Chin and Franzese

[Amershire_Ed]

Michael Franzese just did an interview and he was pushing back on the accuracy of the portrayal of Chin Gigante in the Netflix series “Godfather of Harlem”. I haven’t seen the show but apparently it makes it seem like Chin was in the drug business with Bumpy Johnson. Franzese said that was completely false and that it was more than likely the Bonannos that worked with Bumpy.

But then he started talking about his own relationship wth Chin. He didn’t know him personally at first but he was good friends with Fritzy Giovanelli. Franzese told Fritzy that he was having some problems with Junior and the gas business. Then a few days later Fritzy called him and said Chin wanted to meet him. Franzese said he went over to Houston St in Greenwich Village and had a walk and talk with Chin, who was in his bathrobe, unshaven with messy hair. He said it was well known that Chin did not like Junior at the time, and when they were talking Chin offered to bring him over to the Genovese Family. Franzese said although it was pretty rare for guys to switch families, that Chin was the most powerful boss in the country at the time and no one was going to really tell Chin he couldn’t do something.

I usually take a lot of what Franzese says with a grain of salt, but I dunno about this one.

https://youtu.be/8Nsjn_TKXBY

[TommyGambino]

More bullshit

[JMAN723]

Franzese makes up so much stuff even his induction date. He claims it was Halloween 75 but the truth is that it was most likely Halloween 77 or maybe 78. His capo was Andrew Russo who I think was only made in early 76(gotta check on that) but yeah I agree with TommyGambino who said it best in the post above

[Extortion]

How do you know what he is saying is false?

[Super]

any one no any other debates over soldiers fighting over associates getting made in different family's e.g Mike said paddy mac Genovese capo put in a
claim for him. casso said every family wanted him.

[Amershire_Ed]

How do you know what he is saying is false?

Franzese has said some stuff before that’s not entirely accurate.

The only reason I’m kinda willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here is the way he answered the question in the interview. He didn’t come out and volunteer the information. The guy asked him about Chin Gigante’s portrayal is the show, and Franzese said it wasn’t all that accurate. Then the guy asked him if he knew Chin, and that’s when he told the story. I don’t think he was necessarily looking to make headlines with his answer. It was just kinda the flow of the conversation.

Plus, regardless of what people think of Franzese now, he was a big time earner back then. I don’t know if it’s outside the realm of possibility that Chin knew that, and wanted him on board. Sticking it to Junior woulda been an added bonus.

[newera_212]

I wonder problems could Franzese be having with Junior? From the way he explained it in other interviews he was kicking up a shitload of money and Persico gave him and his core guys a lot of lattitude, and made sure he (i.e. his scheme) was being protected. Franzese made it sound like there was so much money that it would have been impossible to turn in an "insulting" envelope to his higher ups

Speaking of insulting, its a shame they even had Chin on that Bumpy Johnson show at all. Salerno and some of the 116th oldtimers would have made more sense. Gigante was locked up during Bumpy Johnson's "time" wasn't he?

[Amershire_Ed]

I wonder problems could Franzese be having with Junior? From the way he explained it in other interviews he was kicking up a shitload of money and Persico gave him and his core guys a lot of lattitude, and made sure he (i.e. his scheme) was being protected. Franzese made it sound like there was so much money that it would have been impossible to turn in an "insulting" envelope to his higher ups

Speaking of insulting, its a shame they even had Chin on that Bumpy Johnson show at all. Salerno and some of the 116th oldtimers would have made more sense. Gigante was locked up during Bumpy Johnson's "time" wasn't he?

He’s said before that Persico thought he wasn’t kicking up an amount that was commensurate with what he was actually pulling in.

[Bklyn21]

Michael Franzese just did an interview and he was pushing back on the accuracy of the portrayal of Chin Gigante in the Netflix series “Godfather of Harlem”. I haven’t seen the show but apparently it makes it seem like Chin was in the drug business with Bumpy Johnson. Franzese said that was completely false and that it was more than likely the Bonannos that worked with Bumpy.

But then he started talking about his own relationship wth Chin. He didn’t know him personally at first but he was good friends with Fritzy Giovanelli. Franzese told Fritzy that he was having some problems with Junior and the gas business. Then a few days later Fritzy called him and said Chin wanted to meet him. Franzese said he went over to Houston St in Greenwich Village and had a walk and talk with Chin, who was in his bathrobe, unshaven with messy hair. He said it was well known that Chin did not like Junior at the time, and when they were talking Chin offered to bring him over to the Genovese Family. Franzese said although it was pretty rare for guys to switch families, that Chin was the most powerful boss in the country at the time and no one was going to really tell Chin he couldn’t do something.

I usually take a lot of what Franzese says with a grain of salt, but I dunno about this one.

https://youtu.be/8Nsjn_TKXBY

All I know is the show is great ! I do know that Chin and Vito Genovese were big into the Dope business . I don't know about Bumpy and the Chin ? In the Series they hate each other and they're both at war with one another

[Bklyn21]

Michael Franzese just did an interview and he was pushing back on the accuracy of the portrayal of Chin Gigante in the Netflix series “Godfather of Harlem”. I haven’t seen the show but apparently it makes it seem like Chin was in the drug business with Bumpy Johnson. Franzese said that was completely false and that it was more than likely the Bonannos that worked with Bumpy.

But then he started talking about his own relationship wth Chin. He didn’t know him personally at first but he was good friends with Fritzy Giovanelli. Franzese told Fritzy that he was having some problems with Junior and the gas business. Then a few days later Fritzy called him and said Chin wanted to meet him. Franzese said he went over to Houston St in Greenwich Village and had a walk and talk with Chin, who was in his bathrobe, unshaven with messy hair. He said it was well known that Chin did not like Junior at the time, and when they were talking Chin offered to bring him over to the Genovese Family. Franzese said although it was pretty rare for guys to switch families, that Chin was the most powerful boss in the country at the time and no one was going to really tell Chin he couldn’t do something.

I usually take a lot of what Franzese says with a grain of salt, but I dunno about this one.

https://youtu.be/8Nsjn_TKXBY

You ever log onto Franzese's web site ? Holy christ, The guy is a self deprecating all powerful overlord of sorts according to his web page , He constantly refers to himself as a BOSS and a very powerful one at that who was the only one who Mind fucked and beat the feds, The only one ever to just walk away without ratting , Making more money than anyone ever in Mob history, Making more than almost the whole Mob etc etc... Total BS artist !! He reminds me of the great and powerful OZ , The all powerful one behind the curtain ...lol BS GTFOH...

[JIGGS]

Michael Franzese just did an interview and he was pushing back on the accuracy of the portrayal of Chin Gigante in the Netflix series “Godfather of Harlem”. I haven’t seen the show but apparently it makes it seem like Chin was in the drug business with Bumpy Johnson. Franzese said that was completely false and that it was more than likely the Bonannos that worked with Bumpy.

But then he started talking about his own relationship wth Chin. He didn’t know him personally at first but he was good friends with Fritzy Giovanelli. Franzese told Fritzy that he was having some problems with Junior and the gas business. Then a few days later Fritzy called him and said Chin wanted to meet him. Franzese said he went over to Houston St in Greenwich Village and had a walk and talk with Chin, who was in his bathrobe, unshaven with messy hair. He said it was well known that Chin did not like Junior at the time, and when they were talking Chin offered to bring him over to the Genovese Family. Franzese said although it was pretty rare for guys to switch families, that Chin was the most powerful boss in the country at the time and no one was going to really tell Chin he couldn’t do something.

I usually take a lot of what Franzese says with a grain of salt, but I dunno about this one.

https://youtu.be/8Nsjn_TKXBY

All I know is the show is great ! I do know that Chin and Vito Genovese were big into the Dope business . I don't know about Bumpy and the Chin ? In the Series they hate each other and they're both at war with one another

Its all bullshit. The show I mean. I seen the show. I seen it. episodes 1 - 2 & 3. They got Paul cicero portraying a character named "Costello." If that's supposed to be the boss a all bosses prime minister then the show writers are really kooky. I seen footage a John Fitzgerald Kennedy. The real chin giganti was in the can when the irish took over the white house. I don't think chin ever stepped foot in harlem as a made guy. Real funny that they got him as a cariocature of fat tony and based on pleasant avenue. It should be Hollywood a lister John Malkovich portraying "benny squint" on the small screen. Not chin donofrio playing giganti. The kid playing adam clayton powell is a dead ringer for adam clayton powell. Great choice there. The rest is some fantastical landscape. Bumpy had zero to do with anything below 125 st. Lower harlem was the spanish with the sons a italy on the east side. North harlem was the blacks, virgin island people, cubans on the west side. Big dick buster was a real life hitter who worked for fat tony and enforced the 2 block rule. On the show hes in bumpy's crew. They got some skeefuza playing a mudshark that's supposed to be the daughter of the chin. Whats that about???

JIGGS

[bert]

It's all wrong on Gigante, and the "war" between Italians and Blacks in that time period. If they had any dealings at all, they were minor. The shows writers do interviews saying it's all true.

[bert]

This woman does a bunch of youtube interviews on the show, in this one, at the .28 second mark, she calls Gigante "Small minded"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBYaqan8-44

[bert]

These 2 shambles individuals put the show together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZZk_Q8R8mM

[Bklyn21]

Michael Franzese just did an interview and he was pushing back on the accuracy of the portrayal of Chin Gigante in the Netflix series “Godfather of Harlem”. I haven’t seen the show but apparently it makes it seem like Chin was in the drug business with Bumpy Johnson. Franzese said that was completely false and that it was more than likely the Bonannos that worked with Bumpy.

But then he started talking about his own relationship wth Chin. He didn’t know him personally at first but he was good friends with Fritzy Giovanelli. Franzese told Fritzy that he was having some problems with Junior and the gas business. Then a few days later Fritzy called him and said Chin wanted to meet him. Franzese said he went over to Houston St in Greenwich Village and had a walk and talk with Chin, who was in his bathrobe, unshaven with messy hair. He said it was well known that Chin did not like Junior at the time, and when they were talking Chin offered to bring him over to the Genovese Family. Franzese said although it was pretty rare for guys to switch families, that Chin was the most powerful boss in the country at the time and no one was going to really tell Chin he couldn’t do something.

I usually take a lot of what Franzese says with a grain of salt, but I dunno about this one.

https://youtu.be/8Nsjn_TKXBY

All I know is the show is great ! I do know that Chin and Vito Genovese were big into the Dope business . I don't know about Bumpy and the Chin ? In the Series they hate each other and they're both at war with one another

Its all bullshit. The show I mean. I seen the show. I seen it. episodes 1 - 2 & 3. They got Paul cicero portraying a character named "Costello." If that's supposed to be the boss a all bosses prime minister then the show writers are really kooky. I seen footage a John Fitzgerald Kennedy. The real chin giganti was in the can when the irish took over the white house. I don't think chin ever stepped foot in harlem as a made guy. Real funny that they got him as a cariocature of fat tony and based on pleasant avenue. It should be Hollywood a lister John Malkovich portraying "benny squint" on the small screen. Not chin donofrio playing giganti. The kid playing adam clayton powell is a dead ringer for adam clayton powell. Great choice there. The rest is some fantastical landscape. Bumpy had zero to do with anything below 125 st. Lower harlem was the spanish with the sons a italy on the east side. North harlem was the blacks, virgin island people, cubans on the west side. Big dick buster was a real life hitter who worked for fat tony and enforced the 2 block rule. On the show hes in bumpy's crew. They got some skeefuza playing a mudshark that's supposed to be the daughter of the chin. Whats that about???

JIGGS

I know the show is all wrong .Yeah , Costello mentoring Gigante throughout ? Lol.. Amd most of the other shit never happened but as far as action and drama I love it ! I wouldn't watch it at first , I binged watched it all in 2 or 3 days and I was the same way , I wouldn't watch it because the whole thing was all wrong and BS but hey I got the flu and got really sick and watched every episode. I still lmao at alot of shit in the show and SMH bit plotwise, Drama, Action it did the job