49 pmSpeaking of being safe from all the blacks by living in Howard beach I heard a rumor and I don't live in Howard beach so I can't say for sure but I heard biggie smalls daughter bought a house there. Supposedly the next door neighbors immediately put there house up for sale and she bought that one too!Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:10 pm Ricky Kessler and Ronnie G , Today Ricky ratted on everyone and Ronnie is sitting behind bars away from his Howard Beach enclave where he was comfortable and safe from all the "Blacks" I wonder how Ronnie feels in prison ? Lmao , You'd think the guy woulda did something different in life , Now he lives in a majority black neighborhood at his designated prison , How Ironic
Now 3 or 4 houses on the block have for sale signs up.
Do we have any howard beach guys who could confirm this? sounds ridiculous enough to be true.
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Sounds like a fake tmz headline loljohnny_scootch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:49 pmSpeaking of being safe from all the blacks by living in Howard beach I heard a rumor and I don't live in Howard beach so I can't say for sure but I heard biggie smalls daughter bought a house there. Supposedly the next door neighbors immediately put there house up for sale and she bought that one too!Bklyn21 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:10 pm Ricky Kessler and Ronnie G , Today Ricky ratted on everyone and Ronnie is sitting behind bars away from his Howard Beach enclave where he was comfortable and safe from all the "Blacks" I wonder how Ronnie feels in prison ? Lmao , You'd think the guy woulda did something different in life , Now he lives in a majority black neighborhood at his designated prison , How Ironic
Now 3 or 4 houses on the block have for sale signs up.
Do we have any howard beach guys who could confirm this? sounds ridiculous enough to be true.
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Ronnie g a jew didnt know that
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He’s Vinny Asaro’s nephew too, so the whole family must have know known his mother was Jewish. Was Asaro a captain by 1987?
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He was promoted in 1993.
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speaking of Ronnie G, the kid Gene Borrello just did an hour long interview for a podcast. not the Alite Vlad TV thing, an hour in full on his own. honestly a great interview. talks a little about Ronnie (Ronnie dropped out of school in 9th grade, Ronnie at his peak was collecting $30k a week in interest from his loans every friday, Ronnie was functionally retarded but knew how to make money) and goes into his own background. nothing too new compared to whats already in public record but its a good interview
im typing from a phone so i cant check but just search gene borrello on youtube and its one of the first results
im typing from a phone so i cant check but just search gene borrello on youtube and its one of the first results
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newera_212 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:01 pm speaking of Ronnie G, the kid Gene Borrello just did an hour long interview for a podcast. not the Alite Vlad TV thing, an hour in full on his own. honestly a great interview. talks a little about Ronnie (Ronnie dropped out of school in 9th grade, Ronnie at his peak was collecting $30k a week in interest from his loans every friday, Ronnie was functionally retarded but knew how to make money) and goes into his own background. nothing too new compared to whats already in public record but its a good interview
im typing from a phone so i cant check but just search gene borrello on youtube and its one of the first results
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5881
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ahh good stuffdave wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:10 pmnewera_212 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:01 pm speaking of Ronnie G, the kid Gene Borrello just did an hour long interview for a podcast. not the Alite Vlad TV thing, an hour in full on his own. honestly a great interview. talks a little about Ronnie (Ronnie dropped out of school in 9th grade, Ronnie at his peak was collecting $30k a week in interest from his loans every friday, Ronnie was functionally retarded but knew how to make money) and goes into his own background. nothing too new compared to whats already in public record but its a good interview
im typing from a phone so i cant check but just search gene borrello on youtube and its one of the first results
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5881
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Thanks buster. Tommy it does sound insane and I'm glad someone said its not true because HB is one of the last bastions for italian americans. Even by me things are going downhill. A nigerian church bought the Falco mansion in Bergen beach and everyone is very upset, people planning protests and worse if they try to hold their masses their.