Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

[Bklyn21]

This is a Gambinos thread and I went off topic but Gohn is a master on the goings on of the Colombos which I'm also very interested as they are always at war with one another and very violent and active in street shit still and more neighborhood based than any other family IMO. On another note, Along with the people I mentioned up top I forgot to add that along with those guys , One of the Persico grandsons who's in his 20s was also recently inducted Supposedly ? Don't know if true if false or what ? Again Street talk BS from a source thats not too credible , Or have no idea if the person has credibility ?? So don't quote me on any of it !!!

[AntComello]

Going off topic a lil here , Over on McDonald ave. in BK Gravesend etc . There is alot of Albanian activity , Albanian Social clubs , Cafes, And businesses . I dunno if they've taken over some of the street stuff from Gams and Colombos who were historically notorious in the area as there is definitely Italian mob associates, Or Italians in general at these places at times. I've been around these places in passing and definitely hear people speaking both Italian and albanian

Does anyone know who from the Colombo’s is still active around Avenue U area?

I would figure theres Colombos around that area as there's some Clubs/Cafes that were frequented by Colombos . I just heard a rumor/Street talk BS from an older guy who operates a big Auto parts distributorship whos an ex cop that he supposedly knows Johnny cash Azzarelli and friends of his and said Cash was made recently which I have no idea if true or not ? He also said Dominic Logozzo was also recently made and some kid Mike Pimpinella who is in his early 30s were all inducted recently , This person ex cop says he grew up with John Baudanza and said John is also making alot of moves recently and has a nice following of guys in they're 20s which he calls the Bay Pkwy juniors lol...Again don't quote me on any of this as I have no clue if it's True ?? Just your regular Gossip and street talk for whatever its worth

Lol thanks for the quick response...I follow vinny Posa’s kid on IG who is in his mid 20’s. The kid just bought Ciccio’s Pizza on Avenue U. It’s right next to Cafe Caggiano. The kid and all his buddies go by the “Avenue U boy” lol and they roll deep. I also heard that his father was recently made so I can imagine that there’s a lot activity in that area.

[Bklyn21]

And SUPPOSEDLY the reason For the Azzarelli induction if true ? Was because he was being approached by people from the Gambinos and trying to have him come on board and put on record with the Gams for protection and the weakening of the Colombos even further and was being offered a better deal and more opportunities so the Colombos proposed him and inducted him quickly to end all the encroachment etc..

[Bklyn21]

And years ago I was one of those that would argue and debate the Feds knowing or not knowing total figures and the street talk BS , But today and recently I'm on par with LE and the Feds estimates of Numbers and who's a member officially or not as we've seen numerous high level/High profile OC figures like bosses captains UB's and others spilling they're guts and naming everyone and everything under the sun , Guys like Massino , Vitale , Dileonardo and many others totally destroying what and who is doing what on the streets and with all the investigations constant surveillance and everything else I tend to side more with official reports from the DOJ feds and others and less likely to believe anyone in the street saying differently unless these pple were also High ranking members and bosses which isn't the case . Just because somebody said whatever I tend not to believe it unless it's reported and documented

[Philly d]

And SUPPOSEDLY the reason For the Azzarelli induction if true ? Was because he was being approached by people from the Gambinos and trying to have him come on board and put on record with the Gams for protection and the weakening of the Colombos even further and was being offered a better deal and more opportunities so the Colombos proposed him and inducted him quickly to end all the encroachment etc..

That's cosa nostra politics right there.

[Bklyn21]

And SUPPOSEDLY the reason For the Azzarelli induction if true ? Was because he was being approached by people from the Gambinos and trying to have him come on board and put on record with the Gams for protection and the weakening of the Colombos even further and was being offered a better deal and more opportunities so the Colombos proposed him and inducted him quickly to end all the encroachment etc..

That's cosa nostra politics right there.
Yeah , Exactly . Don't know if it's True ? Just your regular Street talk gossip lol

[Targenmantarian]

What did Megale do from Connecticut to get upped to underboss? The "Genius" nickname wasn't a compliment. If I remember it was Gotti castigating him for something.

What made him a power House in the early 00s?

[gohnjotti]

Going off topic a lil here , Over on McDonald ave. in BK Gravesend etc . There is alot of Albanian activity , Albanian Social clubs , Cafes, And businesses . I dunno if they've taken over some of the street stuff from Gams and Colombos who were historically notorious in the area as there is definitely Italian mob associates, Or Italians in general at these places at times. I've been around these places in passing and definitely hear people speaking both Italian and albanian

Does anyone know who from the Colombo’s is still active around Avenue U area?

There are multiple Colombo capos, soldiers, and associates that are active in and around Avenue U. As recently as 2015, court papers revealed that Luca DiMatteo had a social club there used for gambling. Joel Cacace’s sons, who are rising figures in the family, are also active in Avenue U, as are many members of Benjamin Castellazzo’s sprawling regime. Former(?) capo Joseph Baudanza was also active in that region.

[Pogo The Clown]

What did Megale do from Connecticut to get upped to underboss? The "Genius" nickname wasn't a compliment. If I remember it was Gotti castigating him for something.

What made him a power House in the early 00s?

I remember reading that it was a move the Gambinos made to decentralize power (Acting Boss from Jersey, Acting UnderBoss from Connecticut and Consigliere from Brooklyn) in an effort to thwart LE. Obviously it didn't work.


Pogo

[gohnjotti]

And SUPPOSEDLY the reason For the Azzarelli induction if true ? Was because he was being approached by people from the Gambinos and trying to have him come on board and put on record with the Gams for protection and the weakening of the Colombos even further and was being offered a better deal and more opportunities so the Colombos proposed him and inducted him quickly to end all the encroachment etc..

That's cosa nostra politics right there.

I have also heard that Azzarelli has recently been made but, just like you, I have no proof. The reason you stated, however, sounds suspiciously accurate. The Colombos and the Gambinos have long squabbled in Brooklyn over gambling turf and guys like Azzarelli, who pay thousands of dollars in monthly tribute to the Colombos.

I think Azzarelli might have had it better in the Colombos since court papers have described the Joker-Poker operation, and it seemed that even though Azzarelli has been paying thousands a month in tribute for decades, he gets a lot out of his Colombo connections. The Colombos are the supplier of his Joker Poker machines, and Tommy Gioeli was an especially well-loved boss by a lot of Colombo-affiliated bookies and gamblers because he was great at negotiating turf and settling gambling disputes.

A lot of guys, including outfits like the Califano organization, became disenfranchised with the Colombos after Gioeli’s arrest and Castellazzo began shaking people down a lot more, with a lot more persistence. I guess because Azzarelli was a longtime associate of Joel Cacace, he wasn’t treated as harshly by Castellazzo (who is good pals with Cacace) and decided to stay with the family.

[Targenmantarian]

What did Megale do from Connecticut to get upped to underboss? The "Genius" nickname wasn't a compliment. If I remember it was Gotti castigating him for something.

What made him a power House in the early 00s?

I remember reading that it was a move the Gambinos made to decentralize power (Acting Boss from Jersey, Acting UnderBoss from Connecticut and Consigliere from Brooklyn) in an effort to thwart LE. Obviously it didn't work.


Pogo

Crazy that a guy gets the number two slot in a 200+ man family with his main qualification being that he lives in Connecticut.

But more qualified guys probably passed due to the immense heat.

[gohnjotti]

Going off topic a lil here , Over on McDonald ave. in BK Gravesend etc . There is alot of Albanian activity , Albanian Social clubs , Cafes, And businesses . I dunno if they've taken over some of the street stuff from Gams and Colombos who were historically notorious in the area as there is definitely Italian mob associates, Or Italians in general at these places at times. I've been around these places in passing and definitely hear people speaking both Italian and albanian

Does anyone know who from the Colombo’s is still active around Avenue U area?

I would figure theres Colombos around that area as there's some Clubs/Cafes that were frequented by Colombos . I just heard a rumor/Street talk BS from an older guy who operates a big Auto parts distributorship whos an ex cop that he supposedly knows Johnny cash Azzarelli and friends of his and said Cash was made recently which I have no idea if true or not ? He also said Dominic Logozzo was also recently made and some kid Mike Pimpinella who is in his early 30s were all inducted recently , This person ex cop says he grew up with John Baudanza and said John is also making alot of moves recently and has a nice following of guys in they're 20s which he calls the Bay Pkwy juniors lol...Again don't quote me on any of this as I have no clue if it's True ?? Just your regular Gossip and street talk for whatever its worth

If Dominic Logozzo is made, that must mean that his brother-in-law/business partner (and Colombo soldier) Craig Marino is still active, at least enough to propose Logozzo for induction (unless Logozzo has another sponsor). Following his 2016 release from prison, it appeared Marino made a full time resettlement to Florida. Perhaps Logozzo is overseeing Marino's rackets for the time being. Marino had a lot going on in his heydey, and Logozzo was involved in a lot of legitimate businesses with him, including a golf club.

If John Baudanza is making a lot of moves, I wonder if it's a fully-Lucchese family gig or if there is some crossover with his 72-year-old brother Joseph Baudanza, whose status is unknown since his 2011 release from prison.

[bronx]

joe is john's uncle not brother

[Targenmantarian]

According to Gallo he hated his dad so much that he lateraled over to the Lucheses once he started dating Cutaia's daughter.

[Bklyn21]

What did Megale do from Connecticut to get upped to underboss? The "Genius" nickname wasn't a compliment. If I remember it was Gotti castigating him for something.

What made him a power House in the early 00s?

I remember reading that it was a move the Gambinos made to decentralize power (Acting Boss from Jersey, Acting UnderBoss from Connecticut and Consigliere from Brooklyn) in an effort to thwart LE. Obviously it didn't work.


Pogo

Crazy that a guy gets the number two slot in a 200+ man family with his main qualification being that he lives in Connecticut.

But more qualified guys probably passed due to the immense heat.

That whole 3 man administration had me scratching my head , Did no one want the positions ? It wasn't the traditional structure , It was like they looked far and wide