Buffalo/Ontario Mob Acitivity

[Wiseguy]

The cartels hold the real power now in Columbia/Bolivia/Peru and that’s the worlds only source of coke.

Which cartels are you referring to?

[Moscone65]

The cartels hold the real power now in Columbia/Bolivia/Peru and that’s the worlds only source of coke.

Which cartels are you referring to?

The Mexican cartels hold power of the local South American ones because the Mexicans have more manpower, and are in charge of distribution to other groups. Local South American cartels still produce the coke and make money but are essentially under the thumbs of the bigger Mexican cartels

[Moscone65]

Not sure exactly which cartels/people I’m not too informed about cartels, but ik they are Mexican

[CabriniGreen]

It's even more complicated, as the Wolfpack have had THEIR OWN internal discord too....

We wont even touch the Mexicans wacking all the independent importers and replacing them with their own guys......

Not to mention the internal wars within the Ndrangheta going on in Toronto... they’re not one group but several groups, all trying to take control

The revelation for me came in that Gangsters Inc article, when they said that Verducci, the ndrines of Ursino and Coluccio, Bruzzese, are NOT actually part of the Siderno group. Or as they put it, not dependent on the Mother locale of Siderno, but dependent on the near Mother locale of Gioiosa Iconica, and Marina di Gioiosa Iconica. I hope I spelled those right, lol.

How the arrest of The Master Commisso in Calabria, followed by the arrest of several lieutenants left a power vaccuum in the Mother locale, which the Canadian Figliomenis have taken advantage of. Apparently, also a Figliomeni women married to a Commisso had an affair with a member of the Crupi clan, which damaged the prestige of Commisso.

So far, I count it as the Commisso- Macri- Crupi- Figliomeni- Rumbo- Galea- Muia clan. They have had conflict, and this is within the SAME locale.

It's crazy up there... super interesting though....

Read that article doesnt make sense because all the calabrese in ontario are on the camera di controllo which answer to the mother locale in siderno giuseppe ursino said on wiretaps that verduci was on the camera di controllo

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It's kind of a tough read, great info though...

You might like this one better...


https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations ... aine-trail.

[BobbyBacala]

Does anyone know if diego serrano or saverio Serrano are apart of the Sicilian clans or calabrian?

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[Moscone65]

They are calabrese

[Wiseguy]

The cartels hold the real power now in Columbia/Bolivia/Peru and that’s the worlds only source of coke.

Which cartels are you referring to?

The Mexican cartels hold power of the local South American ones because the Mexicans have more manpower, and are in charge of distribution to other groups. Local South American cartels still produce the coke and make money but are essentially under the thumbs of the bigger Mexican cartels

2018 DEA National Drug Threat Assessment -

Colombian TCOs rely on a working partnership with Mexican TCOs to export cocaine from Colombia to U.S. markets. Mexican TCOs have taken over the role of principal exporters of wholesale cocaine into U.S. markets. According to DEA’s CSP, the majority of the cocaine seized and tested in the United States is of Colombian origin. While Mexican TCOs dominate the wholesale distribution of Colombian cocaine in the United States, Colombian TCOs continue to control its production and supply.


In short, it's a partnership where both sides need each other. Without the Mexicans, there is no distribution. Without the Colombians, there is no cocaine to distribute.

[Moscone65]

The cartels hold the real power now in Columbia/Bolivia/Peru and that’s the worlds only source of coke.

Which cartels are you referring to?

The Mexican cartels hold power of the local South American ones because the Mexicans have more manpower, and are in charge of distribution to other groups. Local South American cartels still produce the coke and make money but are essentially under the thumbs of the bigger Mexican cartels

2018 DEA National Drug Threat Assessment -

Colombian TCOs rely on a working partnership with Mexican TCOs to export cocaine from Colombia to U.S. markets. Mexican TCOs have taken over the role of principal exporters of wholesale cocaine into U.S. markets. According to DEA’s CSP, the majority of the cocaine seized and tested in the United States is of Colombian origin. While Mexican TCOs dominate the wholesale distribution of Colombian cocaine in the United States, Colombian TCOs continue to control its production and supply.


In short, it's a partnership where both sides need each other. Without the Mexicans, there is no distribution. Without the Colombians, there is no cocaine to distribute.

Yes exactly. The columbians are still relevant to an extent but not like they were though.

[Moscone65]

Before they distributed as well

[stubbs]

Moscone is right, the Colombians used to be big time wholesalers back in the Cocaine Cowboys era. But as the US agencies shut down a lot of the sea routes used by the Colombians and they switched to using the Mexicans for shipping across the land ports of entry.

Now many of the largest Colombian groups have lost power and they only are involved in making the cocaine. The Mexicans control all of the distribution, as least to the US.

The stories that came out from the Chapo trial were wild, stuff like how he could move everything so quickly into the us in a matter of days, as opposed to weeks. And that’s why he became a legend and so powerful, he was a master of logistics and building tunnels under the border, etc.

And this is just cocaine, not even counting the synthetics from China, Mexican home cooked meth, etc.

What’s interesting is there’s been several stories of Canadians down in Mexico to do business. Now if the Mexicans are setting up shop in Canada, the Canadians don’t even have to leave home to do a deal with the cartels... the cartels are bringing it right to them.

[Wiseguy]

Moscone is right, the Colombians used to be big time wholesalers back in the Cocaine Cowboys era. But as the US agencies shut down a lot of the sea routes used by the Colombians and they switched to using the Mexicans for shipping across the land ports of entry.

Now many of the largest Colombian groups have lost power and they only are involved in making the cocaine. The Mexicans control all of the distribution, as least to the US.

The stories that came out from the Chapo trial were wild, stuff like how he could move everything so quickly into the us in a matter of days, as opposed to weeks. And that’s why he became a legend and so powerful, he was a master of logistics and building tunnels under the border, etc.

And this is just cocaine, not even counting the synthetics from China, Mexican home cooked meth, etc.

What’s interesting is there’s been several stories of Canadians down in Mexico to do business. Now if the Mexicans are setting up shop in Canada, the Canadians don’t even have to leave home to do a deal with the cartels... the cartels are bringing it right to them.

It was partly a strategic move on the part of the Colombians. They supply the cocaine and let the Mexicans take the risk of transportation and distribution.

The Mexicans are the primary wholesalers in virtually every area of the U.S. Though, as recently as the 2018 DEA National Drug Threat Assessment, the Colombians were still the primary source of cocaine to New York City, as well as prominent transporters and distributors of wholesale quantities of heroin. However, Mexican and Dominican traffickers dominated the transportation of cocaine and other drugs throughout the rest of New York State.

I'm still waiting to see the 2019 report which is due out soon.

[CabriniGreen]

Moscone is right, the Colombians used to be big time wholesalers back in the Cocaine Cowboys era. But as the US agencies shut down a lot of the sea routes used by the Colombians and they switched to using the Mexicans for shipping across the land ports of entry.

Now many of the largest Colombian groups have lost power and they only are involved in making the cocaine. The Mexicans control all of the distribution, as least to the US.

The stories that came out from the Chapo trial were wild, stuff like how he could move everything so quickly into the us in a matter of days, as opposed to weeks. And that’s why he became a legend and so powerful, he was a master of logistics and building tunnels under the border, etc.

And this is just cocaine, not even counting the synthetics from China, Mexican home cooked meth, etc.

What’s interesting is there’s been several stories of Canadians down in Mexico to do business. Now if the Mexicans are setting up shop in Canada, the Canadians don’t even have to leave home to do a deal with the cartels... the cartels are bringing it right to them.

It was partly a strategic move on the part of the Colombians. They supply the cocaine and let the Mexicans take the risk of transportation and distribution.

The Mexicans are the primary wholesalers in virtually every area of the U.S. Though, as recently as the 2018 DEA National Drug Threat Assessment, the Colombians were still the primary source of cocaine to New York City, as well as prominent transporters and distributors of wholesale quantities of heroin. However, Mexican and Dominican traffickers dominated the transportation of cocaine and other drugs throughout the rest of New York State.

I'm still waiting to see the 2019 report which is due out soon.

Curiosity... does the report usually cover Canada too?

Or just the states?

[Wiseguy]

Curiosity... does the report usually cover Canada too?

Or just the states?

Just the U.S.

[CabriniGreen]

Question for everyone interested....


Musitanos, Violis...

Who gets thier action now?

[Moscone65]

What happened with musitano, thats the question? Im assuming hes laying real low, almost hiding, because not even my pals who know friends of his have heard anything.