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New book claims FBI knows Jimmy Hoffa's killer, but is keeping it secret

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Hint, it's not the Irishman.

New book claims FBI knows Jimmy Hoffa's killer, but is keeping it secret
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A new book penned by Jack Goldsmith, a Harvard law professor and the former U.S. assistant attorney general, claims the FBI knows who killed legendary labor leader Jimmy Hoffa, but it won't admit that it blamed the wrong man.

In his new book, "In Hoffa’s Shadow," Goldsmith lays out his case for why he believes federal investigators allowed Chuckie O’Brien, the labor boss's protege, to be known as the key suspect in Hoffa’s mysterious disappearance in 1975, despite evidence proving otherwise.

(MORE: Police search for Jimmy Hoffa's body in Michigan driveway)

Hoffa served as the president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters labor union until 1971, making him a hero to many blue-collar Americans. He also had powerful enemies and ties to organized crime.

Goldsmith is also O'Brien's stepson.

PHOTO: Charles 'Chuckie' O'Brien, left, appeared before a federal grand jury investigating the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa in 1975. (Bettmann Archive via Getty Images, FILE)
The conventional wisdom was that O’Brien picked up Hoffa from the parking lot of the Machus Red Fox restaurant in Michigan on July 30, 1975, and drove him to his death, Goldsmith told Detroit ABC affiliate WXYZ in an interview Monday, a day before the book's release.

"There were good reasons for the FBI to suspect [O’Brien]. He had recently had a break with Hoffa, he was in the vicinity of the Machus Red Fox the morning of the disappearance, and the afternoon of the disappearance," Goldsmith told WXYZ.

PHOTO: James R. Hoffa attends a Teamster's Union convention, circa October 1957. (The LIFE Picture Collection via Getty Images, FILE)
"The last known time, when Hoffa was thought to be alive, did not leave enough time given the other things we know about Chuckie's whereabouts," he added, citing unnamed agents who worked on the case.

Goldsmith said federal agents assigned to the case know who the real killer is, but won't reveal the person's name due to embarrassment over accusing the wrong man.

(MORE: Jimmy Hoffa search: Tipster's story 'doesn't make sense,' author says)

"They just didn’t want to take the political heat, admitting they had basically accused the wrong person -- or let linger the accusations against Chuckie for 40 years," Goldsmith said.

The author did hint at who he has been told the real killer is, saying, "That person I learned was a low-level member of the Detroit family in the 1970s who rose to prominence and is no longer alive. Beyond that I’m not going to say anything else."

PHOTO: Machus Red Fox restaurant in Bloomfield Township, Mich., is pictured circa August 1975. Jimmy Hoffa was last seen standing outside the restaurant on July 30, 1975. (Bettmann Archive via Getty Images, FILE)
Periodic searches for Hoffa's body have always turned up empty, including one in a Detroit lumberyard in 2009; a Roseville, Michigan, driveway in 2012; and a farm in Oakland Township, Michigan, in 2013.

A new film about Hoffa's death and disappearance, "The Irishman," written and directed by Martin Scorsese and starring Al Pacino as the labor leader, premieres at the New York Film Festival this week and will be released on Netflix in November. Robert De Niro stars as Frank Sheeran, the titular character, who reflects on his role in Hoffa's murder. The real Sheeran died in 2003.
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Without reading the book yet (and I will), this book seems to provide, at least at a high level, support to Scott Burnstein’s theory of the Hoffa hit team utilizing Detroit Soldier Carlo Licata’s nearby Bloomfield Hills home as the hit site. And also the theory that recently deceased Detroit Underboss Tony Palazzolo being part of the hit team along with Vito Giacalone.

This author seems to have quite the reputable resume and not some nut rat trying to grasp onto some final fame in the twilight of their life. Looking forward to the read.
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I was hoping Scott would do a book on it. Maybe he is?
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That's really a stupid reason for the FBI not to reveal what ever they now know about the case.
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Freedom of information, give it a few years it’ll be public domain.
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The Chuckie O'Brien part just doesn't add up. Maybe he flipped.
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The book seems to be an attempt to both clear his stepfather's name and to cash in on the Hoffa hype generated by The Irishman. Hey who knows maybe it's legit but it's hard to get excited about this. "Hey some FBI agents told me that my stepfather actually didn't have anything to do with the murder. No I can't tell you their names or the name of the guy who actually did it, but please buy the book anyway". Pass.
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Phillip Moscato Jr. claims that his old man made a deathbed confession and told him where the body is. Supposedly, he is talks with the FBI:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/eric-sh ... ied-killed
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Frank wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:11 am That's really a stupid reason for the FBI not to reveal what ever they now know about the case.
I think it's actually plausible, the feds are fucking weirdos
EYYYY ALL YOU CHOOCHES OUT THERE IT'S THE KID
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Ivan wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:10 pm
Frank wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:11 am That's really a stupid reason for the FBI not to reveal what ever they now know about the case.
I think it's actually plausible, the feds are fucking weirdos
Yes, but wouldn't everyone who was with the FBI back in the first 10 years of the case be dead or retired. What's the big ordeal of suspecting O'Brien of having something to do with the case. He was never charged with anything. I haven't read the book, but I might. The Detroit LCN Family being suspected as having been in charge of the hit is no new news, but very possible.
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Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:06 pm Phillip Moscato Jr. claims that his old man made a deathbed confession and told him where the body is. Supposedly, he is talks with the FBI:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/eric-sh ... ied-killed
Thanks Snakes. So if this turns out to be true, the original suspects did do it. Andretta is still alive??
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Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:06 pm Phillip Moscato Jr. claims that his old man made a deathbed confession and told him where the body is. Supposedly, he is talks with the FBI:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/eric-sh ... ied-killed
Also just looked it up Andretta died Jan 25 2019.
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We all know OJ Simpson killed Hoffa
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Frank wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:49 am
Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:06 pm Phillip Moscato Jr. claims that his old man made a deathbed confession and told him where the body is. Supposedly, he is talks with the FBI:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/eric-sh ... ied-killed
Also just looked it up Andretta died Jan 25 2019.
His brother, allegedly also part of the cleanup crew, is still alive.
EYYYY ALL YOU CHOOCHES OUT THERE IT'S THE KID
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It'd be great if it turned out Hoffa killed himself.

"Investigators have finally discovered Jimmy Hoffa's... suicide note"
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