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Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:57 am
antimafia wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:23 am
Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:26 am Jonathan Massari is not the one who ordered the killings, but Salvatore Scoppa. Journal de Montréal and Radio-Canada are reporting the opposite.
And the updated Montreal Gazette article published last night -- see link below -- suggests that Massari and Scoppa co-ordered the killings.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... ur-arrests
I am told that Scoppa was the "commanditaire", and Massari was charged of the coordination and planification of the murders.
These recent articles, including the ones I have posted, are confusing us all.

In the updated CBC News article to which I've linked below, Guy Lapointe, Directeur des communications et des relations internationales for Sûreté du Québec, "alleges Massari led the conspiracy, along with a man named Salvatore Scoppa, who was himself killed in May."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.5322714
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antimafia wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:52 am
Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:57 am
antimafia wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:23 am
Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:26 am Jonathan Massari is not the one who ordered the killings, but Salvatore Scoppa. Journal de Montréal and Radio-Canada are reporting the opposite.
And the updated Montreal Gazette article published last night -- see link below -- suggests that Massari and Scoppa co-ordered the killings.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... ur-arrests
I am told that Scoppa was the "commanditaire", and Massari was charged of the coordination and planification of the murders.
These recent articles, including the ones I have posted, are confusing us all.

In the updated CBC News article to which I've linked below, Guy Lapointe, Directeur des communications et des relations internationales for Sûreté du Québec, "alleges Massari led the conspiracy, along with a man named Salvatore Scoppa, who was himself killed in May."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.5322714
As I understand it, it must mean that both ordered it
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motorfab wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:54 am
antimafia wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:52 am
Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:57 am
antimafia wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:23 am
Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:26 am Jonathan Massari is not the one who ordered the killings, but Salvatore Scoppa. Journal de Montréal and Radio-Canada are reporting the opposite.
And the updated Montreal Gazette article published last night -- see link below -- suggests that Massari and Scoppa co-ordered the killings.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... ur-arrests
I am told that Scoppa was the "commanditaire", and Massari was charged of the coordination and planification of the murders.
These recent articles, including the ones I have posted, are confusing us all.

In the updated CBC News article to which I've linked below, Guy Lapointe, Directeur des communications et des relations internationales for Sûreté du Québec, "alleges Massari led the conspiracy, along with a man named Salvatore Scoppa, who was himself killed in May."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.5322714
As I understand it, it must mean that both ordered it
Obviously some médias did not catch the nuance, if we look carefully at the chart provided by SQ yesterday.
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There are actually lot of heat within bikers in Montréal area.

Dernière heure: Le trafiquant de stupéfiants et proche des #Hells Angels, Gaétan Sévigny, a été assassiné ce matin devant chez lui, à Terrebonne. Enquête transférée à la Sûreté du Québec

According to Maxime Deland, from QMI Press agency, on Twitter :
Last hour: The drug dealer and close to #Hells Angels, Gaétan Sévigny, was murdered this morning in front of his home in Terrebonne. Investigation transferred to the Sûreté du Québec.
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Laurentian wrote:
antimafia wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:23 am
Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:26 am Jonathan Massari is not the one who ordered the killings, but Salvatore Scoppa. Journal de Montréal and Radio-Canada are reporting the opposite.
And the updated Montreal Gazette article published last night -- see link below -- suggests that Massari and Scoppa co-ordered the killings.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... ur-arrests
I am told that Scoppa was the "commanditaire", and Massari was charged of the coordination and planification of the murders.
Could you elaborate on why they believe its a continuation of the old Calabrians vs. Sicilian conflict? Is there a link between Scoppa and the Violis/Cotronis? It seems to me that this was rather a separate conflict instigated by a bold lunatic on roid rage who felt threatened than an epiloque of the earlier attempted coup.
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Lupara wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:44 am
Laurentian wrote:
antimafia wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:23 am
Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:26 am Jonathan Massari is not the one who ordered the killings, but Salvatore Scoppa. Journal de Montréal and Radio-Canada are reporting the opposite.
And the updated Montreal Gazette article published last night -- see link below -- suggests that Massari and Scoppa co-ordered the killings.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... ur-arrests
I am told that Scoppa was the "commanditaire", and Massari was charged of the coordination and planification of the murders.
Could you elaborate on why they believe its a continuation of the old Calabrians vs. Sicilian conflict? Is there a link between Scoppa and the Violis/Cotronis? It seems to me that this was rather a separate conflict instigated by a bold lunatic on roid rage who felt threatened than an epiloque of the earlier attempted coup.
Now do you see what I was saying?
They NEVER will actually SAY Bonnano, or Buffalo, or what the fuck ever.

It's always Sicilian and Calabrian. And it's always these " clans".

Also, "lunatic on roids" is to me, an oversimplification.
He ran an extensive drug distro, his brother had connections in what, Mexico? So, if they could launder thier own money, they would be in position to call thier own shot, similar to say, Miriarchi.

I can easily see why Whooley wanted him dead, he was probably a DIRECT competitor on the streets, to both the gangs and bikers, and the crews that answer to the Montreal group.
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CabriniGreen wrote:
Lupara wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:44 am
Laurentian wrote:
antimafia wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:23 am
Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:26 am Jonathan Massari is not the one who ordered the killings, but Salvatore Scoppa. Journal de Montréal and Radio-Canada are reporting the opposite.
And the updated Montreal Gazette article published last night -- see link below -- suggests that Massari and Scoppa co-ordered the killings.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... ur-arrests
I am told that Scoppa was the "commanditaire", and Massari was charged of the coordination and planification of the murders.
Could you elaborate on why they believe its a continuation of the old Calabrians vs. Sicilian conflict? Is there a link between Scoppa and the Violis/Cotronis? It seems to me that this was rather a separate conflict instigated by a bold lunatic on roid rage who felt threatened than an epiloque of the earlier attempted coup.
Now do you see what I was saying?
They NEVER will actually SAY Bonnano, or Buffalo, or what the fuck ever.

It's always Sicilian and Calabrian. And it's always these " clans".

Also, "lunatic on roids" is to me, an oversimplification.
He ran an extensive drug distro, his brother had connections in what, Mexico? So, if they could launder thier own money, they would be in position to call thier own shot, similar to say, Miriarchi.

I can easily see why Whooley wanted him dead, he was probably a DIRECT competitor on the streets, to both the gangs and bikers, and the crews that answer to the Montreal group.
With the oversimplifcation I mean somebody who went over his head ordering murders of actual members of the Mafia without following the mob's protocol (that is if he did this without sanction/support). This guy seems to have been Montreal's Joe Gallo.
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Man linked to OC shot dead in terrebonne

Various media reports have identified the victim as Gaetan Sevigny, an associate of the Hells Angels in Quebec.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/man- ... sc=GFT7nzB
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Projet Préméditer : la taupe aurait comploté avec les accusés

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... ccuses.php
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Laurentian wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:34 pm Projet Préméditer : la taupe aurait comploté avec les accusés

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... ccuses.php
Arrestations pour les meurtres de quatre mafieux: le chef des incendies de Saint-Jude parmi les suspects
https://www.journaldequebec.com/2019/10 ... et-a-laval
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Trois mois pour préparer leurs coups

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/ ... es-accuses
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Andrew Scoppa was gunned down this morning.
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Mafia montréalaise: le chef de clan Andrew Scoppa assassiné

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... assine.php
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Laurentian wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:04 am Mafia montréalaise: le chef de clan Andrew Scoppa assassiné

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... assine.php
Un mafieux abattu en plein jour dans l’ouest de Montréal

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/ ... e-montreal
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Will it ever end up there?
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