In Hoffa's Shadow author takes apart "Irishman" myth

[Ivan]

Phillip Moscato Jr. claims that his old man made a deathbed confession and told him where the body is. Supposedly, he is talks with the FBI:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/eric-sh ... ied-killed

Also just looked it up Andretta died Jan 25 2019.

His brother, allegedly also part of the cleanup crew, is still alive.

Nevermind, Stephen Andretta apparently died of cancer in 2000.

[Sam22]

I thought Scott was working on a book with Tony Zerelli? He was the Detroit under boss I would think he would know.

[Snakes]

I thought Scott was working on a book with Tony Zerelli? He was the Detroit under boss I would think he would know.

He's been dead a few years; maybe Scott abandoned the book after that.

[Adam]

It'd be great if it turned out Hoffa killed himself.

"Investigators have finally discovered Jimmy Hoffa's... suicide note"

You joke about that, but Vincent Piersante for years pushed the idea that Hoffa went to the meeting and had a heart attack and died, and the people there had to rush to get rid of his body because they thought no one would believe he just died. Now I never believed that, but Piersante did for some reason. And he did go after the Detroit mob for decades.

[dack2001]

Just saw the Irishman yesterday in theaters. Great movie. It's somewhat frustrating knowing that Sheeran is inflating his biography to give his life some weight but the story of Hoffa and labor and the mob is well done. Its rare to sit in a 3 and half hour movie and not feel bored at some point. The movie is really about the decisions we each make in life and how those decisions all lead us to the same place. Some surrounded by loved ones, others lonely and alone, all because of the actions taken during life. I was unusually moved at the end of the movie. I will be watching it again on Netflix. It will likely be the last time you ever get to see a movie like this in the theaters again. Pesci is especially great and Al Pacino is also. De Niro is always good when he gives a shit, which he does here.

[Frank]

I thought Scott was working on a book with Tony Zerelli? He was the Detroit under boss I would think he would know.

I believe Tony Zerelli was in prison at the time. His info about where the body was turned up wrong. He also made statements at the time that if he was not in prison Hoffa wouldn't have been killed. This was in about 2012.

[Pete]

https://www.moldea.com/Hoffa-40.html

This is the most well researched and most likely real story of what happened to Hoffa

[Frank]

https://www.moldea.com/Hoffa-40.html

This is the most well researched and most likely real story of what happened to Hoffa

Now Brother Moscato's son says that his dad told him some of the details before he died.

[Rocco]

Moscato's is probably the most credible if you guy by what the FBI says. And also makes sense. Tony Pro was the number 1 suspect in Hoffa's death. When Hoffa was killed everyone with Teamster knew that Tony Pro had him killed. Sally Bugs has been the prime suspect according to the FBI for decades. I am not sure this guy knows about that body. But I have always believed that Tony Pro's crew killed Hoffa while Tony Pro was at his FL home.

[Pete]

https://www.moldea.com/Hoffa-40.html

This is the most well researched and most likely real story of what happened to Hoffa

Now Brother Moscato's son says that his dad told him some of the details before he died.

Brother Moscato also told Moldea shortly before he died that Hoffa was originally buried on his site, that him and sally bugs did it. Then when Picardo flipped they knew they had to move it and he never told Moldea where of course. I know it’s not sexy because everyone wants some new suspect or something but the facts of the case who did it and who was involved has been understood for many years

[Pete]

Moscato's is probably the most credible if you guy by what the FBI says. And also makes sense. Tony Pro was the number 1 suspect in Hoffa's death. When Hoffa was killed everyone with Teamster knew that Tony Pro had him killed. Sally Bugs has been the prime suspect according to the FBI for decades. I am not sure this guy knows about that body. But I have always believed that Tony Pro's crew killed Hoffa while Tony Pro was at his FL home.

Moldea says brother moscato and sally bugs buried him originally

[Pete]

I originally thought it made no sense to transport him that far but when you think of that time frame as far as the 70’s the body was buried in jersey before anyone could officially say he was missing and most people would be looking for the body around Detroit

[dack2001]

I have always had trouble putting much stock in Moldea, especially since he published his RFK book and tossed in that "confession" at the end and his Thane Caesar gatekeeping became public. Anyone who hangs with Gus Russo and lectures people about publishing the truth, even Bob DeNiro, is suspect in my book too.

All that said, Moscato's version is not impossible but I am deeply skeptical that Detroit would allow Tony Pro's crew to come in and do that high-profile of a hit and then ship the body back east. Or that Tony Pro would send his guys to Detroit to kill a high profile guy like Hoffa. Wasn't Hoffa "on record" with Detroit? It makes more sense given the politics of Cosa Nostra that Detroit got the contract because Hoffa was "with" Detroit and Tony Jack. They did the deed and burned him up or buried him as has always been suspected. I won't rule out that they got Big Frank Sheeranthough Russell Bufalino or somebody else to put Hoffa at ease but I'd bet they were the shooters and they disposed of him.

[Pete]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnew ... moldea.amp

[TommyNoto]

I have always had trouble putting much stock in Moldea, especially since he published his RFK book and tossed in that "confession" at the end and his Thane Caesar gatekeeping became public. Anyone who hangs with Gus Russo and lectures people about publishing the truth, even Bob DeNiro, is suspect in my book too.

All that said, Moscato's version is not impossible but I am deeply skeptical that Detroit would allow Tony Pro's crew to come in and do that high-profile of a hit and then ship the body back east. Or that Tony Pro would send his guys to Detroit to kill a high profile guy like Hoffa. Wasn't Hoffa "on record" with Detroit? It makes more sense given the politics of Cosa Nostra that Detroit got the contract because Hoffa was "with" Detroit and Tony Jack. They did the deed and burned him up or buried him as has always been suspected. I won't rule out that they got Big Frank Sheeranthough Russell Bufalino or somebody else to put Hoffa at ease but I'd bet they were the shooters and they disposed of him.

Moldea is very credible IMO and although there were possibly more than 1 shooter Caesar was almost certainly involved in RFK assassination . Dave Morales ( notorious CIA wet work specialist ) also confessed to killing RFK and JFK.

To me Sally , Moscato is very likely what happened. I’m from Hudson county NJ and lived in JC, know that dump and to think I likely stepped over Hoffa dead body lol , while smoking a J