eboli wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:56 pm
Franzese is an unreliable narrator these days. He's hustling more now than when he was still in the mob.
Do you think he’s faking the whole “born again Christian” thing he’s got going? He’s seemed much less sincere about it the last few interviews I’ve seen. I know the speaking gigs he gets probably keep the bills paid.
He definitely realized how easy is to scam very religious people and mob fans at the same time. I don't know if he's faking his faith. I know that for the last few years he's on the road constantly like he's doing stand-up comedy. The gas racket money in the box Big Vinnie was carrying increases with each interview.
eboli wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:56 pm
Franzese is an unreliable narrator these days. He's hustling more now than when he was still in the mob.
Do you think he’s faking the whole “born again Christian” thing he’s got going? He’s seemed much less sincere about it the last few interviews I’ve seen. I know the speaking gigs he gets probably keep the bills paid.
He definitely realized how easy is to scam very religious people and mob fans at the same time. I don't know if he's faking his faith. I know that for the last few years he's on the road constantly like he's doing stand-up comedy. The gas racket money in the box Big Vinnie was carrying increases with each interview.
He Just changed When he was made also , He says now he was made in the late 50's not Halloween 75 . He was the youngest guy ever made , before his 10th Bday ! Halloween 75 is when they almost decided to Install him as Acting Street boss . Instead he was made acting Consigliere
He lies more and more, but there are others lying too. When I saw him say a while back that he fixed fights for Vito Antuofermo, who never had an easy fight in his career, I knew he was outright lying, not exaggerating or mistaken, but outright lying. If he is religious, it's a religion that encourages lies as a way to get to Heaven. If that's the case, he's that religions next saint.
Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:58 am
Michael Franzese just did an interview and he was pushing back on the accuracy of the portrayal of Chin Gigante in the Netflix series “Godfather of Harlem”. I haven’t seen the show but apparently it makes it seem like Chin was in the drug business with Bumpy Johnson. Franzese said that was completely false and that it was more than likely the Bonannos that worked with Bumpy.
But then he started talking about his own relationship wth Chin. He didn’t know him personally at first but he was good friends with Fritzy Giovanelli. Franzese told Fritzy that he was having some problems with Junior and the gas business. Then a few days later Fritzy called him and said Chin wanted to meet him. Franzese said he went over to Houston St in Greenwich Village and had a walk and talk with Chin, who was in his bathrobe, unshaven with messy hair. He said it was well known that Chin did not like Junior at the time, and when they were talking Chin offered to bring him over to the Genovese Family. Franzese said although it was pretty rare for guys to switch families, that Chin was the most powerful boss in the country at the time and no one was going to really tell Chin he couldn’t do something.
I usually take a lot of what Franzese says with a grain of salt, but I dunno about this one.
All I know is the show is great ! I do know that Chin and Vito Genovese were big into the Dope business . I don't know about Bumpy and the Chin ? In the Series they hate each other and they're both at war with one another
Its all bullshit. The show I mean. I seen the show. I seen it. episodes 1 - 2 & 3. They got Paul cicero portraying a character named "Costello." If that's supposed to be the boss a all bosses prime minister then the show writers are really kooky. I seen footage a John Fitzgerald Kennedy. The real chin giganti was in the can when the irish took over the white house. I don't think chin ever stepped foot in harlem as a made guy. Real funny that they got him as a cariocature of fat tony and based on pleasant avenue. It should be Hollywood a lister John Malkovich portraying "benny squint" on the small screen. Not chin donofrio playing giganti. The kid playing adam clayton powell is a dead ringer for adam clayton powell. Great choice there. The rest is some fantastical landscape. Bumpy had zero to do with anything below 125 st. Lower harlem was the spanish with the sons a italy on the east side. North harlem was the blacks, virgin island people, cubans on the west side. Big dick buster was a real life hitter who worked for fat tony and enforced the 2 block rule. On the show hes in bumpy's crew. They got some skeefuza playing a mudshark that's supposed to be the daughter of the chin. Whats that about???
JIGGS
I know the show is all wrong .Yeah , Costello mentoring Gigante throughout ? Lol.. Amd most of the other shit never happened but as far as action and drama I love it ! I wouldn't watch it at first , I binged watched it all in 2 or 3 days and I was the same way , I wouldn't watch it because the whole thing was all wrong and BS but hey I got the flu and got really sick and watched every episode. I still lmao at alot of shit in the show and SMH bit plotwise, Drama, Action it did the job
At the place I live a lady that works here (jazmin) put it on for me. I only seen 3 episodes. But thats enough for me. It aint the harlem I remember I tell ya that much. The ONLY thing that resonates with me is the kid playing adam clayton powell. Kids got em down to a t. REAL poverty pimper that rev. powell. if you think sharpton is bad powell and that cock sucker father divine made rev. al look like pope john paul. Real greaseballs ya know? real slimey. They took more money out a harlem than any jew. And they loved the fucks. The whole mudshark angle. Chin running harlem. Costello still being a political fixer in 63. I know its supposed to be just entertainment. I just cant get into it. This show for me is like they having a show where general patton is the captain of the star trek. And has ray beams coming out a his eyes. Thats what I see. Bunch a queers writing this show.
JIGGS
The younger generation will now think Bumpy was al Capone.Trust me this show has made the mob look like a joke and the blacks to be these real savvy intelligent hardcore gangsters.A few more shows like this and guys like Luciano.Albert Anastasia mutrder inc will be completely forgotten because this type of shit here will make them more money
Rat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:50 pm
I don't know what you're talking about I'm in the younger generation (20), I don't know anyone who thinks Bumpy Johnson was bigger than Al Capone
Im pretty sure he was figuratively speaking...
Regardless he actually said Luciano and Anastasia with murder inc.
And to back him up... He is right. I deal w less educated ppl (who love to talk gangsters) but they get all there info from movies and passed down bs.
For example the hood loves Frank Lucas bc of the movie. And wanna believe that they surpassed the mafia.
But it's actually more a culture thing.... They need to be able to say they did it better n blah blah blah. That's why Hollywood loves to do the non Italian stories for all those groups to be like "see we weren't Italian but we were some tough (irish/Jews/whatever). Just like boardwalk empire. I read the book boardwalk empire in JAIL and I HATED it.... In jail!!! That's pretty bad...
But yes rn bumpy is King. Finally they found a black kingpin, or whatever, that didn't snitch.
