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TwoPiece wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:08 am
bert wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:03 pm Gotti's fight was a quick one that got stopped right away, with him losing but not getting knocked down or out, there was a photo him given to Capeci by his fed friends taken right after the fight, Gotti had a bit of swelling on eye I think, but that was it. Plus he looked pissed off and ready to fight, not like guy who got his ass kicked.

The Papa killing was pretty brutal, a group of Black inmates attacked him and he was giving them a fight but they had knives and he was outnumbered, Herbie Sperling supposedly paid them to do it. It was described in a book, I cannot remember which book.
i remember that pic, pretty sure this is it

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That's it two piece, good find. He doesn't look bothered at all. These guys grew up fighting and to them a few punches or even a loss is no big deal.
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roydemeo wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:06 am
bert wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:40 am Papa was an associate, and not an informer. He was also killed by Black inmates, not the Aryans.

In prison there are attacks and fights often, and when a high profile guy comes in there is always one nutcase who wants to go after them.
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While serving his life prison term, Sperling was indicted for paying fellow inmates to kill mobster and drug peddler Vincent Papa in the yard at a federal correctional facility in Atlanta in 1977, however was acquitted by a jury at trial.

Papa was informing on New York policemen who had helped him and Sperling steal back 400 pounds of heroin confiscated in the infamous 1962 French Connection bust, which took place out of the Bronx and was immortalized in the Oscar-winning eponymously-titled film starring Gene Hackman, Roy Scheider and Tony Lo Bianco a decade later. The $2,000,000 worth of heroin was ripped off from a NYPD evidence-storage locker in the months following the movie’s 1971 release to theatres.
Papa was never considered a rat buy wise guys, the cops had informed on him, and on each other, if he did talk about them it was in response to their testimony against him. Sperling was a nutcase, a dangerous one. He hated Papa and any other big name out of jealousy, Sperling got off on his rep and hated anyone who was considered as big as him by other inmates.
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CabriniGreen wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:39 pm
roydemeo wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:12 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:31 am @ roydemeo

With all those Italians, throw Pietro Licciardi in there too... I think he got stabbed in Poggioreale as well.....

Didnt Casso have some kind of fight?

Valachi killed the one guy......
I know that his brother Gennaro aka the monkey was anbushed in prison by NCO members but survived.
Valachi thinked that an inmate was a nj guy (I dont remember the name) sended by genovese and killed him but was a non related man.
Actually you are right, it WAS Gennaro who was killed in prison...
Nope. He died in a hospital of Voghera cause an infection due to an umbilical hernia.
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roydemeo wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:06 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:39 pm
roydemeo wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:12 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:31 am @ roydemeo

With all those Italians, throw Pietro Licciardi in there too... I think he got stabbed in Poggioreale as well.....

Didnt Casso have some kind of fight?

Valachi killed the one guy......
I know that his brother Gennaro aka the monkey was anbushed in prison by NCO members but survived.
Valachi thinked that an inmate was a nj guy (I dont remember the name) sended by genovese and killed him but was a non related man.
Actually you are right, it WAS Gennaro who was killed in prison...
Nope. He died in a hospital of Voghera cause an infection due to an umbilical hernia.
Lol, ok so I was right in the first place... it was Gennaro, but he didnt die, was stabbed up like 16 times I think k....
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Lol, I meant Roy was right.... my bad... about Gennaro being g stabbed and living ...
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February 1993 - Ferdinando Brodella of La Torre clan was killed by his own clan because although he knew he had AIDS, he would have had promiscuous relationships with more women falling within the orbit of the clan, transmitting or risking to transmit the disease to them and, through the latter, to the same boss .
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roydemeo wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:17 am February 1993 - Ferdinando Brodella of La Torre clan was killed by his own clan because although he knew he had AIDS, he would have had promiscuous relationships with more women falling within the orbit of the clan, transmitting or risking to transmit the disease to them and, through the latter, to the same boss .
Yes I know that was off topic but its a weird story,who know of he wanted to trasmit the Aids only to this women or made it for hit the other men of the clan.
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bert wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:13 pm
TwoPiece wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:08 am
bert wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:03 pm Gotti's fight was a quick one that got stopped right away, with him losing but not getting knocked down or out, there was a photo him given to Capeci by his fed friends taken right after the fight, Gotti had a bit of swelling on eye I think, but that was it. Plus he looked pissed off and ready to fight, not like guy who got his ass kicked.

The Papa killing was pretty brutal, a group of Black inmates attacked him and he was giving them a fight but they had knives and he was outnumbered, Herbie Sperling supposedly paid them to do it. It was described in a book, I cannot remember which book.
i remember that pic, pretty sure this is it

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That's it two piece, good find. He doesn't look bothered at all. These guys grew up fighting and to them a few punches or even a loss is no big deal.
Walter O Johnson was the eggplant that snuffed Gotti he was a bank robber who after release killed a cop in DC Ihe later ended up gettin merked in jail if I’m not mistaken wonder if it was revenge for the Gotti fight ???
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Gabagool718 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:40 pm
bert wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:13 pm
TwoPiece wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:08 am
bert wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:03 pm Gotti's fight was a quick one that got stopped right away, with him losing but not getting knocked down or out, there was a photo him given to Capeci by his fed friends taken right after the fight, Gotti had a bit of swelling on eye I think, but that was it. Plus he looked pissed off and ready to fight, not like guy who got his ass kicked.

The Papa killing was pretty brutal, a group of Black inmates attacked him and he was giving them a fight but they had knives and he was outnumbered, Herbie Sperling supposedly paid them to do it. It was described in a book, I cannot remember which book.
i remember that pic, pretty sure this is it

Image
That's it two piece, good find. He doesn't look bothered at all. These guys grew up fighting and to them a few punches or even a loss is no big deal.
Walter O Johnson was the eggplant that snuffed Gotti he was a bank robber who after release killed a cop in DC Ihe later ended up gettin merked in jail if I’m not mistaken wonder if it was revenge for the Gotti fight ???
Johnson was saved only because the guards heard the voice that Gotti paid 100K to the Aryans to whack him. Was paroled in 2001 and short after kill the cop. Now,I found a 2004 on the cop murder where is writer that Johnson was 36 y so now would be 51/52 years old but I dont round him in Amy database. Any infos on the complete name or in which facility are?
Anyway after the cop murder when was in prison was almost stabbed to death but survived and nobody know who gave the order.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 5b37aedeb/
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roydemeo wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:13 pm
Gabagool718 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:40 pm
bert wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:13 pm
TwoPiece wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:08 am
bert wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:03 pm Gotti's fight was a quick one that got stopped right away, with him losing but not getting knocked down or out, there was a photo him given to Capeci by his fed friends taken right after the fight, Gotti had a bit of swelling on eye I think, but that was it. Plus he looked pissed off and ready to fight, not like guy who got his ass kicked.

The Papa killing was pretty brutal, a group of Black inmates attacked him and he was giving them a fight but they had knives and he was outnumbered, Herbie Sperling supposedly paid them to do it. It was described in a book, I cannot remember which book.
i remember that pic, pretty sure this is it

Image
That's it two piece, good find. He doesn't look bothered at all. These guys grew up fighting and to them a few punches or even a loss is no big deal.
Walter O Johnson was the eggplant that snuffed Gotti he was a bank robber who after release killed a cop in DC Ihe later ended up gettin merked in jail if I’m not mistaken wonder if it was revenge for the Gotti fight ???
Johnson was saved only because the guards heard the voice that Gotti paid 100K to the Aryans to whack him. Was paroled in 2001 and short after kill the cop. Now,I found a 2004 on the cop murder where is writer that Johnson was 36 y so now would be 51/52 years old but I dont round him in Amy database. Any infos on the complete name or in which facility are?
Anyway after the cop murder when was in prison was almost stabbed to death but survived and nobody know who gave the order.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 5b37aedeb/
If he's still alive he's probably in PC somewhere Furio
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Bklyn21 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:31 pm
roydemeo wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:13 pm
Gabagool718 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:40 pm
bert wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:13 pm
TwoPiece wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:08 am
bert wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:03 pm Gotti's fight was a quick one that got stopped right away, with him losing but not getting knocked down or out, there was a photo him given to Capeci by his fed friends taken right after the fight, Gotti had a bit of swelling on eye I think, but that was it. Plus he looked pissed off and ready to fight, not like guy who got his ass kicked.

The Papa killing was pretty brutal, a group of Black inmates attacked him and he was giving them a fight but they had knives and he was outnumbered, Herbie Sperling supposedly paid them to do it. It was described in a book, I cannot remember which book.
i remember that pic, pretty sure this is it

Image
That's it two piece, good find. He doesn't look bothered at all. These guys grew up fighting and to them a few punches or even a loss is no big deal.
Walter O Johnson was the eggplant that snuffed Gotti he was a bank robber who after release killed a cop in DC Ihe later ended up gettin merked in jail if I’m not mistaken wonder if it was revenge for the Gotti fight ???
Johnson was saved only because the guards heard the voice that Gotti paid 100K to the Aryans to whack him. Was paroled in 2001 and short after kill the cop. Now,I found a 2004 on the cop murder where is writer that Johnson was 36 y so now would be 51/52 years old but I dont round him in Amy database. Any infos on the complete name or in which facility are?
Anyway after the cop murder when was in prison was almost stabbed to death but survived and nobody know who gave the order.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 5b37aedeb/
If he's still alive he's probably in PC somewhere Furio
What for me saved Johnson was that in 1998 an aryan Kevin Roach flipper against Mills abd the other AB shotcallers and that Gotti sr died in 2002.
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Bklyn21 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:31 pm
roydemeo wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:13 pm
Gabagool718 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:40 pm
bert wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:13 pm
TwoPiece wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:08 am
bert wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:03 pm Gotti's fight was a quick one that got stopped right away, with him losing but not getting knocked down or out, there was a photo him given to Capeci by his fed friends taken right after the fight, Gotti had a bit of swelling on eye I think, but that was it. Plus he looked pissed off and ready to fight, not like guy who got his ass kicked.

The Papa killing was pretty brutal, a group of Black inmates attacked him and he was giving them a fight but they had knives and he was outnumbered, Herbie Sperling supposedly paid them to do it. It was described in a book, I cannot remember which book.
i remember that pic, pretty sure this is it

Image
That's it two piece, good find. He doesn't look bothered at all. These guys grew up fighting and to them a few punches or even a loss is no big deal.
Walter O Johnson was the eggplant that snuffed Gotti he was a bank robber who after release killed a cop in DC Ihe later ended up gettin merked in jail if I’m not mistaken wonder if it was revenge for the Gotti fight ???
Johnson was saved only because the guards heard the voice that Gotti paid 100K to the Aryans to whack him. Was paroled in 2001 and short after kill the cop. Now,I found a 2004 on the cop murder where is writer that Johnson was 36 y so now would be 51/52 years old but I dont round him in Amy database. Any infos on the complete name or in which facility are?
Anyway after the cop murder when was in prison was almost stabbed to death but survived and nobody know who gave the order.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 5b37aedeb/
If he's still alive he's probably in PC somewhere Furio
What for me saved Johnson was that in 1998 an aryan Kevin Roach flipped against Mills and the other AB shotcallers and that Gotti sr died in 2002.
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Joey O Kane stabbed to death at USP Canaan
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roydemeo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:23 am
Bklyn21 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:31 pm
roydemeo wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:13 pm
Gabagool718 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:40 pm
bert wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:13 pm
TwoPiece wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:08 am
bert wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:03 pm Gotti's fight was a quick one that got stopped right away, with him losing but not getting knocked down or out, there was a photo him given to Capeci by his fed friends taken right after the fight, Gotti had a bit of swelling on eye I think, but that was it. Plus he looked pissed off and ready to fight, not like guy who got his ass kicked.

The Papa killing was pretty brutal, a group of Black inmates attacked him and he was giving them a fight but they had knives and he was outnumbered, Herbie Sperling supposedly paid them to do it. It was described in a book, I cannot remember which book.
i remember that pic, pretty sure this is it

Image
That's it two piece, good find. He doesn't look bothered at all. These guys grew up fighting and to them a few punches or even a loss is no big deal.
Walter O Johnson was the eggplant that snuffed Gotti he was a bank robber who after release killed a cop in DC Ihe later ended up gettin merked in jail if I’m not mistaken wonder if it was revenge for the Gotti fight ???
Johnson was saved only because the guards heard the voice that Gotti paid 100K to the Aryans to whack him. Was paroled in 2001 and short after kill the cop. Now,I found a 2004 on the cop murder where is writer that Johnson was 36 y so now would be 51/52 years old but I dont round him in Amy database. Any infos on the complete name or in which facility are?
Anyway after the cop murder when was in prison was almost stabbed to death but survived and nobody know who gave the order.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... 5b37aedeb/
If he's still alive he's probably in PC somewhere Furio
What for me saved Johnson was that in 1998 an aryan Kevin Roach flipped against Mills and the other AB shotcallers and that Gotti sr died in 2002.
I get that but is Johnson still alive ? Some were saying he's dead , Someone else said he survived the stabbing . If he did survive I wonder where he is ? He might of been set up to be killed by cops since he did go back to prison for killing a cop . He's probably cell mates with Casso lol
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Joe m wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:28 am Joey O Kane stabbed to death at USP Canaan
That one was bizarre in the timing , He testifies for Gotti Jr. And he's dead not long after ? It made me wonder if it was really a true beef or possibly the feds contracted out that stabbing/Killing ?
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